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Rate the current King's roster, and evaluate them based on the entire year.

Calvin Booth- F , no future on this team

Ike Diogu- D , Had a huge 32 point game recently and is overall starting to play better, we should be able to keep him another year to evaluate him some more

Francisco Garcia- B , He's stepped up his game and continues to improve

Donte Greene- F , He's 6-11 and all he does is shoot, he is raw but needs to improve his entire game

Spencer Hawes- C+ , Exceeded my expectations so far, but needs to get stronger and more physical this off season

Bobby Jackson- D , Hopefully retires soon and moves into the coaching staff, it's hard to watch him some times especially remembering how good he used to be

Kevin Martin- B+ , Would be higher if he played more, needs to get stronger/bigger over the off season because these injuries are killing his career

Rashad McCants- D , Had one good stretch of games, since then he's been horrible,

Andres Nocioni- C , If he could get his shot going he would be rated higher

Cedric Simmons- F , Worthless player, didn't do anything

Kenny Thomas F- , Can't wait until the biggest mistake in King's history is gone

Jason Thompson- B, Impressed me a lot, has the most potential, He just needs time to grow more and could be an all star one day, needs to work on shot blocking

Beno Udrih- D , Meet the second biggest mistake in King's history, Everyone thought after last year he would improve his game, to bad he's decreased and is now considered a horrible contract, nominated for most inconsistent player

Hawes deserves at least a B

Greene deserves better than an F

B-Jax probably deserves something like a C+

Bac2Basics wrote:Hawes deserves at least a B

Greene deserves better than an F

B-Jax probably deserves something like a C+

i agree, but i would drop martin down to a B since he was injured a lot and because he didnt step up when he was given the team. he hasnt been able to lead the team or take over in the clutch. maybe he would be higher if he wasnt expected to be the #1 on the team.

Hawes is a beast. At least a B, maybe B+ or A- if you consider hes only 20 and held his own against yao and shaq.

Hawes has more potential than Thompson.

Noc deserves better IMO.

Greene is an INC- He has had so many pluses and minuses that it is impossible to give him a grade.
Booth, Simmons, Thomas are all F's- Waste's of space.
Diagu is a D. He has had one good game to give him this rank.
Beno is a C-. Terrible contract made high expectations, he simply was average.
Mcants is a C. Too much shooting, not enough talent.
Noc and Jackson are B-. These are the only veteran presences we have, and they really played their hearts out.
Garcia and Thompson are B. Both very solid for us. Thompson blew the expectations out of the water. Garcia was just a great fill in.
Hawes is B+. Showed all-star potential, and he could be amazing.
Martin A-. He was one of our only bright spots. I'm giving him the A range because of what he did while on the court. Injuries could debate his grade lower.

KM44 wrote:Greene is an INC- He has had so many pluses and minuses that it is impossible to give him a grade.
Booth, Simmons, Thomas are all F's- Waste's of space.
Diagu is a D. He has had one good game to give him this rank.
Beno is a C-. Terrible contract made high expectations, he simply was average.
Mcants is a C. Too much shooting, not enough talent.
Noc and Jackson are B-. These are the only veteran presences we have, and they really played their hearts out.
Garcia and Thompson are B. Both very solid for us. Thompson blew the expectations out of the water. Garcia was just a great fill in.
Hawes is B+. Showed all-star potential, and he could be amazing.
Martin A-. He was one of our only bright spots. I'm giving him the A range because of what he did while on the court. Injuries could debate his grade lower.

This seems like a much closer evaluation.

Diogu just moved up the ranks in my book! Forget Griffin, BRING BACK IKE!!! Haha. Seriously though, BRING HIM BACK!

Ike looks like a player who has rested all year playing against dead tired players. He is fighting to play past this season. NOT WORTH THE 4 MILLION NEXT SEASON. Lets just stop with that insanity. He is worst 900K, that is all. Pass on Ike.

murray wrote:Ike looks like a player who has rested all year playing against dead tired players. He is fighting to play past this season. NOT WORTH THE 4 MILLION NEXT SEASON. Lets just stop with that insanity. He is worst 900K, that is all. Pass on Ike.

seconded.

murray wrote:Ike looks like a player who has rested all year playing against dead tired players. He is fighting to play past this season. NOT WORTH THE 4 MILLION NEXT SEASON. Lets just stop with that insanity. He is worst 900K, that is all. Pass on Ike.

You have to give credit where credit is due though, Ike has always shown some offensive talent and that's what he showed here. He has a very good jumper, some nice post moves (up and under, hook shot, etc.), and is pretty skilled overall. He was doing things he can replicate and wasn't really playing out of his mind. Now I don't know if he'll produce like this every night, and if I had to compare him to anyone right now it'd be Zach Randolph (I know, I know) but he certainly showed a nice package of offensive skill. If we don't pick up Griffin, bring this guy back if for nothing more than so he can become the next Zack Randolph and at worst put up empty numbers like him but maybe because of his good attitude he'll become a valuable trade piece.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/sacramento.htm

I'm sorry, but there is no way the Kings say yes to a 4 million dollar option on a player that proven 0 in his career. After 1 or 2 Rashad McCants games everyone was saying the same thing. Kings fans overvalue anyone that does anything for this team (Beno), and that leads to rash decision by managment to sign long term contracts. No times 100 on this.

Maybe not, and I don't think it will come to that but these are the Maloofs we're talking about here, I wouldn't be surprised to see them drop the MLE for 5 years on him! Hahaha. If we don't get or can't sign any FA's why not pick up his QO or at least sign him back to a two year deal with a team option for the 2nd year? We've spent way more and way more unwisely in the past.

To be honest I wouldn't mind seeing both McCants and Diogu back.

I would give Kevin Martin an F! He is one of my favorite players, but he really let this team down. I know his ankle has been hurting all year, but if you are a leader you play through. You lead by example and so far he hasnt dont that.

In retrospect, I'm lowering Martin to a B and raising Thompson to a B+. Chriswebb86, you make a point that he was injured, and that's why I'm lowering my grade for him, because the OP did say "evaluate based on the entire season," but it would be superfluous to give him an F. Martin played well when he was on the court, and with the lack of talent and/or inexperience, you can't expect him to lead the team we had with no help, not a guy in his first year of being the leader.

As for Diagu... I say we deny the extension and hope no one pays him more to test drive him after 2 great games. McCants doesn't have a place on this team. He's a 2, and we already have two of those on our roster for the next five years.

sigh....we as kings fans are sooooooooo used to terrible mediocure talent on this team that if someone does good we want to bring them back! Insane. Our eyes are trained now to horrid subpar talent and it really isnt the norm for us to see this roster achieve greatness with individual play. Hence the McCants rant -- about him being able to make Kmart expendable.

If K9 went out and played well for 3 games, some of us would be saying "maybe he can return to be a veteran player and mentor JT"....bull crap.

We need to take our time and think before we speak, because this team is soooo crafty they give off the best illusions nearing down to contract extentions ala Beno now Ike...next season will be K9.

all we need is a star pg and we are back on top.

take paul off the hornets and kings are better.

if you look at the jazz when boozer was injured, williams carried the team. without williams, jazz would be wose than the kings.

we have talent, just no one to lead them.

a pg would put martin at the top 5 scorers for sure, hawes and thompson would be even more porductive. even greene could see strides if he is constantly set up for easy points.

All we need is a superstar. If you put Lebron or Wade or Kobe on this team and we'd instantly be in the playoffs.

murray wrote:Ike looks like a player who has rested all year playing against dead tired players. He is fighting to play past this season. NOT WORTH THE 4 MILLION NEXT SEASON. Lets just stop with that insanity. He is worst 900K, that is all. Pass on Ike.

You see that's the quandary here. He's DEFINITELY worth bring back, as I think his game compliments both Hawes and Thompson perfectly, HOWEVER, he's TOTALLY not worth the 4 million QO that it would take to retain him. If we let that go though, there could be a team willing to throw their LLE at him and off he goes. So it's stinks. Is it possible to offer him an extension NOT based on the QO? Something like a 3 year deal worth 6 million with a player option on the 3rd year. That way we can assess him further, he keeps his bird rights and some flexibility to get out earlier to cash in if he out performs his contract?

I would agree to a 3 year 6 million contract. But nothing more.

Smills91 wrote:

murray wrote:Ike looks like a player who has rested all year playing against dead tired players. He is fighting to play past this season. NOT WORTH THE 4 MILLION NEXT SEASON. Lets just stop with that insanity. He is worst 900K, that is all. Pass on Ike.

You see that's the quandary here. He's DEFINITELY worth bring back, as I think his game compliments both Hawes and Thompson perfectly, HOWEVER, he's TOTALLY not worth the 4 million QO that it would take to retain him. If we let that go though, there could be a team willing to throw their LLE at him and off he goes. So it's stinks. Is it possible to offer him an extension NOT based on the QO? Something like a 3 year deal worth 6 million with a player option on the 3rd year. That way we can assess him further, he keeps his bird rights and some flexibility to get out earlier to cash in if he out performs his contract?

WHY DO WE HAVE TO SIGN SOMEONE!!!!!!!!!!


When was the last time a player Petrie signed "performed" his contract?

Beno
Garcia
Salmons
Moore
Shareef
Jamal Sampson
that Luke guy
Ostertag
....


STOP SIGNING MEDIOCRE PLAYERS!!!!