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Why not? If Rubio/Thabeet/Griffin are off the board? Why not?

I've seen him up close the past two years and he's doesn't have any glaring weakness in his game. He's an EXCELLENT rebounder, a good ball handler and passer. He can shoot it and could be the answer for us at the 3 spot. We need a good rebounder at that spot and he has the potential to be a star. Maybe trade 4/23 with the Wolves for 6/18.

Grab Clarke at 6 and one of Flynn, Lawson, Maynor or Teague at 18 for our PG spot, Suton at #31
Keep Diogu at the QO's. Sign an undrafted FA PG like LeVance Fields

C: Hawes, Suton(#31)
PF: Thompson, Diogu, Thomas
SF: Clarke(#6), Nocioni, Greene
SG: Martin, Garcia
PG: Udrih, Maynor(#18), Fields

Look for John Wall in 2010.

Not opposed too it, given the right situation.

If we traded down to 9 at toronoto or 12 with charlotte, I wouldn't mind taking Clark given derozan and evans are off the board.

#4 and #31 for Augustine and #12.

Augustine/Beno
Martin/Garcia
Noc/Clark
Thompson/Blair at 23?
Hawes/Anderson FA?

I think you are giving up on Donte far to easily just like Kenny Natt like we would have came in last if Donte played more minutes. Again look at the stud Rashard Lewis is now after developing who both he and Hedo share the 3/4 and Howard is the 5. Is Clark a lockdown defender who can shut down the Durants, Melo's, and Lebron's? Not any more than Greene. We basically have a similar 3/4/5 as Orlando only the roles are twisted, JT is really the best rebounder and Hawes and Greene are the scorers. I think our lineup when matured in a few years will be as good, Noc can start until Green is ready.

I can promise you Petrie and Maloofs are shooting for the playoffs this year and have no interest in making the lottery again. We were nearly .500 on the way down with Beno, Martin, Artest, Miller, and Moore under Theus we can certainly be close to that next year on the way back up with a solid coach and stud PG, Martin, Noc, JT, Hawes.

He reminds me of Lamar Odom in many ways. He would have to add some mass to his fram though..

UKF wrote:He reminds me of Lamar Odom in many ways. He would have to add some mass to his fram though..

I like the Danny Granger comparsion better than Odom, honestly. I go to UofL. I'm pretty familiar with his game. He's just a TREMENDOUS rebounder, something we've always needed to improve. His ability to pass, shoot and score make him a very Petrie-esque player...and he's probably the only SF prospect in this draft with star potential. He very well could be like Granger in that he slides, but I kinda think he'll go in that 6-12 range, and probably closer to 6 than 12.

Yeah, my only concern is that I really can't decide what position he is. There is really no such thing as somebody that can start full time at SF or PF and have a team be championship-caliber in both situations, IMO. There are the rare players that start at SF and move to PF later on. If Clark adds another 15-20 lbs. to his frame, I think he's a nice perimeter-oriented PF at the next level a la Odom.

mitchweber wrote:Yeah, my only concern is that I really can't decide what position he is. There is really no such thing as somebody that can start full time at SF or PF and have a team be championship-caliber in both situations, IMO. There are the rare players that start at SF and move to PF later on. If Clark adds another 15-20 lbs. to his frame, I think he's a nice perimeter-oriented PF at the next level a la Odom.

You answered your own question here.

I think he's a mismatch at either position, but would prefer his game at the 3, rather than the 4. I dunno if Clarke is the FIRST OPTION we're desiring, but I think he can be a 2nd or third option.

It's becoming more and more apparent to me that the Kings are buillding a well-balanced team with no clear cut 1st option a la LeBron, Wade, Melo etc.

Odom can not start at SF right now and play most of his minutes there on a successful team. The same could have been said for him at PF earlier in his career. He moved definitively from one to the other.

Smills ur spot on with that last post! I have the same feeling as well. If we can get a go to all star caliber playing, like Bosh or Boozer we'd be in great shape. Then ONLY then i'd trade down for Clarke because i agree he is NBA ready and the reward with him will be greater down the road!

Can you imagine either of these lineups

Hawes
Bosh
Clark
Martin
Teague

or

Hawes
Boozer
Noc
Martin
Evans

What ever it is we need to keep building from the draft. No need to rush things now, because Lakers have another 2 years left in them, Orlando will be there for about 3 yrs out of that 2, and so will Portland.

So i figure, we have about 3-5 more years to get this right to perfection really. I mean each year we'd be getting better and better going higher and higher into the PO's, but I think to being an elite championship team, 5 years is a solid mark for us

KM44 wrote:If we traded down to 9 at toronoto or 12 with charlotte, I wouldn't mind taking Clark given derozan and evans are off the board.

#4 and #31 for Augustine and #12.

Augustine/Beno
Martin/Garcia
Noc/Clark
Thompson/Blair at 23?
Hawes/Anderson FA?

i'd like that

All depends on workouts/petrie of course, but my list of players that interest me (assuming Griffin/Rubio/Thabeet)

1) Holiday
2) DeRozan
3) Clark

^Ditto. That would be a good lineup and I like Augustine.

I think Greene and Clark could coexist nicely. I agree with the comparrisons everyone has mentioned...basically Greene=R. Lewis & Clark=Odom.

Both players would bring something different, Greene would be the more polished scorer who hits 3's and can drive in ala Lewis. Clark, I'm not sure on, but if he can beef up and play the 3 and 4 (at times), be a big rebounder, shot blocker, it would be awesome.

The more I watch the playoffs this year, I see the need to have a long frontline. The frontline of Orlando with Hedo, Lewis and Howard has caused fits. The same goes for LA, with Bynum, Gasol and Odom. It causes alot of mismatches and problems for the opposing team, on both sides of the ball.

Not a bad way to go at all IMO...

Smills91 wrote:
I like the Danny Granger comparsion better than Odom, honestly. I go to UofL. I'm pretty familiar with his game. He's just a TREMENDOUS rebounder, something we've always needed to improve. His ability to pass, shoot and score make him a very Petrie-esque player...and he's probably the only SF prospect in this draft with star potential. He very well could be like Granger in that he slides, but I kinda think he'll go in that 6-12 range, and probably closer to 6 than 12.

I've see Clark play for the last couple of seasons and the Odom comparison is by far the most accurate. He doesn't have the individual scoring and overall perimeter ability of Danny Granger. I still see Clark as a PF in the NBA, one that will be able to switch the pick and roll better than any big in the league.

Yeah, I'm liking the idea of trading down for Clarke a lot. I dunno how low he'll go though. I wonder if he slips past the Nets at 11?

Smills91 wrote:

UKF wrote:He reminds me of Lamar Odom in many ways. He would have to add some mass to his fram though..

I like the Danny Granger comparsion better than Odom, honestly. I go to UofL. I'm pretty familiar with his game. He's just a TREMENDOUS rebounder, something we've always needed to improve. His ability to pass, shoot and score make him a very Petrie-esque player...and he's probably the only SF prospect in this draft with star potential. He very well could be like Granger in that he slides, but I kinda think he'll go in that 6-12 range, and probably closer to 6 than 12.

I like that comparison better actually. I've seen him play 3 or 4 games this year but if he could emerge in this league and become a Danny Granger kind of player Kevin Martin and him could benefit from each other greatly. KMart and Clark would be two very important pieces to our playoff puzzle if we could bring in that leader/star kind of player. For us to draft Clark, I think we would have to trade back a few spots, but by late June I wouldn't be surprised if he got up there in some mocks.

UKF wrote:

Smills91 wrote:

UKF wrote:He reminds me of Lamar Odom in many ways. He would have to add some mass to his fram though..

I like the Danny Granger comparsion better than Odom, honestly. I go to UofL. I'm pretty familiar with his game. He's just a TREMENDOUS rebounder, something we've always needed to improve. His ability to pass, shoot and score make him a very Petrie-esque player...and he's probably the only SF prospect in this draft with star potential. He very well could be like Granger in that he slides, but I kinda think he'll go in that 6-12 range, and probably closer to 6 than 12.

I like that comparison better actually. I've seen him play 3 or 4 games this year but if he could emerge in this league and become a Danny Granger kind of player Kevin Martin and him could benefit from each other greatly. KMart and Clark would be two very important pieces to our playoff puzzle if we could bring in that leader/star kind of player. For us to draft Clark, I think we would have to trade back a few spots, but by late June I wouldn't be surprised if he got up there in some mocks.

I'd LOVE to come out of this draft with both Clarke and Flynn or Augustin if we can't get Rubio.

I think we could trade back in order to trade up. Trade back 4/23 for 6/18 so the Wolves can nab Harden away from the Wizards. Then use 31/18 to move up into that 10-13 range to nab Flynn

OR...

Trade back with the Bobcats and give 4/23 for Augustin/12. Nab Clarke at 12 and have a nice roster set.

C: Hawes
PF: Thompson, Thomas
SF: Clarke, Nocioni, Greene
SG: Martin, Garcia
PG: Flynn/Augustin, Beno

With additional picks/fa's to fill out the roster.