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Tyson Chandler

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:34 pm
by KM44
So we have been going round and round talking about who would fit, and I seriously think that Chandler could be an option. If we offered Thomas and TPE, I would not be surprised if we could get him and maybe even some extra incentive. Chandler is a shotblocker, rebounder, he's physical with screens and he can finish around the basket. I know there are health concerns, but if we're just giving up thomas, I feel like we could take the risk. What are your thoughts?

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:40 pm
by down_el_road
i think its a possiblity

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 10:48 pm
by SacKingZZZ
I like Chandler but he IMO is not as valuable as some believe he is. I remember a few years ago people were all over his nuts thinking he was going to blow up into a legit all-star player, I knew better and still know better. He is a very good fit on paper but that toe problem, the one that concerned the Thunder enough to stay away, didn't just go away on it's own.

He's the type of player you add when you know who you're top options are otherwise. We aren't there yet.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:10 pm
by Bac2Basics
If Chandler is comfortable being a rotation player, I say make a play for him, but I wouldn't go out of my way focusing on him.

And even though this would be a cost cutting move by the Hornets, I still think there may be a small chance to get Beno sent in that deal.

If the deal was
Tyson Chandler & Antonio Daniels
for
Kenny Thomas, Beno Udrih & Donte Greene

Kings take on roughly $2.5 million more than they send out, pure cap space for New Orleans, which is their primary purpose. Additionally with Kenny & Donte expiring at the end of the season, that's over $9+ million that they can have off the books by this time next year. (The deal also works w/o Donte, so that would be New Orleans option whether or not they wanted him)

Additionally, Beno would be a better backup PG behind Chris Paul than anyone that the Hornets currently have.

Kings would have a nice 3 man rotation with Chandler, Thompson & Hawes in the post and still get to keep some expiring money in the form of Antonio Daniels.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:21 pm
by KM44
^That was the exact offer I was thinking about making, but I was afraid that the hornets would say, "wait, I thought we were cutting costs." If you are correct in saying that we would be taking on more money, I'm sure that the hornets would at least consider the offer.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:32 pm
by Nicky Nix Nook
Now that Gortat is gone, Marvin is probably not being signed, Chandler is my number 1 target...honestly not happening though. It's too bad Im a pretty big Tyson fan and I think he'd do great. Maybe even start him move Spencer to the 4, bring Thompson off the bench. That would be awesome IMO.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:38 pm
by ICMTM
The Kings won't pay for Chandler. He's not versatile enough.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2009 11:49 pm
by KM44
Nicky Nix Nook wrote:Now that Gortat is gone, Marvin is probably not being signed, Chandler is my number 1 target...honestly not happening though. It's too bad Im a pretty big Tyson fan and I think he'd do great. Maybe even start him move Spencer to the 4, bring Thompson off the bench. That would be awesome IMO.


Lets not get carried away now. If we got chandler, it wouldn't be to move thompson to the bench, it would to help add size when we needed it. Yes, we could play both spencer and chandler next to each other, but I don't see us doing that long-term, nor would I want us to.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Sat Jul 4, 2009 1:33 am
by RIPskaterdude
No thanks. It doesn't make sense to pay that kind of $$$ for a back up C....especially one that has had injury concerns recently.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Sat Jul 4, 2009 3:11 am
by cdt3
They won't take Beno since the drafted Collison and traded Bobby Jackson to save money last year.
If we sign Diogu for offense off the bench it means no Chandler type as the 3rd big. It is not as big a gamble as Shareef because Tyson is only signed for 1 year.

Petrie just has to figure who he wants to be his big off the bench. Do we need an additional shot blocker like Chandler off the bench or a guy like Diogu? In a league full of Duncan's and Gasol's and Howard's Chandler is very effective but injury prone will he be. But he may get more rest here because we are deeper in bigs if he does get injured and doesn't have to hurry back.

After Hedo signed, the next best veteran addition would be Chandler.

I think one year would be worth going after Chandler as a 3rd big maybe even move JT to the SF for 10min a game at times against Laker/Portland front lines. That is a worth while gamble for a close to $9mil expiring contract.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Sat Jul 4, 2009 3:27 am
by Smills91
I'd rather chase Boozer.

1) He's better
2) He's gives us more flexibility(expiring)
3) He can relegate Martin to second fiddle status(which is awesome).

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Sat Jul 4, 2009 5:49 am
by dub010
I am a huge Tyson Chandler fan, however I dont see any reason to bring in another big that will want 25-35 minutes of PT a night, we need Spencer and JT on the floor as much as possible to keep developing him.

If we want to upgrade it needs to be at SF thats really the only position where I feel like we dont have our long term guy.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Sat Jul 4, 2009 9:50 am
by KF10
He will impede Hawes/Thompson's development. I think those two players are very significant of how the Kings franchise outlook would look like in 5-10 years not just Kevin Martin. That is why Tyson isn't really a option. He needs a creator to be optimized and we don't have that. Plus his injury woes should cause concern to the Kings.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2009 7:50 am
by DirtyDez

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2009 10:58 am
by Smills91
kingsfan10 wrote:He will impede Hawes/Thompson's development. I think those two players are very significant of how the Kings franchise outlook would look like in 5-10 years not just Kevin Martin. That is why Tyson isn't really a option. He needs a creator to be optimized and we don't have that. Plus his injury woes should cause concern to the Kings.


I don't care WHO that third big is, adding another quality big man will NOT impede Hawes/Thompson

There are 96 minutes at the 4/5. JT can swing between the two just fine. That lives 32 minutes on average between the three. JT and HAwes STILL have a knack for getting into foul trouble. I truly hope we add a capable 3rd big and even a 4th.

Foul trouble, not another big is what will truly 'impede' their development.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2009 4:43 pm
by OGSactownballer
I think that if you can add a shotblocker/rebounder (which we lack) of Chandler's ability then you do it. There are plenty of big minutes to go around and a little less lessens the wear and tear on each of them anyway.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2009 6:33 pm
by Smills91
OGSactownballer wrote:I think that if you can add a shotblocker/rebounder (which we lack) of Chandler's ability then you do it. There are plenty of big minutes to go around and a little less lessens the wear and tear on each of them anyway.


I'll be honest, as far as shotblocking in concerned Hawes > Chandler. He's a good rebounder, but he's VERY underwhelming as a shot blocker.

Re: Tyson Chandler

Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2009 7:27 pm
by OGSactownballer
Where his strength in shotblocking lies is his length off the ball. If you remember that was the way CWebb averaged nearly a block and a half a night. It was not the face-up on his own man, it was the weakside help block that he got. Tyson is very similar to this. If you watch him play, he can hold his own man fine (because of size/length), but he has very good timing to be the help defender and weakside shotblocker - which is a totally different thing than playing center field under the basket or just blocking your own man straight up.

Honestly, this is the thing that we HAVE been missing for several years now since CWebb went down and we were no long adding a third big in the mode of a Keon Clark/Scott Pollard to do this kind of dirty work. It's the same role that McDyess, Gortat, and others like them play. These guys CAN start when needed, but they are far more valuble as the third big to go with a three big lineup or spell your starters when they need to save energy (playoffs/tough matchups) or have early foul trouble.

You have to think back to when we were contending. Depth is one of the keys to being able to contend, and it is something we are severely lacking right now. The will be plenty of time for Spencer and Jason to develop, and bringing in another big who has a different and complimentary skill set who can allow them to develop unforced is a GOOD thing, not a detriment. In addition, you set up for future free agency in the year that Chandler expires either in a trade or release.