Predict minutes for Kings players

[jazzfan1971]

What do you think your rotation/minutes will look like this year?

[SacKingZZZ]

hmmmm....with summer not over yet?

Evans: 34 mpg
Beno: 15 mpg
Sergio: 2 mpg
Martin: 38 mpg
Garcia: 26 mpg
Nocioni: 32 mpg
Greene: 12 mpg
Casspi: 6 mpg
Thompson: 29 mpg
May: 24 mpg
Hawes: 32 mpg
Brockman: 3 mpg
Thomas: 1.5 mpg

[dozencousins]

What a wasted thread this is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KM44]

PG: Evans-30/Beno-10/Sergio-8
SG: Martin-38/Garcia-7/Evans-3
SF: Nocioni-28/Garcia-14/Greene-4/Casspi-2
PF: Thompson-26/May-14/Greene-4/Brockman-4
C: Hawes-35/Thompson-10/Brockman-3

Barring a signing of another center, I think that's how things are going to play out.

[KF10]

To be honest, I'm not too sure of a definite projection of the minutes/rotation for the Kings. That is partly due to being still very early in the offseason, so we can't make an accurate assessments of the team structure.

People have Evans playing 30+ minutes, even though Westphal has clearly said nothing is definite on that position. Beno can still start. (but in my opinion, Evans will overtake Beno for the starting job within the year. Probably as early as the first month in the season) Also, people has Jon Brockman on the roster. I'm pretty sure the Kings didn't signed him just yet. Also barring other signings or transactions, it is still unpredictable to project.

Well, that is my opinion on this issue.

[KM44]

To be honest, I'm not too sure of a definite projection of the minutes/rotation for the Kings. That is partly due to being still very early in the offseason, so we can't make an accurate assessments of the team structure.

People have Evans playing 30+ minutes, even though Westphal has clearly said nothing is definite on that position. Beno can still start. (but in my opinion, Evans will overtake Beno for the starting job within the year. Probably as early as the first month in the season) Also, people has Jon Brockman on the roster. I'm pretty sure the Kings didn't signed him just yet. Also barring other signings or transactions, it is still unpredictable to project.

Well, that is my opinion on this issue.

That's more of a hoping than an actual prediction. I should have said how I HOPE the kings minutes will play out, not how I think they will

[KF10]

That's more of a hoping than an actual prediction. I should have said how I HOPE the kings minutes will play out, not how I think they will

Oh, it's not a big deal haha

I kind of misunderstood of jazzfan1971's initial post. I misinterpreted as what is the rotation/minutes for the Kings, meaning what is the 100% rotation/minutes are but he clearly stated what do you think of the Kings rotation/minutes are, meaning your opinion.

[deNIEd]

PG: T. Evans (19), B. Udrih (26), S. Rodriguez (3)
SG: K. Martin (38), F. Garcia (4), T. Evans (6)
SF: A. Nocioni (14), F. Garcia (21), D. Greene (8), O. Casspri (5)
PF: J. Thompson (18), A. Nocioni (16), D. Greene (10), J. Brockman (4)
C : S. Hawes (33), J. Thompson (12), J. Brockman (3)

The day Beno stops playing, is the day Beno becomes 100% untradable and Kenny Thomas 2.0

[SacKingZZZ]

To be honest, I'm not too sure of a definite projection of the minutes/rotation for the Kings. That is partly due to being still very early in the offseason, so we can't make an accurate assessments of the team structure.

People have Evans playing 30+ minutes, even though Westphal has clearly said nothing is definite on that position. Beno can still start. (but in my opinion, Evans will overtake Beno for the starting job within the year. Probably as early as the first month in the season) Also, people has Jon Brockman on the roster. I'm pretty sure the Kings didn't signed him just yet. Also barring other signings or transactions, it is still unpredictable to project.

Well, that is my opinion on this issue.

And 'ol Loose Lips Maloof said they had talked about it and Evans starts from day one. While I've been a proponent of Beno starting for value reasons alone, I think playing a top young player on a crappy team might have finally sunk in and it will happen. Depends on Westphal, does he want to try and win now, or build a winner??? Heck, maybe they are one and the same.

As for Brockman that would be pretty crappy if they didn't sign him. If true we traded for a 3rd string PG at the price tag of 2 million and traded a near first rounder for NOTHING. Could have had Sam Young or Dejuan Blair. If Taylor Griffin can get signed, us leaving Brockman hanging would just be ridiculous. Of course, that might be the theme of this summer.

[KF10]

And 'ol Loose Lips Maloof said they had talked about it and Evans starts from day one. While I've been a proponent of Beno starting for value reasons alone, I think playing a top young player on a crappy team might have finally sunk in and it will happen. Depends on Westphal, does he want to try and win now, or build a winner??? Heck, maybe they are one and the same.

You are correct. Gavin did said that in the broadcast during a summer league game. But Westphal didn't agree with that notion, well not yet though. Take a look:

Paul Westphal could only chuckle when asked about Kings co-owner Gavin Maloof's statement during the Web cast of Monday's NBA Summer League game that rookie Tyreke Evans would be the starting point guard "as soon as he steps on the court."

Not so fast. Evans will be a big part of the Kings' plans this coming season. Westphal, however, hasn't committed to hand the team over to the prized rookie from Memphis.

"I read that too," Westphal said. "I think maybe Gavin might have gotten it mixed up with the regular season and summer league. … I haven't made any pronouncement like that."

http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/2030161.html

But he did not dismiss the notion though. He could see Evans being starter.

As for Brockman that would be pretty crappy if they didn't sign him. If true we traded for a 3rd string PG at the price tag of 2 million and traded a near first rounder for NOTHING. Could have had Sam Young or Dejuan Blair. If Taylor Griffin can get signed, us leaving Brockman hanging would just be ridiculous. Of course, that might be the theme of this summer.

Well, lets be honest here, Brockman wouldn't receive any significant minutes behind Thompson, Hawes and May. (And the possibility of playing Greene at the power forward i.e. spot minutes)

It wouldn't be a huge deal if we let Brockman go or signed with us regardless.

[RoyalCourtJestr]

When you have a new, young 'star', you need him to start from day one so he can start immediately working with the top tier of his team. When you have a new coach, you need him to be working especially hard with his key player, ESPECIALLY if that player is his floor leader.

There is not a single reason why Beno should start - he should get enough minutes that he can get respectible stats and oppurtunities to show other teams that they should trade for him, but he shouldn't be starting over Evans for any reason.

[Smills91]

C: Hawes 32 minutes, Thompson 18 minutes
PF: Thompson 14 minutes, May 20 minutes, Nocioni 14 minutes
Nocioni 14 minutes, Garcia 24 minutes, Greene 10 minutes
Martin 34 minutes, Evans 8 minutes, Garcia 6 minutes
PG: Evans 22 minutes, Beno 26 minutes

I see Casspi, Brockman, and Rodriguez getting spot minutes with foul trouble and/or match-up issues. Of course, injuries change everything. But this is our best 8-9 man rotation

[SacKingZZZ]

You are correct. Gavin did said that in the broadcast during a summer league game. But Westphal didn't agree with that notion, well not yet though. Take a look:

Paul Westphal could only chuckle when asked about Kings co-owner Gavin Maloof's statement during the Web cast of Monday's NBA Summer League game that rookie Tyreke Evans would be the starting point guard "as soon as he steps on the court."

Not so fast. Evans will be a big part of the Kings' plans this coming season. Westphal, however, hasn't committed to hand the team over to the prized rookie from Memphis.

"I read that too," Westphal said. "I think maybe Gavin might have gotten it mixed up with the regular season and summer league. … I haven't made any pronouncement like that."

http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/2030161.html

But he did not dismiss the notion though. He could see Evans being starter.

As for Brockman that would be pretty crappy if they didn't sign him. If true we traded for a 3rd string PG at the price tag of 2 million and traded a near first rounder for NOTHING. Could have had Sam Young or Dejuan Blair. If Taylor Griffin can get signed, us leaving Brockman hanging would just be ridiculous. Of course, that might be the theme of this summer.

Well, lets be honest here, Brockman wouldn't receive any significant minutes behind Thompson, Hawes and May. (And the possibility of playing Greene at the power forward i.e. spot minutes)

It wouldn't be a huge deal if we let Brockman go or signed with us regardless.

Yes, I remember that article, and that's exactly the kind of PC thing I would expect a coach to say. Unfortunately for him our owners don't have an off button.

I personally feel he'll be signed before the deadline to sign a tender, but there is no other way to look at it if Brockman isn't a part of the future as a prospect let alone signed. 2 million in cap space wasted and as I said, missed out on some absolute steals talent wise, bad moves, very bad moves. I think if there was a year or a team where a player like Brockman could get some significant minutes here or there, it's this one.

[cdt3]

Minutes this early is tough but we have 2 more months until the season starts. What else can you talk about?

C: Hawes 34/May 6/Brockman 8
PF: JT 34/May 6/Greene 8
SF: Noc 24/Garcia 12/Greene 8
SG: KMart 34/Garcia 6/Rod 6
PG: Evans 30/Beno 18

[KF10]

I personally feel he'll be signed before the deadline to sign a tender, but there is no other way to look at it if Brockman isn't a part of the future as a prospect let alone signed. 2 million in cap space wasted and as I said, missed out on some absolute steals talent wise, bad moves, very bad moves. I think if there was a year or a team where a player like Brockman could get some significant minutes here or there, it's this one.

I wouldn't say it is a 2 million in cap space wasted. S-Rod is one of those low risk and high reward kind of move. He still has potential and still pretty young. Well, that is how I see with him.

And about Brockman. How is he going to get significant minutes? He isn't going to beat out Thompson or Hawes (or even May) in minutes. He is going to get 7-10 minutes at the most. And that isn't significant.

[Smills91]

Brockman ABSOLUTELY gets a guaranteed contract before training camp. The guy's a hoss! PW and the Maloofs have just RAVED about him. He's not signed, YET, because it allows for further options(namely sessions) until then. There's no rush, he's not going anywhere. He'll be signed and on our roster come Oct. 28th, I'd bet my bottom dollar on that.

[SacKingZZZ]

I wouldn't say it is a 2 million in cap space wasted. S-Rod is one of those low risk and high reward kind of move. He still has potential and still pretty young. Well, that is how I see with him.

And about Brockman. How is he going to get significant minutes? He isn't going to beat out Thompson or Hawes (or even May) in minutes. He is going to get 7-10 minutes at the most. And that isn't significant.

Yeah but if he NEVER PLAYS we'll never see it. He's 3rd PG, and a 3rd PG that can't swing to SG. Yeah, he's pretty much doomed as far as minutes unless an injury comes or they send Beno off to Kenny Thomas land.

I was saying there might be a time where due to whatever circumstance on a given night Brockman could be 3rd big since we only have 4 to begin with. That means he could very well get time at either PF or C, and since he probably can play with any of May, Thompson, Greene, or Hawes it could help his cause more than a guy stuck at one position with two guys in front of him. Rather pay a 4th big minimum money than a 3rd PG 2 million in a year where we had cap space myself. Then again, Sergio could get some time in the same fashion, but I would bet on our 4th big seeing a 30 minute night here or there over our 3rd PG since Evans, Beno, and Garcia will all see time there most likely.

Oh and I should add, Brockman is at least the kind of player that can get you some production in limited minutes. He's the type that has the potential to get you 8 rebounds in 8 minutes on some nights. Those are the kind of players you can play in that role.

[KF10]

Brockman ABSOLUTELY gets a guaranteed contract before training camp. The guy's a hoss! PW and the Maloofs have just RAVED about him. He's not signed, YET, because it allows for further options(namely sessions) until then. There's no rush, he's not going anywhere. He'll be signed and on our roster come Oct. 28th, I'd bet my bottom dollar on that.

Yeah, I would like to see Brockman again. He brings rebounding and toughness around the basket. Hopefully, the Kings are not allergic to that haha.

[KF10]

Yeah but if he NEVER PLAYS we'll never see it. He's 3rd PG, and a 3rd PG that can't swing to SG. Yeah, he's pretty much doomed as far as minutes unless an injury comes or they send Beno off to Kenny Thomas land.

Well, he isn't "doomed" in minutes in my opinion. I can see him play much more minutes if we decided to place Evans at the point guard spot permanently. Which I think will come pretty soon into the season.

And you never know, Rodriguez can be a potential trading chip for us. Probably a trade deadline deal along with Thomas? You never know.

The point is I would not say it is a wasted $2 million in cap space because that is premature to say at this stage of the season (well off season).

I was saying there might be a time where due to whatever circumstance on a given night Brockman could be 3rd big since we only have 4 to begin with. That means he could very well get time at either PF or C, and since he probably can play with any of May, Thompson, Greene, or Hawes it could help his cause more than a guy stuck at one position with two guys in front of him. Rather pay a 4th big minimum money than a 3rd PG 2 million in a year where we had cap space myself. Then again, Sergio could get some time in the same fashion, but I would bet on our 4th big seeing a 30 minute night here or there over our 3rd PG since Evans, Beno, and Garcia will all see time there most likely.

Ok. My mistake. I thought you meant something else.

Oh and I should add, Brockman is at least the kind of player that can get you some production in limited minutes. He's the type that has the potential to get you 8 rebounds in 8 minutes on some nights. Those are the kind of players you can play in that role.

I agree.

[Norbit]

Do you some of you really believe may is gonna play 20-24 mpg? Don't know if its just me but i find that amusing and very doubtful.