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So I saw the wiretap story about the T-wolves possibly going after Gay because he's going to be a restricted FA this next season... And with me being the ever pursuing filler of our SF position, I thought about bringing him up on these boards.

Would he be someone worth pursuing for the kings? Would his poor defense be too terrible to put up with next to Martin? Would he be worth giving a super long contract?

Personally, I wouldn't mind doing a S&T at the end of next summer with Gay and sending Noc to a third team and pair him with something else. I personally wouldn't mind sending away thompson if we get a high enough pick to nab Favors, Davis, Monroe ect... I would prefer to keep him though, cause imagine a world...

Evans/Beno
Martin/Garcia/Evans
Gay/Greene/Casspi
Favors?/Thompson
Hawes/Thompson

I'm sorry, but I need to finish up this post cause I have to clean myself up after looking at that lineup...

Count me in. Trade Thompson and K9 right now for Gay and Jaric and get one of the number of solid pf prospects in the upcoming draft. DO IT! Let noci play the pf and play run and gun until we draft monroe/davis/favors/etc. Im in...

Gay would be a terrible fit here..we need a 3pt threat at the 3 who can also play some defense...I rather see Casspi pan out first than overbid/pay for Gay

sd_kingsfan wrote:Count me in. Trade Thompson and K9 right now for Gay and Jaric and get one of the number of solid pf prospects in the upcoming draft. DO IT! Let noci play the pf and play run and gun until we draft monroe/davis/favors/etc. Im in...

That would be soo much fun to watch!!

How many points can a #5 option on a team score also? That is why Nocioni and Garcia are still here because they hit a high percentage of 3ptrs and FTs. We also have Greene maturing still. The last combo big guy Paul Westphal coached was a guy named Rashard Lewis who improved from 5pts his rookie year to 20 pts his 4th. Casspi is supposedly like a bigger Nocioni so we will see how good a defender he can be which is needed here.

I expect 15+ out of Hawes, Evans, and Thompson. 20+ out of Martin. 10+ out of Noc, Garcia, and Greene (maybe even Beno). Before we drafted Evans maybe we trade for a dominate scorer at the 3 but Evans is our dominant guy now.


Rememeber Hedo or Peja or Wallace. Patience Kings fans! Let's see what we have now.

Gay is a chucker/ballhog almost on Corey Maggette status. Also a terrible defender and terrible basketball IQ.

"Uh hey guys hows it goin? Im Rudy gay, oh hold on let me just jack up 12 3's and hit 3 of them, whats that? You want me to play defence? Is that german for something? Let me just go attempt rediculous dunks that never work and the hoist another 7 3's only to hit 1 of them. Games over and we lost hmmmmm,let me see that stat sheet(grabs the stat sheet)my team had just 4 assist and they were all from KENNY THOMAS. And apparently i took 63 of my teams 71 shots, well theres always tomorrow i mean we are playing the clippers."

This is what it would look like if Rudy Gay was a King.

down_el_road wrote:"Uh hey guys hows it goin? Im Rudy gay, oh hold on let me just jack up 12 3's and hit 3 of them, whats that? You want me to play defence? Is that german for something? Let me just go attempt rediculous dunks that never work and the hoist another 7 3's only to hit 1 of them. Games over and we lost hmmmmm,let me see that stat sheet(grabs the stat sheet)my team had just 4 assist and they were all from KENNY THOMAS. And apparently i took 63 of my teams 71 shots, well theres always tomorrow i mean we are playing the clippers."

This is what it would look like if Rudy Gay was a King.

Down_el_road- to be fair he shot 45% on 16 shots a game, and only attempted 3 three a game as well (and made 35% of those).

Plus averaging almost a block a game and 1.2 steals is not that horrible either. Hell those are Garcias numbers almost exactly and many people consider him a defense guy. He also had a higher FG percentage and jacked up less 3's per game than cisco.

Lets not bash the guy just because you dont like him. Lets be realistic on the evaluation of the guy. I see a 23 year old with good size and excellent athleticism. This guy is the real deal and will become more valuable as less talented small forwards join the league.

KM44 wrote:So I saw the wiretap story about the T-wolves possibly going after Gay because he's going to be a restricted FA this next season... And with me being the ever pursuing filler of our SF position, I thought about bringing him up on these boards.

Would he be someone worth pursuing for the kings? Would his poor defense be too terrible to put up with next to Martin? Would he be worth giving a super long contract?

Personally, I wouldn't mind doing a S&T at the end of next summer with Gay and sending Noc to a third team and pair him with something else. I personally wouldn't mind sending away thompson if we get a high enough pick to nab Favors, Davis, Monroe ect... I would prefer to keep him though, cause imagine a world...

Evans/Beno
Martin/Garcia/Evans
Gay/Greene/Casspi
Favors?/Thompson
Hawes/Thompson

I'm sorry, but I need to finish up this post cause I have to clean myself up after looking at that lineup...

it's not what i'm thinkin it is? is it?? lol good luck

anyways, I would love to see Rudy with the Kings because he would give us that swag back. In a way I feel like we would have to get rid of Martin in the process, but maybe not. Evans/Martin/Gay/Thompson/Hawes.... good luck dealing with that in 3-4 years

down_el_road wrote:"Uh hey guys hows it goin? Im Rudy gay, oh hold on let me just jack up 12 3's and hit 3 of them, whats that? You want me to play defence? Is that german for something? Let me just go attempt rediculous dunks that never work and the hoist another 7 3's only to hit 1 of them. Games over and we lost hmmmmm,let me see that stat sheet(grabs the stat sheet)my team had just 4 assist and they were all from KENNY THOMAS. And apparently i took 63 of my teams 71 shots, well theres always tomorrow i mean we are playing the clippers."

This is what it would look like if Rudy Gay was a King.

shows how much you know about Rudy Gay. Does he like to shoot, sure... is he a chucker?? NO and you are waaaaay exaggerating the whole thing, he is actually a very solid shooter who has confidence in himself, which is a very positive thing in a young player's development stage. He is not half the player he CAN/possibly will be.

I'd do it. I don't see Omri Casspi as a starter in this league. He may have a solid career as a back up SF, but Gay is a starter, and a good one at that. Gay has a better 3pt % than Greene, and is much less of a chucker than he is.

Gay is easily better than any of the SF's on our roster. There would have to be another move, because there wouldn't be a distributor on the team, and everyone would be looking for their own shots, but he is a player that is worth spending cap space on.

OhioKingsFan wrote:I'd do it. I don't see Omri Casspi as a starter in this league. He may have a solid career as a back up SF, but Gay is a starter, and a good one at that. Gay has a better 3pt % than Greene, and is much less of a chucker than he is.

Gay is easily better than any of the SF's on our roster. There would have to be another move, because there wouldn't be a distributor on the team, and everyone would be looking for their own shots, but he is a player that is worth spending cap space on.

exactly

I think Gay would fit in great with this team, but the question is if he's worth paying $10-12 mill a year?

Im split on this decision. I think Gay would make us virtually unstoppable on offense but I worry about our defense--which is what wins championships. I'd prefer a lockdown SF who is strong, tough, and can hit the open three. As a matter of fact I would prefer the guy Gay was traded for Battier if he was much younger of course.

If we signed Gay first of all, we'd over pay. I guess I'm ok with that considering that is the only way we will ever sign a big FA.

The only way I personally would do this, is if JT and Hawes prove that they are GOOD not AVERAGE defensive players. It would take a lot of defense in the paint to makeup for Martin and Gay.

With all that said. Petrie WILL NOT SIGN GAY. So it's fun to think about but it really just isn't happening.

Nicky Nix Nook wrote:Im split on this decision. I think Gay would make us virtually unstoppable on offense but I worry about our defense--which is what wins championships. I'd prefer a lockdown SF who is strong, tough, and can hit the open three. As a matter of fact I would prefer the guy Gay was traded for Battier if he was much younger of course.

If we signed Gay first of all, we'd over pay. I guess I'm ok with that considering that is the only way we will ever sign a big FA.

The only way I personally would do this, is if JT and Hawes prove that they are GOOD not AVERAGE defensive players. It would take a lot of defense in the paint to makeup for Martin and Gay.

With all that said. Petrie WILL NOT SIGN GAY. So it's fun to think about but it really just isn't happening.

Well you're just a downer debbie now aren't you. I really don't think that we would sign him either, but we would do a S&T for sure. Especially if we keep out space open this season and don't waste it on someone that we don't really need, then it would be pretty simple to take on extra salary through a trade.

KM44 wrote:

Nicky Nix Nook wrote:Im split on this decision. I think Gay would make us virtually unstoppable on offense but I worry about our defense--which is what wins championships. I'd prefer a lockdown SF who is strong, tough, and can hit the open three. As a matter of fact I would prefer the guy Gay was traded for Battier if he was much younger of course.

If we signed Gay first of all, we'd over pay. I guess I'm ok with that considering that is the only way we will ever sign a big FA.

The only way I personally would do this, is if JT and Hawes prove that they are GOOD not AVERAGE defensive players. It would take a lot of defense in the paint to makeup for Martin and Gay.

With all that said. Petrie WILL NOT SIGN GAY. So it's fun to think about but it really just isn't happening.

Well you're just a downer debbie now aren't you. I really don't think that we would sign him either, but we would do a S&T for sure. Especially if we keep out space open this season and don't waste it on someone that we don't really need, then it would be pretty simple to take on extra salary through a trade.

Yeah well Memphis isnt going to sign and trade him to us, that is for sure. Having said that I cant wait to see how Our fairly young threesome of Hawes, Thompson and Evans look together...and Obviously Martin with a full healthy year.

I cant help but wonder why we havent made any other moves this offseason besides the draft and signing May. I was so sure we were going to trade one of Garcia and Nocioni.

I don't see Donte Greene in a light much different than Gay or Marvin Williams. Greene has a LONG way to go before he is ready, but if we are going to get a Rudy Gay why keep Greene around?

I think the guy we should target is Joe Johnson. If we could dump nocioni for some more money under the cap, we could sign johnson to a max contract/near max contract. Hopefully we get lucky in the upcoming draft and land favors and then we go into the 2010-11 season with this line up:

Evans/Beno
Martin/Garcia/Evans
JJ/Greene/Casspi
Favors/Thompson
Hawes/Thompson


I think that would be a possible 7th/8th seed with potential to move up as the youth on the team develops.

Norbit wrote:I think the guy we should target is Joe Johnson. If we could dump nocioni for some more money under the cap, we could sign johnson to a max contract/near max contract. Hopefully we get lucky in the upcoming draft and land favors and then we go into the 2010-11 season with this line up:

Evans/Beno
Martin/Garcia/Evans
JJ/Greene/Casspi
Favors/Thompson
Hawes/Thompson


I think that would be a possible 7th/8th seed with potential to move up as the youth on the team develops.

JJ is a straight 2. He also wouldn't mesh well with Martin IMO.