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Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:24 pm
by magee
Sacto has the NBA's second longest winning streak at 4 games, behind Portland's five. Yeah, it's early in the season and may not say much, but congrats to the Kings for finding ways to win. Anyone else like Evans at SG instead of PG
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:37 pm
by artest420
I put $100 in vegas on the kings winning 24+ games this year. Easiest $100 ever
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:07 pm
by RoyalCourtJestr
While i still think Tyreke can easily be the PG, I've revised my understanding of his meaning to this team. We are, and have always been, a team that has many many passers. We'll never have Chris Paul 10 APG passer, but Tyreke is such a significant threat at any time that weither he's playing PG or SG he can get 5-7 assists a night no matter if he's PG next to Martin or SG next to Beno.
Loving our team chemistry.
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:56 pm
by perezident
Magee Evans plays PG for us. Beno is the number 2. In PW system the 1 2 and 3 are interchangable. They work hand in hand.
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:40 am
by OGSactownballer
This is a lot of what I was saying in the summer. Westphal's system is a variation of the same kind of motion offenses that we have always seen here during Petrie's time. There is a lot more dependence on the passing ability of the bigs and movement of the ball. Although this does result in assists, it also means that no one guy will often have more than 8-10 in any single game and therefore the guards averages will not look traditional. The bigs, on the other hand, will show higher numbers than you would normally see.
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:41 am
by magee
perezident, good looking out. I only watched the first game this season and it looked like Evans was more comfortable at the 2 in those couple of minutes. Then when Martin was hurt, I figured he would slide into Martin's role on offense, even though Udrih is the better shooter. Nice to know Westphal is using his basketball players as actual basketball players.
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:16 am
by cuad
Don't look now, but after San Antonio's loss to OKC, we're 6th in the west.
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:18 am
by darkadun
I find it highly interesting that for some reason, Beno seems to play well with Evans. They are forming a nice 1-2 punch atm. It seems like whenever Evans is struggling he gives it to beno and he makes a great play. The chemistry between the 2 of them seems to be better than when its just Beno and Martin.
This is my theory as to why.
Maybe sharing the load is actually helping Beno's game. Evans usually brings the ball across mid-court and then he either tries to initiate the offense & get something going...and when nothing is happening he passes to Beno. For some reason, it seems like Beno has been feeding off these situations as of late; getting into the lane, making a good pass or hitting the three.
I'm almost thinking if Evans and Beno play this well the whole time KMart is out, why not bring him off the bench when he comes back? Reminds me of Jason Terry, coming off the bench for Dallas, who is a great sixth man. Martin would absolutly kill teams off the bench. Don't know why, but it always seems demoralizing to me when a opposing teams player comes off the bench and kills you.
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:29 am
by Nicky Nix Nook
Or Manu.
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:32 am
by darkadun
Exactly. I knew I was forgetting someone important, haha.
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:59 am
by SacTownKings4Life
I wonder what ever happened to, "It's not who starts, it's who finishes"?
Also, don't look now, but according to NBA.com the Kings are not only #6 in the league in scoring, BUT THEY'RE #5 IN DEFENSE AS WELL!!! Who ever thought the day would come where we'd see the Sacramento Kings as a top 5 defensive team? Rejoice!
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:32 am
by KF10
SacTownKings4Life wrote:I wonder what ever happened to, "It's not who starts, it's who finishes"?
Also, don't look now, but according to NBA.com the Kings are not only #6 in the league in scoring, BUT THEY'RE #5 IN DEFENSE AS WELL!!! Who ever thought the day would come where we'd see the Sacramento Kings as a top 5 defensive team? Rejoice!
How are we #5 on defense!?
That seems way too off. I know for a fact we are in the bottom half of any defensive rankings in terms of opponent ppg, FG% and 3p%.
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:49 pm
by pillwenney
SacTownKings4Life wrote:I wonder what ever happened to, "It's not who starts, it's who finishes"?
Also, don't look now, but according to NBA.com the Kings are not only #6 in the league in scoring, BUT THEY'RE #5 IN DEFENSE AS WELL!!! Who ever thought the day would come where we'd see the Sacramento Kings as a top 5 defensive team? Rejoice!
Uhh....you're looking at the defensive rankings upside down there bud.
Did you really think the Warriors were the #1 defensive team?
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:09 am
by KingInExile
mitchweber wrote:SacTownKings4Life wrote:I wonder what ever happened to, "It's not who starts, it's who finishes"?
Also, don't look now, but according to NBA.com the Kings are not only #6 in the league in scoring, BUT THEY'RE #5 IN DEFENSE AS WELL!!! Who ever thought the day would come where we'd see the Sacramento Kings as a top 5 defensive team? Rejoice!
Uhh....you're looking at the defensive rankings upside down there bud.
Did you really think the Warriors were the #1 defensive team?
This literally made me LOL!
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:09 am
by RoyalCourtJestr
Yeah me too... in a crowded press box X_X
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:32 am
by SacTownKings4Life
mitchweber wrote:SacTownKings4Life wrote:I wonder what ever happened to, "It's not who starts, it's who finishes"?
Also, don't look now, but according to NBA.com the Kings are not only #6 in the league in scoring, BUT THEY'RE #5 IN DEFENSE AS WELL!!! Who ever thought the day would come where we'd see the Sacramento Kings as a top 5 defensive team? Rejoice!
Uhh....you're looking at the defensive rankings upside down there bud.
Did you really think the Warriors were the #1 defensive team?
http://www.nba.com/statistics/sortable_ ... nf=1&prd=1nba.com wrote:Team Defensive Statistics for 2009-2010
RPG BPG SPG
TEAM GAMES HME OPP DIFF HME OPP DIFF HME OPP DIFF
1 Milwaukee 7 47.14 39.28 +7.85 4.14 5.57 -1.42 7.71 9.28 -1.57
2 Dallas 9 46.00 42.55 +3.44 6.66 4.11 +2.55 7.22 8.00 -0.77
3 Indiana 7 45.28 45.00 +0.28 8.57 5.85 +2.71 7.28 8.14 -0.85
4 L.A. Lakers 9 45.00 45.55 -0.55 4.66 3.33 +1.33 9.00 7.00 +2.00
5 Sacramento 9 44.88 40.77 +4.11 4.44 6.55 -2.11 8.00 6.22 +1.77
6 Memphis 10 44.80 38.70 +6.10 4.60 5.80 -1.20 7.20 7.50 -0.30
7 Chicago 9 44.77 43.33 +1.44 6.33 5.66 +0.66 6.66 7.22 -0.55
8 Portland 11 44.36 37.45 +6.90 6.36 4.00 +2.36 6.27 6.90 -0.63
9 Charlotte 9 43.44 39.11 +4.33 4.44 7.88 -3.44 6.77 7.44 -0.66
10 Phoenix 10 43.40 41.30 +2.10 4.10 4.60 -0.50 5.10 8.60 -3.50
11 Atlanta 10 43.10 40.20 +2.90 6.50 4.10 +2.40 7.00 6.50 +0.50
12 Washington 9 42.66 42.55 +0.11 5.66 5.55 +0.11 5.88 6.44 -0.55
13 Minnesota 11 42.63 45.72 -3.09 3.54 6.54 -3.00 8.72 9.63 -0.90
14 Utah 10 41.50 38.10 +3.40 4.40 6.40 -2.00 6.20 7.10 -0.90
15 New Jersey 10 41.40 44.80 -3.40 5.20 5.30 -0.10 5.40 9.50 -4.10
16 Detroit 9 41.22 42.00 -0.77 4.77 5.00 -0.22 6.11 5.66 +0.44
17 Denver 10 41.10 43.70 -2.60 4.50 6.60 -2.10 8.40 6.30 +2.10
18 Oklahoma City 9 41.00 39.77 +1.22 6.55 4.88 +1.66 7.66 8.22 -0.55
19 Miami 9 40.88 38.66 +2.22 5.00 5.44 -0.44 6.66 6.33 +0.33
20 L.A. Clippers 10 40.60 42.60 -2.00 7.20 4.90 +2.30 7.80 8.10 -0.30
21 Houston 9 40.44 44.22 -3.77 5.00 7.00 -2.00 8.66 7.44 +1.22
22 San Antonio 8 40.12 40.87 -0.75 4.25 5.50 -1.25 6.37 6.37 -0.00
23 Philadelphia 10 40.00 41.20 -1.20 5.50 3.60 +1.90 8.30 6.40 +1.90
24 Orlando 10 40.00 40.30 -0.30 4.90 4.10 +0.80 6.10 6.80 -0.70
25 Cleveland 10 39.90 40.00 -0.10 5.30 4.30 +1.00 7.70 6.20 +1.50
26 Toronto 9 39.44 41.66 -2.22 5.11 4.11 +1.00 5.00 6.77 -1.77
27 New York 10 39.20 47.10 -7.90 4.50 4.00 +0.50 8.10 7.50 +0.60
28 New Orleans 11 38.63 44.27 -5.63 3.90 4.63 -0.72 7.27 5.54 +1.72
29 Boston 11 38.09 38.18 -0.09 4.81 4.36 +0.45 8.81 6.72 +2.09
30 Golden State 9 37.44 47.00 -9.55 5.11 6.33 -1.22 9.77 8.00 +1.77
*RPG: Total Rebounds Per Game *BPG: Blocks Per Game *SPG: Steals Per Game
Straight from NBA.com. Read it and weep...
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:51 am
by Wolfay
SI (not the best source I know) has us ranked 27 on defense...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basket ... nto-kings/
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:27 am
by SacTownKings4Life
Key words right there...
And you notice there are no stats listed to back it up. They're probably just basing it off of our reputation from last year.
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:17 am
by Inc
I really hope u dont think Boston is the 2nd worse defensive team in the league.. Stats dont tell everything
Re: Don't look now, but.....
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:36 am
by SacTownKings4Life
Dammit, you just won't let me bask in the moment, will you? (lol)
Well if nothing else, at least it means we're actually making some kind of progress.