Looking towards the draft....

Smills91 · Post #1 » by **Smills91** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 2:20 pm

I know there's a lot of Bball left to be played, and I'm encouraged by our progress as a team. Evans is the real deal. I'm excited for the future, BUT, we need ONE more young piece to really get good down the road IMO, and I think that piece can come from this draft.

The Prospects of landing a top 3 pick or even a top 7 pick are looking remote. I think this team MIGHT contend for a PO spot, but just miss out again. So I think we're probably looking at a pick in the 8-14 range.

What players could we target(Not Wall or Favor - just not realistic)...that could blend in well with our team?

Greg Monroe tops the list for me. I think he's a Petrie-esque big that could mesh well with our current bigs and play off of Evans and Martin well. However, I think his stock will rise into the top 7 by draft night.

Other thoughts?

king125 · Post #2 » by **king125** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 3:31 pm

A big man to come off the bench and join the Hawes/Thompson rotation.

Maybe Cole Aldrich, Greg Monroe, Larry Sanders, or Ed Davis. Whichever one GP likes best.

darkadun · Post #3 » by **darkadun** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 4:30 pm

Alot can change from now till then. If we have a pick in the low teens, we should probably get the best big man available. Petrie can get a good player there as he did with JT.

Crimson King · Post #4 » by **Crimson King** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 4:31 pm

Smills91 wrote:Greg Monroe tops the list for me. I think he's a Petrie-esque big that could mesh well with our current bigs and play off of Evans and Martin well. However, I think his stock will rise into the top 7 by draft night.

Other thoughts?

I agree, I think Greg Monroe would be the choice if available.

dozencousins · Post #5 » by **dozencousins** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 4:41 pm

It would be alot easier to realistically predict after the trade deadline this year not only will we know what our record is & how we stack up in terms of having a chance to make the playoffs or not & how our record compares to other but we will also then see who is on our roster still & what position of needs we have the greatest needs for upgrade !

SactownHrtBrks8 · Post #6 » by **SactownHrtBrks8** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 4:46 pm

I like Monroe, but something tells me he would get snatched up before we picked

Smills91 · Post #7 » by **Smills91** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 4:55 pm

SactownHrtBrks8 wrote:I like Monroe, but something tells me he would get snatched up before we picked

Yeah, right now he's project as a lotto pick, but I think his stock soars in combines and what not. He's very skilled, although watching him last night, he's not as fluid/mobile as I remember last season. Did he have some sort of minor knee injury/surgery over the summer that he's dealing with?

I don't think we should limite ourselves to 'JUST A BIG MAN' in the draft. That's myopic. Get the best player available, ESPECIALLY the further back we draft. Monroe may be there when we pick, but I think he goes 3-8 range honestly.

SactownHrtBrks8 · Post #8 » by **SactownHrtBrks8** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 5:41 pm

Ya i see Monroe getting drafted in the top five in he comes out. He's just that talented. I like his hands. He definitely knows how to catch ball in the post. I can't believe how big of problem that is for some bigs

Smills91 · Post #9 » by **Smills91** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 6:45 pm

What about Cole Aldrich? I think he goes 5-10 range. I think he'll be a solid player, but nothing spectacular. Would you pass on a surefire star(Evan Turner anyone) to draft for need and take Aldrich?(I don't think I would) but if Aldrich was close to the same level as another player, then I think he could fit in nice and be a bigger, stronger Center for our roster...similar to what Kaman is.

dozencousins · Post #10 » by **dozencousins** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 8:01 pm

I think if we were in the lotto & our 1st round pick was between 7-14 we are likely to take 1 of these 3

Ed Davis
Patrick Patterson

or

Willie Warren

Post #11 » by **pillwenney** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 8:13 pm

Yeah, I don't know how good of a chance there is that Aldrich is available to us, but fit-wise, he'd be great for us. He's what I've been harping for some time now for us--size, and of course, he's a nice interior presence.

But yeah, ultimately you go for BPA unless it's pretty close in terms of need. Solomon Alabi was another guy I was looking at, but I have hard time seeing Petrie draft anybody that has a 1/7 Ast/TO ratio (although his FT% so far is shockingly high). I would also be concerned about his post D, given his lack of strength. Other guys to consider for this need would seem to include Ekpe Udoh, although he wouldn't provide that size so much. Aldrich would definitely be the ideal fit for us. He even has a positive Ast/TO ratio, which I think is pretty rare for a lot of bigs in college--particularly defensive ones.

SactownHrtBrks8 · Post #12 » by **SactownHrtBrks8** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 8:24 pm

I like the idea of drafting a big. My two favorite are Monroe and Aldridge, at least as far as known products. Good chance other people will emerge as well. We have to go with best player available though. I just hope that it is no a player who is a SG/SF or tweener SF/PF.

mobiuseinz · Post #13 » by **mobiuseinz** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 8:37 pm

I know we wont be able to draft him but Turner is amazing... PG skills, off-the-ball skills, rebounds, defends and shoots the 3 at a high percentage. 6'7" with a good frame... can play the 1-2-3 I mean he is amazing!

Smills91 · Post #14 » by **Smills91** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 9:15 pm

mobiuseinz wrote:I know we wont be able to draft him but Turner is amazing... PG skills, off-the-ball skills, rebounds, defends and shoots the 3 at a high percentage. 6'7" with a good frame... can play the 1-2-3 I mean he is amazing!

Well his injury may scare off some teams(if he decided to declare), someone might take the risk to draft him based on potential alone. If he's truly that skilled, I can totally see Petrie being that 'risk-taker'...but it'd be tough getting yet ANOTHER 3 with our lotto pick. But moving Noc for a big would really help facilitate that.

down_el_road · Post #15 » by **down_el_road** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 11:12 pm

If you want a guy that can fit in with Both JT and Spencer and provide spark off the bench then Donatas Motiejunas is the guy. His skills are a little raw for the NBA and theres no word if he wants to enter this year or the next but the guy is a true talent. He has Nowitski like touch from 3 and Brad Miller type of passing game. His toughness is a ? but he no doubt has a fantastic offensive upside.

bibby1023 · Post #16 » by **bibby1023** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 11:20 pm

why does everyone want to add another big man to the rotation of jt and hawes, ya we need a back up post player, but not one from a top 10 pick...I think people tend to forget that we have a mixture of nocioni and greene starting at SF.....i don't think noci/donte/omri will be nothing but role players in this league. Why not spend a first round pick on a potential starting small foward in the future. I know we have cisco still but no way he starts on a team that is trying to contend.

Post #17 » by **pillwenney** » Wed Dec 9, 2009 11:47 pm

down_el_road wrote:If you want a guy that can fit in with Both JT and Spencer and provide spark off the bench then Donatas Motiejunas is the guy. His skills are a little raw for the NBA and theres no word if he wants to enter this year or the next but the guy is a true talent. He has Nowitski like touch from 3 and Brad Miller type of passing game. His toughness is a ? but he no doubt has a fantastic offensive upside.

Ugh...major pass on that. The last thing we need is another big where toughness is a question mark.

bibby1023 wrote:why does everyone want to add another big man to the rotation of jt and hawes, ya we need a back up post player, but not one from a top 10 pick...I think people tend to forget that we have a mixture of nocioni and greene starting at SF.....i don't think noci/donte/omri will be nothing but role players in this league. Why not spend a first round pick on a potential starting small foward in the future. I know we have cisco still but no way he starts on a team that is trying to contend.

I just don't think there is any solid basis for that. Cisco is such a useful player. I could easily see him starting on a contending team. You don't have to be a star to be a starting caliber player.

Website · Post #18 » by **Nicky Nix Nook** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:10 am

Ya no SF's this year. I suspect we add Aldrich. I desperately want a defensive big.

Smills91 · Post #19 » by **Smills91** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:17 am

Nicky Nix Nook wrote:Ya no SF's this year. I suspect we add Aldrich. I desperately want a defensive big.

Is he THAT defensive though? I think he's a good mixture of offense/defende, but I don't think he's elite on either end. Kinda like Kaman.

SVThawk · Post #20 » by **SVThawk** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:54 am

king125 wrote:A big man to come off the bench and join the Hawes/Thompson rotation.

Maybe Cole Aldrich, Greg Monroe, Larry Sanders, or Ed Davis. Whichever one GP likes best.

These two get my vote and they should be right where we'll be picking hopefully (Davis might be gone sooner though).

Davis has a more offensive savvy game, he can shoot mid-range really well and is a pretty solid defender and shot blocker.

Larry Sanders is super long and athletic, his offensive game isn't really there especially a mid-range one. He has ok post, but his Defense is really good. He needs to add some weight but he should be there in the 7-15 range where we'll pick... I'm very intrigued by him