Out of Bounds No Call

and2premiere · Post #1 » by **and2premiere** » Sat Jan 2, 2010 10:20 pm

SInce it hasn't been discussed in much detail, at last night's game it was obvious that Kobe was out of bounds. The commentators saw it, and reapetedly showed it.

Does the NBA have the power to take that shot away and give the kings the win?

If so, how could it be done?

down_el_road · Post #2 » by **down_el_road** » Sat Jan 2, 2010 10:34 pm

They could if they really wanted to but its Kobe and its the Lakers so they wont.

_SRV_ · Post #3 » by **_SRV_** » Sat Jan 2, 2010 11:23 pm

They won't, it will open a can of worms every time there's a questionable call down the line. It does make you wonder how when an official has the chance to review his call, and still make it wrong, does he really miss it or is he under some pressure?
It's water under the bridge now, and the Kings share a lot of the blame for the game outcome.

deNIEd · Post #4 » by **deNIEd** » Sat Jan 2, 2010 11:46 pm

Laker fans have brought up a good point. The King's bench and coaches were watching Kobe, yet no one said anything about him being out of bounds

Geoff35 · Post #5 » by **Geoff35** » Sun Jan 3, 2010 1:29 am

ehhh thats not really a "good point" just because noone said anything... I think you learn quick complaining publically isn't a good idea... these young kids wanna KEEP their money. Westphal clearly wasn't looking at his feet. Most of them were probably in awe of the pushoff not being called, and then more focused on if he got it off in time... which is usually what your looking for when it comes THAT close.

artest420 · Post #6 » by **artest420** » Sun Jan 3, 2010 3:06 am

i wish the kings got those type of calls their way for once.

Draino · Post #7 » by **Draino** » Sun Jan 3, 2010 3:28 am

if Kobe let it out late, it would have still counted, why because the game was in Los Angeles and how dare the officials call something against Kobe in LA?? And when I watched the shot last night and numerous times today, it did seem like the heel of his left foot was out of bounds... but like i said... how dare they call that against the "HERO"

longfellow44 · Post #8 » by **longfellow44** » Sun Jan 3, 2010 4:36 am

Stern wants us all to think of it this way. A buzzer beater by Kobe after being 20pts behind to come back and win the game by 1 is better for the NBA than the kings to win based on the fact that his foot was out of bounds and that he pushed off.

OGSactownballer · Post #9 » by **OGSactownballer** » Sun Jan 3, 2010 7:27 am

Actually the team has the right to file an official protest and have it reviewed by the league office. If they did this, it would be VERY difficult for them NOT to overturn based on the video evidence that would be broadcast over and over on every sports news program out there. The result would be a required finish at the teams' next meeting with the .2 or so left on the clock when he stepped out and the Kings inbounding the ball to make an official finish at the last score before the violation.

Now that that is clarified, do I actually think this will happen? NO! For exactly the reasons stated above. The best thing - if youcould get enough people to do it - would be to bomb David Stern and the league office with fan complaints about how we are getting completely stiffed over the last week or two on calls and that it is getting very hard for anyone in this town to be at all supportive of the Maloof's and the NBA effort to get a new arena built. THIS would be the most effective form of protest - threaten to cost them money. THAT is the only language that Stern and his boys speak.

cdt3 · Post #10 » by **cdt3** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 1:58 am

I agree he was out of bounds. I hope they can protest, it seems genuine enough. Especially after the last game LA would have lost if the foul on Pau pushing JT to the floor in the first OT for the unguarded tip in.

The NBA always lets the big guys push on the little guys. The only way to fight it is raising heck like Cuban. The Kings are talented enough now to start getting a little respect in the league.

That reminds me, why did Westphal put Sergio on Kobe? That was as bad as putting Bibby on him when he gave him the elbow to the jaw. Just on that fact alone we deserved an L for that game. Of course he pushed, bigger players will always push on smaller players. Calls are never made like that late, see MJ and his pushoff for title #5, or Gasol not getting called last game.

Either way the Kings need to use this game to drive them the rest of the year.

Post #11 » by **ICMTM** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 5:01 am

I like how other leagues (MLB. NFL) have implemented replay and are using it to get the games right! The NBA just doesn't roll that way I guess.

Website · Post #12 » by **Nicky Nix Nook** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 7:29 am

ICMTM wrote:I like how other leagues (MLB. NFL) have implemented replay and are using it to get the games right! The NBA just doesn't roll that way I guess.

The NBA doesn't rig games to have them reversed.

But seriously I do think the NBA's unwillingness to adopt a better instant replay policy is a sign of something.

_SRV_ · Post #13 » by **_SRV_** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 8:13 am

I thought they have the option to review plays at the end of games.
In last year's POs, Boston Vs Chicago, Rondo grabbed Hinrich from the back and threw him to the official table, the referees reviewed it and didn't eject Rondo, even with review officials are biased to favour certain outcome, had Rondo been treated properly the best series in last year's first round would've lost a lot weight.

Post #14 » by **Wolfay** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 8:15 am

They probably think it'll slow down the game too much. Basketball is much more fast-paced than football or baseball.

darkadun · Post #15 » by **darkadun** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 5:20 pm

Not sure about this call specifically. But I am getting very sick of preferential treatment. There is no way, anyone can deny players like Kobe, Lebron or Shannon "I'm on the Lakers" Brown gets calls teams like Kings would not.

My only hope is that if Evans can get up to superstar status, we'll start getting this crap in our favor, then it will come full circle for all the times we have been screwed.

Smills91 · Post #16 » by **Smills91** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 7:29 pm

deNIEd wrote:Laker fans have brought up a good point. The King's bench and coaches were watching Kobe, yet no one said anything about him being out of bounds

Maybe they just don't bitch and moan and throw foam fingers when things don't go their way....

....even thought they should because it was obvious he was out of bounds.

perezident · Post #17 » by **perezident** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:21 pm

I'm so tired of blaming the refs for our own mistakes and what not. YES Kobrina Bryant was out of bounds with her big feet, but IME chocked big time! If he hits his free throws we are celebrating how we beat the Lakers -- its just that simple. That's what makes good teams be great. We need to do ALL the things we gata do to win! And certainly looking for bail out calls from the ref's isn't one of them!

I cant wait to see how things work out when Martin and Cisco are back. And lets not forget we are playing now without our 3 MAIN top guys now. And still was able to run with the Lakers. We had the lead! WE BLEW it! WE just have to acquire a killer instincts when it comes to closing out games and finishing off teams

Post #18 » by **KingInExile** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 10:46 pm

perezident wrote:I'm so tired of blaming the refs for our own mistakes and what not. YES Kobrina Bryant was out of bounds with her big feet, but IME chocked big time! If he hits his free throws we are celebrating how we beat the Lakers -- its just that simple. That's what makes good teams be great. We need to do ALL the things we gata do to win! And certainly looking for bail out calls from the ref's isn't one of them!

I cant wait to see how things work out when Martin and Cisco are back. And lets not forget we are playing now without our 3 MAIN top guys now. And still was able to run with the Lakers. We had the lead! WE BLEW it! WE just have to acquire a killer instincts when it comes to closing out games and finishing off teams

QFT!

Regardless of whether the Kings did or did not get shafted by calls/non-calls, the fact still remains that the team needs to be held accountable for not taking care of business. The refs did not cause the team to blow a 20-pt lead. The refs did not make Ime (or JT) miss freethrows. The refs weren't responsible for guys blowing defensive assignments late. Yes there were questionable calls. But those questionable calls wouldn't have mattered if the Kings took care of business when they had their chances.

perezident · Post #19 » by **perezident** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 11:12 pm

^^^ So reading is not a requirement in RGM anymore?? Cuad did you high jack KIE user or KIE just has a hard on for me and didnt even bother TO READ a SINGLE line I posted!

Read first before you post bro. makes you look real "smart" when you just blab on with foolishness when I said that .....

I'm so tired of blaming the refs for our own mistakes and what not. YES Kobrina Bryant was out of bounds with her big feet, but IME choked big time!9

AND.....

We need to do ALL the things we gata do to win! And certainly looking for bail out calls from the ref's isn't one of them!

AND.......

We had the lead! WE BLEW it! WE just have to acquire a killer instincts when it comes to closing out games and finishing off teams

So you see sir, you need to "QFT" and SFR. Happy New Years :lol:

Website · Post #20 » by **Nicky Nix Nook** » Mon Jan 4, 2010 11:16 pm

perezident wrote:^^^ So reading is not a requirement in RGM anymore?? Cuad did you high jack KIE user or KIE just has a hard on for me and didnt even bother TO READ a SINGLE line I posted!

Read first before you post bro. makes you look real "smart" when you just blab on with foolishness when I said that .....

I'm so tired of blaming the refs for our own mistakes and what not. YES Kobrina Bryant was out of bounds with her big feet, but IME choked big time!9

AND.....

We need to do ALL the things we gata do to win! And certainly looking for bail out calls from the ref's isn't one of them!

AND.......

We had the lead! WE BLEW it! WE just have to acquire a killer instincts when it comes to closing out games and finishing off teams

So you see sir, you need to "QFT" and SFR. Happy New Years

Um QFT means "quoted for truth"...maybe I'm reading something wrong.