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There has been a lot of negativity with the Kings on the slide. People are saying the first quarter of the schedule was too easy. But 7 of the last 12 loses were against Division leaders (Elite) teams. This team is not ready to beat elite teams just yet with their youth but they have shown they can hang with most. Especially at home.

The schedule will not be close to this many brutal matchups together. I expect this team to get back to being a middle of the pack team the rest of the season. Maybe even a little better when Martin gets going.

Step away from all sharp objects Kings fans.

We still haven't played those two games against Boston. They are going to eat us alive.

I think you are wrong look at the last 6 road games alone we only played 2-3 average eastern teams alone we lost all 6 .
You are seriously wrong if you believe this year we will get in the middle of the pack .
Will we start playing better soon = YES it would be hard to do even worse than we have though it can be done (see the NETS for that )
Petrie & the KINGS have some very serious trade decisions this year more than tthe past 2-3 years

I like your optimism though : I think the KING will know for sure what direction they will go in in reguards to KMARTS future as a KING after 2-3 home games if not sooner .

around 3/4 of our team could be traded before the deadline the only Players i believe we for sure wont trade are : EVANS , CASSPI , THOMPSON & BROCKMAN just about anyone can be had for the right deal !

We need some fresh bodies to rejuvenate our club. We gone stale.

I think it depends on any potential trades & KMart.

If we solidify our team with a great trade, of if Kmart plays like he did at the begining of the season, I think we can win 30+. If none of that happens I see us winning maybe 10-15 more games, doubt we break 30.

I doubt we win more than 12 at best
The one thing that amazes me is how good of a team we really are considering how many games we have lost .
What our youngters need more than anything is more experience = EVANS , CASSPI , BROCKMAN , GREEN , HAWES , THOMPSON once these guys learn to close out games , stop arguing calls so much (see THONPSON for that ) then we will win alot more games .

Their ability to win more games is more mental than physical overall !

Nicky Nix Nook wrote:We need some fresh bodies to rejuvenate our club. We gone stale.

"Fresh bodies" is not the issue. This team has shown that they are CAPABLE of playing at a high level. We need THESE players to get back to that level. You do NOT press the self-destruct button every time your YOUNG, INEXPERIENCED team endures a losing streak. Anybody who knows basketball would understand that. You didn't seriously have EXPECTATIONS of making the playoffs this year, did you? We won 17 games last year, and Tyreke Evans, regardless of how good he is, is STILL only one man. Success requires an entire team being on the same page. And in order for that team to establish such cohesion, a degree of personell continuity is required.

SacTownKings4Life wrote:

Nicky Nix Nook wrote:We need some fresh bodies to rejuvenate our club. We gone stale.

"Fresh bodies" is not the issue. This team has shown that they are CAPABLE of playing at a high level. We need THESE players to get back to that level. You do NOT press the self-destruct button every time your YOUNG, INEXPERIENCED team endures a losing streak. Anybody who knows basketball would understand that. You didn't seriously have EXPECTATIONS of making the playoffs this year, did you? We won 17 games last year, and Tyreke Evans, regardless of how good he is, is STILL only one man. Success requires an entire team being on the same page. And in order for that team to establish such cohesion, a degree of personell continuity is required.

Easy there turbo. You post like I offended you or something.

What I meant is that this roster has some problems that need to be addressed. I think bringing some new fresh additions would spark this team. For example: We have a HUGE glut of wings, and someone needs to go--we don't need all of them. Also our interior defense is damn near atrocious. Thompson is an average post defender, slightly above at best. Hawes isn't a terrible help defender, but he gets bullied in the post. We need some help in the paint, and we haven't addressed that need (Armstrong was a start...I guess?).

I'm just tired of seeing the same mistakes night in and night out. I don't even see the fire this team had early on. Of course I expect losses, but I MUCH preferred the way we were losing earlier this season. After every loss I could hold my head high with optimism. Lately--not so much.

I predicted 25+ wins this year btw.

Nicky Nix Nook wrote:
Easy there turbo. You post like I offended you or something.

What I meant is that this roster has some problems that need to be addressed. I think bringing some new fresh additions would spark this team. For example: We have a HUGE glut of wings, and someone needs to go--we don't need all of them. Also our interior defense is damn near atrocious. Thompson is an average post defender, slightly above at best. Hawes isn't a terrible help defender, but he gets bullied in the post. We need some help in the paint, and we haven't addressed that need (Armstrong was a start...I guess?).

I'm just tired of seeing the same mistakes night in and night out. I don't even see the fire this team had early on. Of course I expect losses, but I MUCH preferred the way we were losing earlier this season. After every loss I could hold my head high with optimism. Lately--not so much.

I predicted 25+ wins this year btw.

Why do people always take this approach whenever I respond with an INTELLIGENT opinon? (why are you so offended?) or (why are you acting so... [fill in the blank]) Or are you simply unaccustomed to people countering your arguments?
Who said I was offended? Just so you know, it's my style to capitalize certain words for more emphasis (not for shouting). I prefere it better than itallics.
But anyhow, it would have been nice if you HAD explained your reasoning in the first place, instead of making what appeared to be a blind "lets blow up the team" statement. Because without explanation, that's exactly what is sounded like. "we need fresh bodies.............."

Also, a loss is a loss. You don't get special points for losing "close" games. And have you ever considered the possibility that since this IS such a young team, that just MAYBE, losing so many close games in succession may have psycologically worn on them? And lets not forget that we've NEVER been a great road team to begin with. This isn't the first stretch this season where we've been blown out on the road...

Even though this was a brutal stretch, this team was .500 with JT and Hawes starting together. Westphal is supposed to stick by his young big men in tough times but has been really shaky in his support and it has hurt JT's confidence. JT is still too young to carry the whole load himself and needs another big to take some, but not all, pressure off him.

Yes Brockman is a far better defender than Hawes but brings no offense to take defensive pressure off JT like Hawes does. The other teams have started crashing the paint to stop Evans and JT but they need someone else to take pressure off them in the paint. Hawes was the only guy who has some inside game.

SacTownKings4Life wrote:

Nicky Nix Nook wrote:
Easy there turbo. You post like I offended you or something.

What I meant is that this roster has some problems that need to be addressed. I think bringing some new fresh additions would spark this team. For example: We have a HUGE glut of wings, and someone needs to go--we don't need all of them. Also our interior defense is damn near atrocious. Thompson is an average post defender, slightly above at best. Hawes isn't a terrible help defender, but he gets bullied in the post. We need some help in the paint, and we haven't addressed that need (Armstrong was a start...I guess?).

I'm just tired of seeing the same mistakes night in and night out. I don't even see the fire this team had early on. Of course I expect losses, but I MUCH preferred the way we were losing earlier this season. After every loss I could hold my head high with optimism. Lately--not so much.

I predicted 25+ wins this year btw.

Why do people always take this approach whenever I respond with an INTELLIGENT opinon? (why are you so offended?) or (why are you acting so... [fill in the blank]) Or are you simply unaccustomed to people countering your arguments?
Who said I was offended? Just so you know, it's my style to capitalize certain words for more emphasis (not for shouting). I prefere it better than itallics.
But anyhow, it would have been nice if you HAD explained your reasoning in the first place, instead of making what appeared to be a blind "lets blow up the team" statement. Because without explanation, that's exactly what is sounded like. "we need fresh bodies.............."

Also, a loss is a loss. You don't get special points for losing "close" games. And have you ever considered the possibility that since this IS such a young team, that just MAYBE, losing so many close games in succession may have psycologically worn on them? And lets not forget that we've NEVER been a great road team to begin with. This isn't the first stretch this season where we've been blown out on the road...

Actually I debate people all the time but you come off very hostile. For example: "Anyone who knows basketball knows that" (paraphrased). That's not a counter argument, that is an attack. I don't know how "we need fresh bodies" gets turned into "I want to blow up the team". That's an incorrect assumption you made.

I disagree, there are good and bad losses. I think most people would agree with that. If this young team loses with heart and effort, that doesn't bother me. It's the way they've been losing is what is bothering me. Also we haven't been getting the games that we need to win: Philly, Washington, etc.

I said 32 wins before the season i think its still a possibility

Nicky Nix Nook wrote:Actually I debate people all the time but you come off very hostile. For example: "Anyone who knows basketball knows that" (paraphrased). That's not a counter argument, that is an attack. I don't know how "we need fresh bodies" gets turned into "I want to blow up the team". That's an incorrect assumption you made.

So you based my entire post on ONE sentence, and therefore determine my intent was to attack you? Um, ok. If you say so...
Like I said, if you had said all that in the first place, there would have been no NEED for assumptions. Is that at least reasonable?

Nicky Nix Nook wrote:I disagree, there are good and bad losses. I think most people would agree with that. If this young team loses with heart and effort, that doesn't bother me. It's the way they've been losing is what is bothering me. Also we haven't been getting the games that we need to win: Philly, Washington, etc.

As I said in another thread...

SacTownKings4Life wrote:So what's better standings-wise? To lose a game that we hung around in for 47 minutes, only to get our hearts ripped out in the final minute, or to lose a game in which nobody competed and the outcome was never in doubt? Do we get special points for achieving "moral victories"? If we accumulate enough of these "special points", can we trade them in for actual WINS later on down the line?

SacTownKings4Life wrote:So you based my entire post on ONE sentence, and therefore determine my intent was to attack you? Um, ok. If you say so...
Like I said, if you had said all that in the first place, there would have been no NEED for assumptions. Is that at least reasonable?

You were wondering why people were so defensive about your posts. I showed you why. But sure we can agree on the second part.

SacTownKings4Life wrote:So what's better standings-wise? To lose a game that we hung around in for 47 minutes, only to get our hearts ripped out in the final minute, or to lose a game in which nobody competed and the outcome was never in doubt? Do we get special points for achieving "moral victories"? If we accumulate enough of these "special points", can we trade them in for actual WINS later on down the line?

The game is not that black and white. It really isn't