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Info on Sacramento's Wing Players 

Post#1 » by mmmistry » Sat Feb 6, 2010 6:54 am

Hello,

I am a Toronto Raptors fan and I wanted to get some information on your wing players. It seems that you guys have alot of good wing players on your roster.

SG - Martin, Udoka, Garcia
SF - Casspi, Nocioni, Greene

* I know Evans sometimes plays the SG as well.

My question is are any of them on the trading block. It doesn't seem like there is room for all these players when Garcia is back. Greene and Nocioni are only getting around 20 minutes a game.

I noticed Greene had a career high 31 tonight. Can someone give me more info on what type of player he is. He seems to have a lot of potential.
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Post#2 » by KingInExile » Sat Feb 6, 2010 7:14 am

You can have Martin for just about anything. In fact, give me $20 and I'll fly to Sacramento from Seattle and help Martin pack.










OK...not entirely serious about the "anything" price. But I am more than ready to see him gone.
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Post#3 » by longfellow44 » Sat Feb 6, 2010 7:15 am

Greene is a guy that plays sg sf pf pretty easily he reminds me of a cross between Gerald Wallace and rashard lewis. His potential is extremely high. He shoots decently well is very quick on the drive is a very good perimeter defender and is getting better and he's an ok weakside shot blocker. He's still very raw but he seems to be able to any of those things on any given night we are waiting for the consistency he should develop with more time in the league.
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Post#4 » by mmmistry » Sat Feb 6, 2010 7:28 am

longfellow44 wrote:Greene is a guy that plays sg sf pf pretty easily he reminds me of a cross between Gerald Wallace and rashard lewis. His potential is extremely high. He shoots decently well is very quick on the drive is a very good perimeter defender and is getting better and he's an ok weakside shot blocker. He's still very raw but he seems to be able to any of those things on any given night we are waiting for the consistency he should develop with more time in the league.


My questions is whether you can see him getting 30-35 minutes a game next year. Playing 20-25 mintues a night really means that you are a bench player. I can't see him getting that many minutes on this Sac team with so many wing players.
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Post#5 » by JSrose115 » Sat Feb 6, 2010 7:36 am

i believe, marting and cisco are on the block.
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Post#6 » by cuad » Sat Feb 6, 2010 7:48 am

I think people overrate Donte Greene's jumpshot.
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Post#7 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Feb 6, 2010 11:42 am

It hasn't been Donte's shot that has impressed me, it's been his ability to attack the basket. He's playing like an in control version of himself from college. He showed flashes of this kind of potential in college and now he seems to be showing the same flashes in the NBA.
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Post#8 » by Nicky Nix Nook » Sat Feb 6, 2010 6:15 pm

Evans/Donte/Casspi/ really excites me. They embody what championships are made of: Defense, toughness, energy, and their offense isn't too bad either ;)

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Post#9 » by RoyalCourtJestr » Sat Feb 6, 2010 6:41 pm

Again, people are giving up on JT way to quick right now.
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Post#10 » by ryanandty » Sat Feb 6, 2010 6:54 pm

Martin and Nocioni are the two wings we have that are publicly "on the block," no matter what the team spouts off about not wanting to trade Martin. Garcia will probably be around a while, and Greene and Casspi are really the only untouchable ones.

Greene is still developing. I'm not exactly sure what he'll amount to (something like Rashard Lewis maybe), but he has tremendous potential.
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Post#11 » by mmmistry » Sat Feb 6, 2010 6:57 pm

Lightning Strike wrote:Again, people are giving up on JT way to quick right now.


It's obvious that Sac is lacking in the PF/C spot. The PG/SG/SF spots look solid on your roster. I think Sac should target D. Cousins from Kentucky if he comes out this year in the draft. A fronline of Cousins/Hawes/Thompson would be awesome. Each can play 32-33 mins a night. Then all that's left is for the team to grow and get better.
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Post#12 » by Nicky Nix Nook » Sat Feb 6, 2010 7:12 pm

Lightning Strike wrote:Again, people are giving up on JT way to quick right now.


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Post#13 » by ICMTM » Sat Feb 6, 2010 7:46 pm

Lightning Strike wrote:Again, people are giving up on JT way to quick right now.


+1!!

I think he is THE guy that needs to break out of his funk to get us going.
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Post#14 » by Bac2Basics » Sat Feb 6, 2010 7:52 pm

As far as the wing guys, I don't see Donte or Casspi going anywhere.

Garcia, Martin, Nocioni & Udoka are all possibilities to move.
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Post#15 » by OGSactownballer » Sat Feb 6, 2010 9:32 pm

About JT:

The guy was obviously dealing with some family issues as witness the fact that he has been gone for the past two games and 5 days for a FAMILY funeral on the East coast. Something tells me that Jason - who is a guy who wears his heart on is sleeve if there ever was one - has been distracted. But there is nothing like athletics to give you focus when you are hurting and angry. I look for him to come back and start taking that emotion out on opposing players and being pretty effective with it if he focuses.

What I saw from Donte last night (despite it being a losing effort, it was more the fact that NOBODY ELSE but Omri showed up to play) was about the most promising thing - besides Tyreke and Omri - that I have seen this season. He came to PLAY! He hung 31 points and associated rebounds and blocks on the starting Center for the Western conference All-Star team! and in case nobody noticed, he shifted through the course of the game pretty much seamlessly to coverage of both the 5 and 3 spots. If this is what happens when he gets starts and consistent minutes, then we are looking at a VERY bright future indeed. Don't forget that he is only around a year older than Tyreke!

As far as the other wings go, Omri is obviously untouchable at this point (as any rookie that is getting to play in the rookie all-star game would be) unless it is for an already proven relatively young all-star. That is how that should be, and is not homerism at all - just business. The others, well, it depends on what the offer is. I just don't quite understand Kevin's protracted slump other than today's article about the "team" being distracted by trade rumors. I think that it is KEVIN that is distracted by the rumors really.
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Post#16 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Feb 6, 2010 11:45 pm

Lightning Strike wrote:Again, people are giving up on JT way to quick right now.


JT is a solid, solid player, but the reality is his ceiling isn't all that high. He's nearing the age of 24 and he is what he is. Can he get better? Sure. I think on a team needing a solid 3rd option and some energy and charisma he's an awesome choice. On a team like the Kings he just isn't enough and won't be IMO. I think at the end of the day he is somewhere in between Udonis Haslem and David Lee in terms of his impact on the game, which isn't bad for about 25 teams in the league, but not enough for the Kings of Sacramento. A lot of people say he's a little out of control, which he is, but on a team like ours relying on a player like that is going to have an up and down rate of success. His "out of control" ways are actually a big part of what makes Jason a valuable player, but for a young team needing stability it can have some serious downward effects.
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Re: Info on Sacramento's Wing Players 

Post#17 » by darkadun » Sat Feb 6, 2010 11:53 pm

Agree about Donte, he had a heck of a game last night. He could take a few years, but if you look at examples like Josh Smith and Gerald Wallace, it pays off to be patient on guys like him. The raw talent he has is crazy. The block he had on Stoudamire was unbelievable.
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Re: Info on Sacramento's Wing Players 

Post#18 » by longfellow44 » Sun Feb 7, 2010 2:21 am

Does anybody think that Casspi could be a SG or is he just not quick enough to stay with the other 2 guards. I would love to run a lineup with Greene and Casspi as our wings with evans but I'm not sure if either could truly work well at SG full time.

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