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Oh boy....

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:26 pm
by dcaff1893
Just looking at the way the trade panned out and the way the seasons going i can say 2 things are going to be worth looking forward this offseason

1. The prospect of a young stud added to this group of kids
What position do we draft?
who do we take?

2. The FA market, i could see bosh or possibly amare but not likely, coming to sacramento to play that chris webber role and set the kings off,
Who do they take between them too?
what if there not available? does this change who we take in the draft?

The possibility of signing a top tier big, along with drafting in the top 5 is starting to turn our future good and is turning out to be something interesting we all might wanta keep our eyes on this offseason.

the only problem i see is think off all the young players we have, greene, evans, casspi, hawes, thompson, landry, there rookie contracts are winding down except for evans and casspi but when they do expire whats the deal? do we have enough money to give them all a nice pay day? if not whos the odd man or men out?

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:03 am
by City of Trees
dcaff1893 wrote:Just looking at the way the trade panned out and the way the seasons going i can say 2 things are going to be worth looking forward this offseason

1. The prospect of a young stud added to this group of kids
What position do we draft?
who do we take?

2. The FA market, i could see bosh or possibly amare but not likely, coming to sacramento to play that chris webber role and set the kings off,
Who do they take between them too?
what if there not available? does this change who we take in the draft?

The possibility of signing a top tier big, along with drafting in the top 5 is starting to turn our future good and is turning out to be something interesting we all might wanta keep our eyes on this offseason.

the only problem i see is think off all the young players we have, greene, evans, casspi, hawes, thompson, landry, there rookie contracts are winding down except for evans and casspi but when they do expire whats the deal? do we have enough money to give them all a nice pay day? if not whos the odd man or men out?




1. if we have the 3-5 pick (gut feeling) i say we draft by bpa not position. If he is there i hope we get Mr. Evan Turner! If Turner is off the board we should go with Cousins

2. IMO we are too young of a team with a poor record to attract a competitive FA, we will have to target $$$ hunrgy FA which doesnt always work out. We probably will have to overpay to get a big name in sacramento, atleast this year. I think we have done great drafting the past couple years so i say keep it buisness as usuall on draft day and anything we get out of FA is a plus. If we have a strong year next year i think our young core might be a little more appealing to the FA market



Its up to the young guys to seperate themselves with their play to get that contract. IMO at this point the only one who is showing that is Evans. then a distant second is hawes (past several games have been great to see from him). Greene, Thompson and casspi show promise but need to take it to another level

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:54 am
by stock01234
No tier-2 FA will come to Sacto, rest alone teir-1 likes of LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Amare.

Good FA (tier1 & tier2) are attracted to teams only if either of :-

1.) the team is having a very good record, having 1-2 allstar caliber players reputable coach and has already made to playoffs but need that extra push from FA to make them contenders.. FAs dont want to waste their peak career time to help a rebuilding team reach playoffs.. they wanna help playoffs team be contenders..
Kings are no way near to it.. playoffs remain a distant future.. atleast 2-3 yrs

2.) a large market team like NY, LA, Chicago & Miami
Sac is one of the smallest market team..

3.) FAs think the management/GM/owners are serious in building a contender team and not just fool around..
again sac misses on this.. we last reached playoffs 2-3 yrs back.. still the team is rebuilding and it will take atleast another 2-3 yrs just to reach playoffs.. petrie has literary screwed up the team with horrible trades and poor contract extensions..

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:18 am
by RekeHavoc
stock01234 wrote:No tier-2 FA will come to Sacto, rest alone teir-1 likes of LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Amare.

Good FA (tier1 & tier2) are attracted to teams only if either of :-

1.) the team is having a very good record, having 1-2 allstar caliber players reputable coach and has already made to playoffs but need that extra push from FA to make them contenders.. FAs dont want to waste their peak career time to help a rebuilding team reach playoffs.. they wanna help playoffs team be contenders..
Kings are no way near to it.. playoffs remain a distant future.. atleast 2-3 yrs

2.) a large market team like NY, LA, Chicago & Miami
Sac is one of the smallest market team..

3.) FAs think the management/GM/owners are serious in building a contender team and not just fool around..
again sac misses on this.. we last reached playoffs 2-3 yrs back.. still the team is rebuilding and it will take atleast another 2-3 yrs just to reach playoffs.. petrie has literary screwed up the team with horrible trades and poor contract extensions..


Ugh dude you're nuts. The last big name FA to leave was probably Joe Johnson, or one of anyway, and he left a winning situation in Phoenix to go to a smaller market in ATL to a team that had been horrible for years and was rebuilding. Or when TMac and GHill went to Orlando, another smaller market compared to the big ones you listed. That team hadn't been worth a damn for a while, and ultimately didn't do anything until both of them were gone, but at the same time they were able to lure 2 big name FAs. Or when CWebb chose to stay here vs going to NY.

2. Sacramento area is the 22nd largest media market in the US. Not huge like LA, Chi, or NY, but it's a lot bigger than you make it out to be. It's bigger than places like OKC and Portland(I think Portland anyway). It's a city with great weather and it's close to the bay, tahoe, and even not that far from LA or San Diego. You make it sound like were in Alaska.

3. Petrie's trades haven't been that bad. I know you're one of the people who was upset about the KMart trade but Landry's actually a good player and gives us an established option in the post because he actually has an offensive arsenal. You overrate the hell out of Martin, before he came back we were 13-17 and with him we went 5-18. He didn't want to be here anymore and pretty much singlehandedly sucked the life out of the team. He wasn't shooting the ball well or scoring like he could've, he was whining about touches after he left. He kind of sealed the deal when he signed with Fegan at the beginning of the season who was looking for a way to get back at Petrie after Petrie didn't pick his golden boy Rubio, and Fegan pissed Geoff off. But Martin never made an effort to make it work with Tyreke, or acknowledged that it wasn't really his team anymore, and on the court he just pouted. What the hell else were we supposed to do? And we got a player we can actually use at a position where we're pretty much not getting any production in the frontcourt. Geoff also convinced Ron to opt in to his last year of his contract, and instead of losing Ron for nothing we got Casspi(the 23rd pick last year) and Greene out of him. The Bibby trade was a bit of a flop but Bibby had been injured and was on a huge contract, that we were forced to give him back when we were still contending. The last really **** trade Petrie made was the Webber trade.

4. You said we're just fooling around, but we're playing with a bunch of rookies and guys who weren't here before. Only 6 of these guys were on the team last year. 3 of our guys are rookies, 3 are trade additions, Udoka was a FA signing and wouldn't be playing much on a good team, etc. We're still evaluating what these players can and can't do, and they're still getting better at what they're going to be doing. We've got the likely ROY, Casspi is potentially a future all star, JT was good before his cousin died, Greene has showed some serious flashes, Landry is a good player, I mean I don't see how we're just **** around. We're evaluating our players, what else were we supposed to do when we're coming off a 17 win year and we're trying to figure out which of these guys are players and which aren't? You got to evaluate and play your young players. We're going to have money, and improving roster, and another high draft pick. Are we going to get LeBron? Most likely no but we could get other guys, supporting guys or maybe Bosh or Amare depending on what happens with their teams. I think we'll be pretty damn good next year, look at the Thunder who sucked last year and then they made a trade and their young guys got better and they took huge steps this year and will probably win 50 games. Seriously come on now, stop being bitter about the Martin trade and be a realist.

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:44 am
by stock01234
RekeHavoc wrote:
stock01234 wrote:No tier-2 FA will come to Sacto, rest alone teir-1 likes of LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Amare.

Good FA (tier1 & tier2) are attracted to teams only if either of :-

1.) the team is having a very good record, having 1-2 allstar caliber players reputable coach and has already made to playoffs but need that extra push from FA to make them contenders.. FAs dont want to waste their peak career time to help a rebuilding team reach playoffs.. they wanna help playoffs team be contenders..
Kings are no way near to it.. playoffs remain a distant future.. atleast 2-3 yrs

2.) a large market team like NY, LA, Chicago & Miami
Sac is one of the smallest market team..

3.) FAs think the management/GM/owners are serious in building a contender team and not just fool around..
again sac misses on this.. we last reached playoffs 2-3 yrs back.. still the team is rebuilding and it will take atleast another 2-3 yrs just to reach playoffs.. petrie has literary screwed up the team with horrible trades and poor contract extensions..


Ugh dude you're nuts. The last big name FA to leave was probably Joe Johnson, or one of anyway, and he left a winning situation in Phoenix to go to a smaller market in ATL to a team that had been horrible for years and was rebuilding. Or when TMac and GHill went to Orlando, another smaller market compared to the big ones you listed. That team hadn't been worth a damn for a while, and ultimately didn't do anything until both of them were gone, but at the same time they were able to lure 2 big name FAs. Or when CWebb chose to stay here vs going to NY.

2. Sacramento area is the 22nd largest media market in the US. Not huge like LA, Chi, or NY, but it's a lot bigger than you make it out to be. It's bigger than places like OKC and Portland(I think Portland anyway). It's a city with great weather and it's close to the bay, tahoe, and even not that far from LA or San Diego. You make it sound like were in Alaska.

3. Petrie's trades haven't been that bad. I know you're one of the people who was upset about the KMart trade but Landry's actually a good player and gives us an established option in the post because he actually has an offensive arsenal. You overrate the hell out of Martin, before he came back we were 13-17 and with him we went 5-18. He didn't want to be here anymore and pretty much singlehandedly sucked the life out of the team. He wasn't shooting the ball well or scoring like he could've, he was whining about touches after he left. He kind of sealed the deal when he signed with Fegan at the beginning of the season who was looking for a way to get back at Petrie after Petrie didn't pick his golden boy Rubio, and Fegan pissed Geoff off. But Martin never made an effort to make it work with Tyreke, or acknowledged that it wasn't really his team anymore, and on the court he just pouted. What the hell else were we supposed to do? And we got a player we can actually use at a position where we're pretty much not getting any production in the frontcourt. Geoff also convinced Ron to opt in to his last year of his contract, and instead of losing Ron for nothing we got Casspi(the 23rd pick last year) and Greene out of him. The Bibby trade was a bit of a flop but Bibby had been injured and was on a huge contract, that we were forced to give him back when we were still contending. The last really **** trade Petrie made was the Webber trade.

4. You said we're just fooling around, but we're playing with a bunch of rookies and guys who weren't here before. Only 6 of these guys were on the team last year. 3 of our guys are rookies, 3 are trade additions, Udoka was a FA signing and wouldn't be playing much on a good team, etc. We're still evaluating what these players can and can't do, and they're still getting better at what they're going to be doing. We've got the likely ROY, Casspi is potentially a future all star, JT was good before his cousin died, Greene has showed some serious flashes, Landry is a good player, I mean I don't see how we're just **** around. We're evaluating our players, what else were we supposed to do when we're coming off a 17 win year and we're trying to figure out which of these guys are players and which aren't? You got to evaluate and play your young players. We're going to have money, and improving roster, and another high draft pick. Are we going to get LeBron? Most likely no but we could get other guys, supporting guys or maybe Bosh or Amare depending on what happens with their teams. I think we'll be pretty damn good next year, look at the Thunder who sucked last year and then they made a trade and their young guys got better and they took huge steps this year and will probably win 50 games. Seriously come on now, stop being bitter about the Martin trade and be a realist.


i am not bitching about martin trade.. i know evans-martin were not gelling well.. so martin had to be traded.. agreed..

but what did we get in return..? i like landry.. but seriously martin's trade value was more.. also once we had T-mac sealed.. why did we trade him to NYK..? jst to make HOU happy.. what did we get out of T-Mac->NYK deal..?expiring for expirings..? and losing Sergio as well..? If petrie were a great GM he would have atleast got J. Hill and/or 1-2 draft picks.. which went to HOU..

regarding petrie's past trades.. can you justify

1.) martin's trade - see above

2.) beno's contract extension.. agreed he is having a great season.. but is he worth 6m.? bibby earns the same amount and i seriously think bibby and beno has almost same left in tank..

3.) garcia's contract extension.. petrie offered $35m contract extension to a guy who averaged 6ppg in first two seasons.. and 12ppg in 3and4..his career ppg is 9.1 do you think extension was worth..?

4.) unable to trade our expirings : thomas, may, hughes by deadline.. packaging these three and hawes.. would have definitely given us a good C

5.) Artest -> HOU trade.. what did we get in return.. a late first round pick and expiring.? this trade pushed the rockets for playoff calibers to almost contenders.. r'ber they look lakers to 7-game series.. do you r'ber a single trade petrie made in which i just offered a later first round pick and a expiring for a artest-caliber guy.. never.. agreed artest was not happy with Sacto and wanted to move.. which made the deal easier.. but if petrie were wise enough he would have gotten much more in return.. considering the great season artest had with sacto..

being a GM you have look for such possible trades.. unfortunately petrie is only good in drafts.. but when it comes to trades he sucks big time

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:53 am
by stock01234
also btw.. you will be happy to know.. that petrie just got ranked # 20

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/02/19/fanh ... ger-index/

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:45 am
by RekeHavoc
stock01234 wrote:also btw.. you will be happy to know.. that petrie just got ranked # 20

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/02/19/fanh ... ger-index/



Fanhouse sucks and is pretty much worthless. I've never given a crap about anything Tom Ziller has to say, why would I start now? His opinion is pretty much as valuable as mine or yours, except he had the balls to start up a site and I'm busy with school and stuff. I would rank Geoff as a top 15 GM, every team has down times. The NBA is cyclical. When things get ugly they can get ugly real quick and when they turn around they can turn around real quick, but it usually takes a year for guys to develop/gell.

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:54 am
by RekeHavoc
stock01234 wrote:
RekeHavoc wrote:
stock01234 wrote:No tier-2 FA will come to Sacto, rest alone teir-1 likes of LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Amare.

Good FA (tier1 & tier2) are attracted to teams only if either of :-

1.) the team is having a very good record, having 1-2 allstar caliber players reputable coach and has already made to playoffs but need that extra push from FA to make them contenders.. FAs dont want to waste their peak career time to help a rebuilding team reach playoffs.. they wanna help playoffs team be contenders..
Kings are no way near to it.. playoffs remain a distant future.. atleast 2-3 yrs

2.) a large market team like NY, LA, Chicago & Miami
Sac is one of the smallest market team..

3.) FAs think the management/GM/owners are serious in building a contender team and not just fool around..
again sac misses on this.. we last reached playoffs 2-3 yrs back.. still the team is rebuilding and it will take atleast another 2-3 yrs just to reach playoffs.. petrie has literary screwed up the team with horrible trades and poor contract extensions..


Ugh dude you're nuts. The last big name FA to leave was probably Joe Johnson, or one of anyway, and he left a winning situation in Phoenix to go to a smaller market in ATL to a team that had been horrible for years and was rebuilding. Or when TMac and GHill went to Orlando, another smaller market compared to the big ones you listed. That team hadn't been worth a damn for a while, and ultimately didn't do anything until both of them were gone, but at the same time they were able to lure 2 big name FAs. Or when CWebb chose to stay here vs going to NY.

2. Sacramento area is the 22nd largest media market in the US. Not huge like LA, Chi, or NY, but it's a lot bigger than you make it out to be. It's bigger than places like OKC and Portland(I think Portland anyway). It's a city with great weather and it's close to the bay, tahoe, and even not that far from LA or San Diego. You make it sound like were in Alaska.

3. Petrie's trades haven't been that bad. I know you're one of the people who was upset about the KMart trade but Landry's actually a good player and gives us an established option in the post because he actually has an offensive arsenal. You overrate the hell out of Martin, before he came back we were 13-17 and with him we went 5-18. He didn't want to be here anymore and pretty much singlehandedly sucked the life out of the team. He wasn't shooting the ball well or scoring like he could've, he was whining about touches after he left. He kind of sealed the deal when he signed with Fegan at the beginning of the season who was looking for a way to get back at Petrie after Petrie didn't pick his golden boy Rubio, and Fegan pissed Geoff off. But Martin never made an effort to make it work with Tyreke, or acknowledged that it wasn't really his team anymore, and on the court he just pouted. What the hell else were we supposed to do? And we got a player we can actually use at a position where we're pretty much not getting any production in the frontcourt. Geoff also convinced Ron to opt in to his last year of his contract, and instead of losing Ron for nothing we got Casspi(the 23rd pick last year) and Greene out of him. The Bibby trade was a bit of a flop but Bibby had been injured and was on a huge contract, that we were forced to give him back when we were still contending. The last really **** trade Petrie made was the Webber trade.

4. You said we're just fooling around, but we're playing with a bunch of rookies and guys who weren't here before. Only 6 of these guys were on the team last year. 3 of our guys are rookies, 3 are trade additions, Udoka was a FA signing and wouldn't be playing much on a good team, etc. We're still evaluating what these players can and can't do, and they're still getting better at what they're going to be doing. We've got the likely ROY, Casspi is potentially a future all star, JT was good before his cousin died, Greene has showed some serious flashes, Landry is a good player, I mean I don't see how we're just **** around. We're evaluating our players, what else were we supposed to do when we're coming off a 17 win year and we're trying to figure out which of these guys are players and which aren't? You got to evaluate and play your young players. We're going to have money, and improving roster, and another high draft pick. Are we going to get LeBron? Most likely no but we could get other guys, supporting guys or maybe Bosh or Amare depending on what happens with their teams. I think we'll be pretty damn good next year, look at the Thunder who sucked last year and then they made a trade and their young guys got better and they took huge steps this year and will probably win 50 games. Seriously come on now, stop being bitter about the Martin trade and be a realist.


i am not bitching about martin trade.. i know evans-martin were not gelling well.. so martin had to be traded.. agreed..

but what did we get in return..? i like landry.. but seriously martin's trade value was more.. also once we had T-mac sealed.. why did we trade him to NYK..? jst to make HOU happy.. what did we get out of T-Mac->NYK deal..?expiring for expirings..? and losing Sergio as well..? If petrie were a great GM he would have atleast got J. Hill and/or 1-2 draft picks.. which went to HOU..

regarding petrie's past trades.. can you justify

1.) martin's trade - see above

2.) beno's contract extension.. agreed he is having a great season.. but is he worth 6m.? bibby earns the same amount and i seriously think bibby and beno has almost same left in tank..

3.) garcia's contract extension.. petrie offered $35m contract extension to a guy who averaged 6ppg in first two seasons.. and 12ppg in 3and4..his career ppg is 9.1 do you think extension was worth..?

4.) unable to trade our expirings : thomas, may, hughes by deadline.. packaging these three and hawes.. would have definitely given us a good C

5.) Artest -> HOU trade.. what did we get in return.. a late first round pick and expiring.? this trade pushed the rockets for playoff calibers to almost contenders.. r'ber they look lakers to 7-game series.. do you r'ber a single trade petrie made in which i just offered a later first round pick and a expiring for a artest-caliber guy.. never.. agreed artest was not happy with Sacto and wanted to move.. which made the deal easier.. but if petrie were wise enough he would have gotten much more in return.. considering the great season artest had with sacto..

being a GM you have look for such possible trades.. unfortunately petrie is only good in drafts.. but when it comes to trades he sucks big time



How do you not get what we got from the Artest to Houston trade? FOR ONE SEASON OF RON ARTEST, WE GOT AN BOBBY JACKSON, DONTE GREENE, AND THE PICK THAT TURNED OUT TO BE OMRI CASSPI. I would say that's a good deal if Artest would've left for the Lakers anyway(which he might not have but the team we had wasn't going anywhere anyway). You weren't going to get more for Ron. The guy wound up signing for the MLE with LA. You got 2 young guys who can potentially start down the road. That was one of his best trades.

The NY trade you want, where we keep TMac or trade him to NY ourselves, that was a 3 team deal the whole time. Houston just didn't want Hughes's expiring since they were getting rid of TMac's huger one and they weren't going to have cap room anyway, so we basically worked our way into the deal. But it was never TMac to Sac, that would've required us to send back NOc to Houston and they wouldn't have taken that. So we got the best deal we could. Landry has a good chance to give us somewhere between 17/8-20/10.

We didn't trade our own expirings because we want cap space in the offseason. There's a buttload of free agents in the offseason. We have a young team with 2-3 potential stars and so we shouldn't have too much trouble attracting someone, even if it's just some supporting players. In your mind you've already come to the conclusion we won't sign anybody good so we should've traded our cap room, and Geoff obviously thinks he can get a player or 2-3 supporting players so he wants the cap room. So basically because his approach is opposite yours you're critical of him.

Bibby has been trash this year dude. I was a huge fan of Mike's but he is seriously washed up. He's shooting under 40%, averaging less than 10 PPG, and he averages 4 APG. I didn't even want to sign Beno to that deal but he's better than bibby right now by a lot and it's not even close. Garcia's deal surprised me, and we seriously overpaid, but in theory the guy is the perfect fit with Reke. He should be Doug Christie-esque if his wrist is fully healed and he gets right. You can always use guys like Cisco as role players, he can shoot it, handle it, pass it, and play good D.

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:33 pm
by stock01234
i would love to see what FA petrie can sign this summer.. i can bet my entire savings that Lebron, Bosh, Wade and Amare wont even look at kings..

then comes tier2 FAs.. they would consider only if kings overpaid.. and if the FA is really good player.. then believe me.. some other team with better record and star would would offer the same and FA will leave for that team..

lets see how petrie's plan rolls..

P.S. : it doesnt hurt much to be little over the cap if it helps team to rise to next level..

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:32 am
by SacTownKings4Life
RekeHavoc wrote:We didn't trade our own expirings because we want cap space in the offseason. There's a buttload of free agents in the offseason. We have a young team with 2-3 potential stars and so we shouldn't have too much trouble attracting someone, even if it's just some supporting players. In your mind you've already come to the conclusion we won't sign anybody good so we should've traded our cap room, and Geoff obviously thinks he can get a player or 2-3 supporting players so he wants the cap room. So basically because his approach is opposite yours you're critical of him.


I myself am not a GP critic, however can you name me exactly how many big name free agents have signed (not REsigned) in Sacramento in the last 10, 15, hell 25 years? Can you even get passed one? (Vlade)

Our championship contending team of yesterdecade consisted of ONE free agent signing (see above), draft picks, and trades. Even when we WERE the best team in the league, people weren't exactly banging down the doors to get to Sacramento. And then we had to drastically overpay just to KEEP the talent that we did have.

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:39 am
by stock01234
SacTownKings4Life wrote:
RekeHavoc wrote:We didn't trade our own expirings because we want cap space in the offseason. There's a buttload of free agents in the offseason. We have a young team with 2-3 potential stars and so we shouldn't have too much trouble attracting someone, even if it's just some supporting players. In your mind you've already come to the conclusion we won't sign anybody good so we should've traded our cap room, and Geoff obviously thinks he can get a player or 2-3 supporting players so he wants the cap room. So basically because his approach is opposite yours you're critical of him.


I myself am not a GP critic, however can you name me exactly how many big name free agents have signed (not REsigned) in Sacramento in the last 10, 15, hell 25 years? Can you even get passed one? (Vlade)

Our championship contending team of yesterdecade consisted of ONE free agent signing (see above), draft picks, and trades. Even when we WERE the best team in the league, people weren't exactly banging down the doors to get to Sacramento. And then we had to drastically overpay just to KEEP the talent that we did have.


+1

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:22 am
by darkadun
I think its highly possible we can sign someone. For one thing, money talks. Secondly, we have Evans. Evans is getting respect around the league. Teams are shaping their whole defensive plan around him. Your telling me a borderline all-star or all-star caliber player would not be interested in coming to play with him? I know I would be.

With that said its likely we won't sign someone big. Next year, we'll have a high lottery pick, with a good chance he will be a impact player. It's also very possible we can sign a good role player to help round out our roster for next year. Add those two players to the continued development of our young guys and we'll have a good squad next year.

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:20 am
by City of Trees
darkadun wrote:I think its highly possible we can sign someone. For one thing, money talks. Secondly, we have Evans. Evans is getting respect around the league. Teams are shaping their whole defensive plan around him. Your telling me a borderline all-star or all-star caliber player would not be interested in coming to play with him? I know I would be.

With that said its likely we won't sign someone big. Next year, we'll have a high lottery pick, with a good chance he will be a impact player. It's also very possible we can sign a good role player to help round out our roster for next year. Add those two players to the continued development of our young guys and we'll have a good squad next year.



Its still too soon from us having the worst record in the league to be attracting top free agents who want to win.....like i said before we can offer a $$$ hungry top free agent but look at how many other teams can offer max deals. We do have a young team and Tyreke is getting respect but what these soon to be free agents have learned at their current team is it takes an entire team to win and they will want to go to a situation where they think a championship is possible. Sadly the kings do not fit that bill, however i do think the kings will be big player in free agency in 2011 and 2012!

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:31 pm
by SacTownKings4Life
darkadun wrote:I think its highly possible we can sign someone. For one thing, money talks. Secondly, we have Evans. Evans is getting respect around the league. Teams are shaping their whole defensive plan around him. Your telling me a borderline all-star or all-star caliber player would not be interested in coming to play with him? I know I would be.

With that said its likely we won't sign someone big. Next year, we'll have a high lottery pick, with a good chance he will be a impact player. It's also very possible we can sign a good role player to help round out our roster for next year. Add those two players to the continued development of our young guys and we'll have a good squad next year.


Yeah, Evans is cool and all, but if YOU are a free agent (and not a Kings fan) why would you want to play for a bottom feeding lottery team which gets absolutely ZERO media attention (only ONE national tv game) and still is not yet even at the CUSP of playoff contention? Especially when there are plenty of other teams in better situations with just as much money to throw in your direction? Personally, if I am an all-star free agent and I wanted another young all-star caliber player next to me I would be more inclined to play with a Kevin Durant in OKC. They have money to blow as well and are in an IMENSELY better situation than we are. I really think we aren't that much more attractive than Minnesota. Hopefully I might be wrong, but who knows?

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:50 pm
by pillwenney
To be completely fair, when was the last time we had any kind of cap space to go after a big name FA? I don't recall any time we've had decent cap space since we signed Vlade, actually.

Re: Oh boy....

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:06 am
by SacTownKings4Life
mitchweber wrote:To be completely fair, when was the last time we had any kind of cap space to go after a big name FA? I don't recall any time we've had decent cap space since we signed Vlade, actually.


Hey, I'd LIKE to be wrong on this. I'm just remaining somewhat realistic.