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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#461 » by Big J » Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:57 pm

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The groin injury began 6 games ago? Didn't you say Scoot is faking his injury to protect his stock? :lol:


No, he injured it on Sunday in the SEC championship game buddy. If Miller was trying to protect his stock he would shut it down like non competitive Scoot did.


Ah ok so this is just you arbitrarily deciding what is and isn't legitimate to validate your narrative.


I’m sure Scoot does have some injuries, but he could probably play through them like Miller is doing.
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Post#462 » by JMAC3 » Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:28 am

Difference between Miller and Scoot at this point, Scoot struggled and then decided to stop playing the last 5 games.

I fully expect Miller to have several big time moments to finish the year in the tourney.
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Post#463 » by JMAC3 » Yesterday 3:42 am

Miller has had a few highlight moments, including a really great chase down block on one end and a runout three on other end in a matter of 5 seconds.

He has 15 pts with 11 mins left, has a shot to turn this into a really big game
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Post#464 » by reanimator » Yesterday 1:22 pm

Another inefficient night against a good Maryland defense though I do like that he is getting to the line during his extended slump.

Next opportunity vs a great San Diego St defense and possibly a great Creighton defense after that.
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Post#465 » by Big J » Yesterday 2:53 pm

I can't believe the numbers he's putting up on an actual contender as a frosh. Who is the last one to do that? Melo?
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Post#466 » by eminence » Yesterday 3:55 pm

Big J wrote:I can't believe the numbers he's putting up on an actual contender as a frosh. Who is the last one to do that? Melo?


There might be some Thad Young style slash line, but there have been plenty of heavily contributing youngsters in the last two decades.
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Post#467 » by azcatz11 » Yesterday 4:02 pm

Well the tied as turned on Miller. Most people now believe he is a functioning 6’9 dude who will be a shooter because he doesn’t have great athleticism.

Sounds like most mocks have him outside the top 10
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Post#468 » by BAMAFREAK » Yesterday 5:33 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Well the tied as turned on Miller. Most people now believe he is a functioning 6’9 dude who will be a shooter because he doesn’t have great athleticism.

Sounds like most mocks have him outside the top 10


Huh? Which mocks have him outside of the top 10?
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#469 » by Big J » Yesterday 6:06 pm

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Big J wrote:I can't believe the numbers he's putting up on an actual contender as a frosh. Who is the last one to do that? Melo?


There might be some Thad Young style slash line, but there have been plenty of heavily contributing youngsters in the last two decades.


Yea I guess Zion & AD. Both are superstars now too. Seems like Miller will be one as well.
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Post#470 » by eminence » Yesterday 7:57 pm

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Big J wrote:I can't believe the numbers he's putting up on an actual contender as a frosh. Who is the last one to do that? Melo?


There might be some Thad Young style slash line, but there have been plenty of heavily contributing youngsters in the last two decades.


Yea I guess Zion & AD. Both are superstars now too. Seems like Miller will be one as well.


Or like Okafor. Or Bagley. Or I'm sure several others.

Miller has been excellent in college, he hasn't been notably special all-time.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#471 » by Big J » Yesterday 8:55 pm

eminence wrote:
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There might be some Thad Young style slash line, but there have been plenty of heavily contributing youngsters in the last two decades.


Yea I guess Zion & AD. Both are superstars now too. Seems like Miller will be one as well.


Or like Okafor. Or Bagley. Or I'm sure several others.

Miller has been excellent in college, he hasn't been notably special all-time.


Neither of those guys could shoot free throws though. Which is a huge red flag.
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Post#472 » by Hal14 » Today 2:10 am

JMAC3 wrote:Difference between Miller and Scoot at this point, Scoot struggled and then decided to stop playing the last 5 games.

I fully expect Miller to have several big time moments to finish the year in the tourney.

No he didn't
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#473 » by The-Power » Today 2:17 am

eminence wrote:Or like Okafor. Or Bagley. Or I'm sure several others.

Miller has been excellent in college, he hasn't been notably special all-time.

This is a post from one week ago:

The-Power wrote:Also, just to put his production into context (not to draw sweeping conclusions), here are the top 10 BPM scores from Freshmen (≥ 400 minutes played, since 2010/11).

1. Zion Williamson (20.1)
2. Anthony Davis (17.2)
3. Chet Holmgren (15.0)
4. Karl-Anthony Towns (14.3)
5. Evan Mobley (13.7)
6. Brandon Miller (13.1)
7. Nerlens Noel (12.1)
8. Lonzo Ball (12.0)
9. D'Angelo Russell (11.9)
10. Joel Embiid (11.9)

Pretty good company to be in. Highest ranking among non-bigs and the only player who is neither a big man nor a lead guard.


I think he has had a pretty historic season particularly for a wing/forward. Obviously that doesn't mean he'll be a superstar in the NBA but his college season may still be underrated overall.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#474 » by eminence » Today 9:43 am

The-Power wrote:
eminence wrote:Or like Okafor. Or Bagley. Or I'm sure several others.

Miller has been excellent in college, he hasn't been notably special all-time.

This is a post from one week ago:

The-Power wrote:Also, just to put his production into context (not to draw sweeping conclusions), here are the top 10 BPM scores from Freshmen (≥ 400 minutes played, since 2010/11).

1. Zion Williamson (20.1)
2. Anthony Davis (17.2)
3. Chet Holmgren (15.0)
4. Karl-Anthony Towns (14.3)
5. Evan Mobley (13.7)
6. Brandon Miller (13.1)
7. Nerlens Noel (12.1)
8. Lonzo Ball (12.0)
9. D'Angelo Russell (11.9)
10. Joel Embiid (11.9)

Pretty good company to be in. Highest ranking among non-bigs and the only player who is neither a big man nor a lead guard.


I think he has had a pretty historic season particularly for a wing/forward. Obviously that doesn't mean he'll be a superstar in the NBA but his college season may still be underrated overall.


Sure, I acknowledge he's been excellent. But that there is a huge step back from 'Best freshman on a contender since Melo?' (which is a weird question as Melo wasn't the best of those since Melo).

Now it's 'Best wing on a contender since 2011 by BPM'

If you have to add 2 new qualifiers to a statement it's not really the same statement at all (counting 2011 and BPM as half qualifiers each, as they're more adjustments than completely new qualifiers).

Given a bit of wiggle room on 'contender' - I'd have it pretty well behind Oden/Love/Davis/Zion as impressive first year seasons since '03 on contenders. Much more in line with Sullinger/Wright/Bagley/Mobley/Zeller/Okafor/Rose/Barrett/Cousins/etc.
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