eminence wrote:Or like Okafor. Or Bagley. Or I'm sure several others.
Miller has been excellent in college, he hasn't been notably special all-time.
This is a post from one week ago:
The-Power wrote:Also, just to put his production into context (not to draw sweeping conclusions), here are the top 10 BPM scores from Freshmen (≥ 400 minutes played, since 2010/11).
1. Zion Williamson (20.1)
2. Anthony Davis (17.2)
3. Chet Holmgren (15.0)
4. Karl-Anthony Towns (14.3)
5. Evan Mobley (13.7)
6. Brandon Miller (13.1)
7. Nerlens Noel (12.1)
8. Lonzo Ball (12.0)
9. D'Angelo Russell (11.9)
10. Joel Embiid (11.9)
Pretty good company to be in. Highest ranking among non-bigs and the only player who is neither a big man nor a lead guard.
I think he has had a pretty historic season particularly for a wing/forward. Obviously that doesn't mean he'll be a superstar in the NBA but his college season may still be underrated overall.
Sure, I acknowledge he's been excellent. But that there is a huge step back from 'Best freshman on a contender since Melo?' (which is a weird question as Melo wasn't the best of those since Melo).
Now it's 'Best wing
on a contender since 2011
If you have to add 2 new qualifiers to a statement it's not really the same statement at all (counting 2011 and BPM as half qualifiers each, as they're more adjustments than completely new qualifiers).
Given a bit of wiggle room on 'contender' - I'd have it pretty well behind Oden/Love/Davis/Zion as impressive first year seasons since '03 on contenders. Much more in line with Sullinger/Wright/Bagley/Mobley/Zeller/Okafor/Rose/Barrett/Cousins/etc.