Undersized Two Guards/Combo Guards

CP War Hawks · Post #1 » by **CP War Hawks** » Tue May 9, 2023 10:39 am

Please rank these guys from top to bottom offensively and defensively.

Jaylen Clark
Brandin Podziemski
D'Moi Hodge
Isaiah Wong
Judah Mintz
Trey Alexander
Terquavion Smith
Amari Bailey
Kobe Bufkin

EvanZ · Post #2 » by **EvanZ** » Tue May 9, 2023 1:49 pm

Bailey and Bufkin probably the highest ceiling in terms of being two-way players. Podz is a very smart player who has good size/strength (wouldn't call him undersized really), he's just not a great athlete. Terq and Mintz are incredibly fun players who are probably just too small, although I do think Terq actually defends fairly well. If he can figure out the shooting and become more of an off ball threat, he might stick, but he really does need to put on like 15 pounds.

clyde21 · Post #3 » by **clyde21** » Tue May 9, 2023 4:57 pm

not sure all these guys are combo guards, Jaylen Clark is more of a wing, Judah Mintz is more of an actual PG than a two or combo, same with Bufkin imo.

Trey, Mintz, Clark and Bufkin are my favorite of the bunch tho. Especially Trey, Mintz and Bufkin, probably all top 25 guys for me.

eminence · Post #4 » by **eminence** » Tue May 9, 2023 7:20 pm

Podziemiski is the only one I like much, though I could see Clark having his uses.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #5 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Tue May 9, 2023 9:41 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:Please rank these guys from top to bottom offensively and defensively.

Jaylen Clark
Brandin Podziemski
D'Moi Hodge
Isaiah Wong
Judah Mintz
Trey Alexander
Terquavion Smith
Amari Bailey
Kobe Bufkin

imo, bufkin is the best prospect of the group. podz is the most skilled offensive player and clark is the best defensive player in that group - probably not close. podz and bukfin the only two that will be drafted in round 1 unless Bailey sneaks in there.

FarBeyondDriven · Post #6 » by **FarBeyondDriven** » Thu May 18, 2023 1:40 am

EvanZ wrote:Bailey and Bufkin probably the highest ceiling in terms of being two-way players. Podz is a very smart player who has good size/strength (wouldn't call him undersized really), he's just not a great athlete. Terq and Mintz are incredibly fun players who are probably just too small, although I do think Terq actually defends fairly well. If he can figure out the shooting and become more of an off ball threat, he might stick, but he really does need to put on like 15 pounds.

didn't Podziemski just have the 6th highest vertical at the combine at 39 inches?

EvanZ · Post #7 » by **EvanZ** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:25 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Bailey and Bufkin probably the highest ceiling in terms of being two-way players. Podz is a very smart player who has good size/strength (wouldn't call him undersized really), he's just not a great athlete. Terq and Mintz are incredibly fun players who are probably just too small, although I do think Terq actually defends fairly well. If he can figure out the shooting and become more of an off ball threat, he might stick, but he really does need to put on like 15 pounds.

didn't Podziemski just have the 6th highest vertical at the combine at 39 inches?

He tanked his standing reach by several inches to obtain that.

Coeur · Post #8 » by **Coeur** » Thu May 18, 2023 5:25 am

Best defensively Abe maybe only nba player on the whole list is JC. Before season ending injury late. Best offensive player Abe 2nd best overall Podz

SeattleJazzFan · Post #9 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:44 pm

EvanZ wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Bailey and Bufkin probably the highest ceiling in terms of being two-way players. Podz is a very smart player who has good size/strength (wouldn't call him undersized really), he's just not a great athlete. Terq and Mintz are incredibly fun players who are probably just too small, although I do think Terq actually defends fairly well. If he can figure out the shooting and become more of an off ball threat, he might stick, but he really does need to put on like 15 pounds.

didn't Podziemski just have the 6th highest vertical at the combine at 39 inches?

He tanked his standing reach by several inches to obtain that.

he tanked it by two or three inches. so even with the tank, he's at 36 or 37" on his vertical - still a plus vertical athlete.

EvanZ · Post #10 » by **EvanZ** » Thu May 18, 2023 4:01 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
didn't Podziemski just have the 6th highest vertical at the combine at 39 inches?

He tanked his standing reach by several inches to obtain that.

he tanked it by two or three inches. so even with the tank, he's at 36 or 37" on his vertical - still a plus vertical athlete.

My guy...he had 7 dunks in a league not blessed with athletes. I'm telling you, you will be disappointed if you think he's a "plus vertical athlete" in the NBA at the guard position. This is not GPII or even DDV.