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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#761 » by JMAC3 » Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:26 pm

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JustBuzzin wrote:Brandon Miller will be the next great superstar Mark my words.

Remember this day, we were all here and witnessed these words. Check back with me 5 years from now and give me my flowers. 8-)


what's going on with your boy? The LaMelo effect?


Shooting slump, have to believe he doesnt break out of this with his good sample sizes from college and rookie year. However, Charles Lee wants teams shooting 50 threes a game and Miller is shooting over 10 per game even while slumping which is killing his overall fg%.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#762 » by The-Power » Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:48 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Brandon Miller will be the next great superstar Mark my words.

Remember this day, we were all here and witnessed these words. Check back with me 5 years from now and give me my flowers. 8-)


what's going on with your boy? The LaMelo effect?


Shooting slump, have to believe he doesnt break out of this with his good sample sizes from college and rookie year. However, Charles Lee wants teams shooting 50 threes a game and Miller is shooting over 10 per game even while slumping which is killing his overall fg%.

My main concern regarding Miller is not the shooting slump but that he is still way too inefficient inside the arc. He hardly gets to the rim and does not draw fouls. His numbers are flat-out bad in this regard. Hard to be an offensive cornerstone with that combination even after his 3P% bounces back. So he has his work cut out for him.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#763 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:54 pm

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red_power wrote:The only difference is a fact that Miller used to be a go-to offensive player on his college team. He has a clear advantage over Risacher in that regard.
I mean Zaccharie is likely to become a very good player but still a tier below Miller.


Risacher was 18 y/o playing a specific role on a team full of grown men in a professional league. Miller was on a stacked team and 20 y/o as a freshmen in college

Miller>Risacher let it go man.

Miller dropped 41 in a college basketball game. Do you know how hard it is to drop those kind of points in a college basketball game?

Risacher has yet to show that kind of scoring ability. When Risacher shows a more consistent handle and shot creation off the dribble I will gladly compare him to Miller.

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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#764 » by KembaWalker » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:43 am

Looks like the slump might be over. Back to reality for Miller haters
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#765 » by SeattleJazzFan » Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:30 pm

Miller is amazing. but it's a shame he's playing with a pg that takes 25 shots a game. if miller has as ceiling, it's that he has to play with lamelo.

he didn't really take off last year until lamelo went out for the season with injury and even last night in a game where he was playing well, once lamelo fouled out, he really became the star he has the potential to be.

not sure there has ever been a star wing or big who has a pg taking 25 shots a game (actually 23, but don't put it past lamelo to get to 25). that has to be so difficult to get in a rhythm when the guy with the ball is ending so many possessions himself.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#766 » by KembaWalker » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:48 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:Miller is amazing. but it's a shame he's playing with a pg that takes 25 shots a game. if miller has as ceiling, it's that he has to play with lamelo.

he didn't really take off last year until lamelo went out for the season with injury and even last night in a game where he was playing well, once lamelo fouled out, he really became the star he has the potential to be.

not sure there has ever been a star wing or big who has a pg taking 25 shots a game (actually 23, but don't put it past lamelo to get to 25). that has to be so difficult to get in a rhythm when the guy with the ball is ending so many possessions himself.


Theres more than enough opportunities for both of them when they're playing with Moussa Diabate, Josh Green, Tidjane Salaun, Taj Gibson.

I'm curious how many shots you think Miller should be taking because he's already at 16.3 and trending up in only 32 minutes. Thats more than Scottie Barnes, Benedict Mathurin, Shaedon Sharpe. More than Wagner would be taking if Banchero was healthy.

I'd love him to be an efficient 20+ FGA per game player too but he's gotta show he can handle 16 first

Ball and Miller is basically an ideal fit, Miller is done no favors spending more time dribbling
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#767 » by JMAC3 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:58 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:Miller is amazing. but it's a shame he's playing with a pg that takes 25 shots a game. if miller has as ceiling, it's that he has to play with lamelo.

he didn't really take off last year until lamelo went out for the season with injury and even last night in a game where he was playing well, once lamelo fouled out, he really became the star he has the potential to be.

not sure there has ever been a star wing or big who has a pg taking 25 shots a game (actually 23, but don't put it past lamelo to get to 25). that has to be so difficult to get in a rhythm when the guy with the ball is ending so many possessions himself.


LaMelo is only at 23 this year because we lack guys around him that can help carry the load. The last 2 years he has been more in the 20 shot range which is where I think him and Brandon should live.

Miles Bridges is a solid #3 who can live on 12-15 shots and support those 2 for now until they look to potentially upgrade.

Grant Williams is playing the 3rd most dangerous man roles in a lot of lineups right now so both Miller and Melo are heaving up a bunch of threes that aren't really great shots.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#768 » by wco81 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:29 pm

I thought it was very interesting that Melo didn't play in the OT at all.

Down the stretch, as they were losing the double-digit lead, Melo was given at least 3 possessions to create a shot for himself and they all missed.

So in OT, it was Miller and also Mann initiating offense.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#769 » by KembaWalker » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:31 pm

wco81 wrote:I thought it was very interesting that Melo didn't play in the OT at all.

Down the stretch, as they were losing the double-digit lead, Melo was given at least 3 possessions to create a shot for himself and they all missed.

So in OT, it was Miller and also Mann initiating offense.


he fouled out of the game 1 second into OT (on a terrible call)
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#770 » by wco81 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:35 pm

Ah missed that.

But it's good that the team generated good offense without him.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#771 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:38 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:Miller is amazing. but it's a shame he's playing with a pg that takes 25 shots a game. if miller has as ceiling, it's that he has to play with lamelo.

he didn't really take off last year until lamelo went out for the season with injury and even last night in a game where he was playing well, once lamelo fouled out, he really became the star he has the potential to be.

not sure there has ever been a star wing or big who has a pg taking 25 shots a game (actually 23, but don't put it past lamelo to get to 25). that has to be so difficult to get in a rhythm when the guy with the ball is ending so many possessions himself.


LaMelo is only at 23 this year because we lack guys around him that can help carry the load. The last 2 years he has been more in the 20 shot range which is where I think him and Brandon should live.

Miles Bridges is a solid #3 who can live on 12-15 shots and support those 2 for now until they look to potentially upgrade.

Grant Williams is playing the 3rd most dangerous man roles in a lot of lineups right now so both Miller and Melo are heaving up a bunch of threes that aren't really great shots.


the issue isn't the number of shots Miller or anybody else is getting, it's standing around watching the point guard jack up 25 shots every night. you can't make teammates better when as a PG you are taking more shots that Kobe ever took (with the exception of one season). what lamelo is doing and being allowed to do by charlotte coaches is insanity.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#772 » by KembaWalker » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:42 pm

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JMAC3 wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:Miller is amazing. but it's a shame he's playing with a pg that takes 25 shots a game. if miller has as ceiling, it's that he has to play with lamelo.

he didn't really take off last year until lamelo went out for the season with injury and even last night in a game where he was playing well, once lamelo fouled out, he really became the star he has the potential to be.

not sure there has ever been a star wing or big who has a pg taking 25 shots a game (actually 23, but don't put it past lamelo to get to 25). that has to be so difficult to get in a rhythm when the guy with the ball is ending so many possessions himself.


LaMelo is only at 23 this year because we lack guys around him that can help carry the load. The last 2 years he has been more in the 20 shot range which is where I think him and Brandon should live.

Miles Bridges is a solid #3 who can live on 12-15 shots and support those 2 for now until they look to potentially upgrade.

Grant Williams is playing the 3rd most dangerous man roles in a lot of lineups right now so both Miller and Melo are heaving up a bunch of threes that aren't really great shots.


the issue isn't the number of shots Miller or anybody else is getting, it's standing around watching the point guard jack up 25 shots every night. you can't make teammates better when as a PG you are taking more shots that Kobe ever took (with the exception of one season). what lamelo is doing and being allowed to do by charlotte coaches is insanity.


Why would Brandon Miller care or be affected by LaMelo taking 30 shots instead of 20 shots? You think Brandon specifically is out there wringing his hands about Taj Gibson and Tidjane Salaun not getting more chances? lol. and i'm not just naming random guys for comedic effect these are likely to be the starters playing alongside them tonight (or Moussa Diabate and Cody Martin which is essentially the same thing), along with Josh Green lol

we need both of them handling as much offense as they can. even more now with Grant being out for the year
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#773 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:11 pm

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SeattleJazzFan wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
LaMelo is only at 23 this year because we lack guys around him that can help carry the load. The last 2 years he has been more in the 20 shot range which is where I think him and Brandon should live.

Miles Bridges is a solid #3 who can live on 12-15 shots and support those 2 for now until they look to potentially upgrade.

Grant Williams is playing the 3rd most dangerous man roles in a lot of lineups right now so both Miller and Melo are heaving up a bunch of threes that aren't really great shots.


the issue isn't the number of shots Miller or anybody else is getting, it's standing around watching the point guard jack up 25 shots every night. you can't make teammates better when as a PG you are taking more shots that Kobe ever took (with the exception of one season). what lamelo is doing and being allowed to do by charlotte coaches is insanity.


Why would Brandon Miller care or be affected by LaMelo taking 30 shots instead of 20 shots? You think Brandon specifically is out there wringing his hands about Taj Gibson and Tidjane Salaun not getting more chances? lol. and i'm not just naming random guys for comedic effect these are likely to be the starters playing alongside them tonight (or Moussa Diabate and Cody Martin which is essentially the same thing), along with Josh Green lol

we need both of them handling as much offense as they can. even more now with Grant being out for the year


the pg taking an unprecedented number of shots leads to guys standing around and watching. that's just a reality. guys don't move because they don't have confidence they are going to get look at any given moment.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#774 » by KembaWalker » Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:25 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
KembaWalker wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
the issue isn't the number of shots Miller or anybody else is getting, it's standing around watching the point guard jack up 25 shots every night. you can't make teammates better when as a PG you are taking more shots that Kobe ever took (with the exception of one season). what lamelo is doing and being allowed to do by charlotte coaches is insanity.


Why would Brandon Miller care or be affected by LaMelo taking 30 shots instead of 20 shots? You think Brandon specifically is out there wringing his hands about Taj Gibson and Tidjane Salaun not getting more chances? lol. and i'm not just naming random guys for comedic effect these are likely to be the starters playing alongside them tonight (or Moussa Diabate and Cody Martin which is essentially the same thing), along with Josh Green lol

we need both of them handling as much offense as they can. even more now with Grant being out for the year


the pg taking an unprecedented number of shots leads to guys standing around and watching. that's just a reality. guys don't move because they don't have confidence they are going to get look at any given moment.


I don't really understand. We need to give Taj Gibson and Moussa Diabate more passes and shots instead of LaMelo Ball to improve our offense? They'll just..get super engaged and cutting for open baskets that they are apparently capable of doing now but not doing because LaMelo's cancerous refusal to do anything but chuck shots is preventing their offensive breakouts? And doing this would be a better system for developing Brandon Miller who is getting all the shots and minutes he can handle lately? I'm pretty skeptical.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#775 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:40 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
Risacher was 18 y/o playing a specific role on a team full of grown men in a professional league. Miller was on a stacked team and 20 y/o as a freshmen in college

Miller>Risacher let it go man.

Miller dropped 41 in a college basketball game. Do you know how hard it is to drop those kind of points in a college basketball game?

Risacher has yet to show that kind of scoring ability. When Risacher shows a more consistent handle and shot creation off the dribble I will gladly compare him to Miller.


Risacher scored over 20 points a handful of times as an 18 y/o playing professionally. Do you know how hard it is to drop those kind of points in a professional league? When Risacher is 21 y/o like Miller we'll see where we stand

Risacher looks like a bust so far. Nothing like Miller lol
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#776 » by FarBeyondDriven » Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:51 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Miller>Risacher let it go man.

Miller dropped 41 in a college basketball game. Do you know how hard it is to drop those kind of points in a college basketball game?

Risacher has yet to show that kind of scoring ability. When Risacher shows a more consistent handle and shot creation off the dribble I will gladly compare him to Miller.


Risacher scored over 20 points a handful of times as an 18 y/o playing professionally. Do you know how hard it is to drop those kind of points in a professional league? When Risacher is 21 y/o like Miller we'll see where we stand

Risacher looks like a bust so far. Nothing like Miller lol


cool story bro. Almost as good as your Flagg takes :lol:
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#777 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:59 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
Risacher scored over 20 points a handful of times as an 18 y/o playing professionally. Do you know how hard it is to drop those kind of points in a professional league? When Risacher is 21 y/o like Miller we'll see where we stand

Risacher looks like a bust so far. Nothing like Miller lol


cool story bro. Almost as good as your Flagg takes :lol:

What Flagg takes?

Calling Harper the best freshman in the country so far is a fact not a take. Did I disrespect Flagg in your mind?


I mean weird you bring up Flagg when I was commenting on your ridiculous Risacher and Miller comparison. Now that was a bad take. :lol:
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#778 » by FarBeyondDriven » Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:22 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Risacher looks like a bust so far. Nothing like Miller lol


cool story bro. Almost as good as your Flagg takes :lol:

What Flagg takes?

Calling Harper the best freshman in the country so far is a fact not a take. Did I disrespect Flagg in your mind?


I mean weird you bring up Flagg when I was commenting on your ridiculous Risacher and Miller comparison. Now that was a bad take. :lol:


calling any rookie, regardless of age, but especially a 19 y/o European playing in America for the first time, a bust, or claiming they look like a bust, before we've even hit January, is a bad take. I know you're just trolling and farming for engagement and I shouldn't bother but sometimes it needs to be countered so nobody else reading this takes it serious.
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Re: Brandon Miller - Alabama 

Post#779 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:37 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
cool story bro. Almost as good as your Flagg takes :lol:

What Flagg takes?

Calling Harper the best freshman in the country so far is a fact not a take. Did I disrespect Flagg in your mind?


I mean weird you bring up Flagg when I was commenting on your ridiculous Risacher and Miller comparison. Now that was a bad take. :lol:


calling any rookie, regardless of age, but especially a 19 y/o European playing in America for the first time, a bust, or claiming they look like a bust, before we've even hit January, is a bad take. I know you're just trolling and farming for engagement and I shouldn't bother but sometimes it needs to be countered so nobody else reading this takes it serious.
You need help bro like seriously.

You say I'm trolling yet you in a thread about Brandon Miller talking about Flagg. Are you a superfan or something?

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