Hansen Yang

[JRoy]

Worst performance of summer league from yang but still 3 jawdropping bounce passes. Every pass he makes is a bounce pass. Might go down as best bounce passer in nba history. Most use their height for overhead passes, but it also gives vision for the bounce

Second jump ability on d is so bad. His shot blocking range isnt very good if he has to move outside his radius to get there. Vertical might be worse then sorber. Don't see him having much affect on the Shai s or lebrons even if positional wise he is in a spot to give a contest

He will be attacked on d still..... but the same can be said of jokic in many of these respects. Doesn't mean he can't be great

But jokic has a much much better second jump

he's clearly gassed. He needs a lot of conditioning work this summer to get prepared for the regular season grind. I think Clingan has the same type of issues tbh. The two of them combined should give the Blazers one solid center's production and I think that's why Yang was selected despite them taking Clingan last draft, because they know for at least a couple of years neither is capable of playing 30 mpg so this will allow them each to go hard for 24 mpg.

It’s one thing to put up numbers against Summer League scrubs. It’s another to do it against rotation guys. Learning how to handle the physicality and speed of the game in the regular season will be an eye opening experience for him.

[CptCrunch]

Some strength and conditioning coach is salivating at putting this kid on a regiment with some gear.

His passing is special. He is at worst a Sengun level passer at the top of the key.

[Klomp]

Think the most likely outcome is a Brad Miller type guy which is still a great pick at 16. But he has some outlier potential due to his feel and PDX era Sabonis isnt out of the question.

There it is, that's the normalized outcome for him. I was trying to think of what an average outcome for him would look like, but this is the one that fits better than anything else I've seen. Upside plays I'd lean Sabonis or Sengun more than Jokic, but I get that people are excited. His pure size does create a somewhat higher floor for him too as long as the other basics work out for him.

[babyjax13]

I still see big Z

[JRoy]

I still see big Z

He’s more mobile than Z.

Hopefully more durable.

[BlazersBroncos]

Think the most likely outcome is a Brad Miller type guy which is still a great pick at 16. But he has some outlier potential due to his feel and PDX era Sabonis isnt out of the question.

There it is, that's the normalized outcome for him. I was trying to think of what an average outcome for him would look like, but this is the one that fits better than anything else I've seen. Upside plays I'd lean Sabonis or Sengun more than Jokic, but I get that people are excited. His pure size does create a somewhat higher floor for him too as long as the other basics work out for him.

Caveat on the Miller come is Yang should be a better 3PT shooter and shot blocker.

Think Yang can be a 1 3PTM per type guy (Never will be a high volume guy IMO, more the type to punish a defense for being left open). Brad averaged 0.2 3PTM his career and topped at 0.7.

And Yang just being bigger and IMO having better timing should eclipse Brad's 0.7 BPG career average.

But in terms of the level of player - think Brad is the middle outcome.

[EvanZ]

I still see big Z

Z was not a shooter or really much of a passer with a negative A:T ratio for his career. Yang's archetype is Marc Gasol, I don't know why people are saying anything else when it's so obvious.

[BlazersBroncos]

I still see big Z

Z was not a shooter or really much of a passer with a negative A:T ratio for his career. Yang's archetype is Marc Gasol, I don't know why people are saying anything else when it's so obvious.

I think the hesitation w/ a Marc comparison is the BBall IQ difference on D. Yang IMO isnt going to be as bad as some think, despite his athletic limitations. But Marc was a savant at overcoming his plodding ways and becoming a elite defender.

But, ya, from the passing to the meh rebounding to the floor spacing - there are a ton of similarities.

Just hard to comp Yang to someone who once led the NBA in DBPM lol.

[Klomp]

Caveat on the Miller come is Yang should be a better 3PT shooter and shot blocker.

Think Yang can be a 1 3PTM per type guy (Never will be a high volume guy IMO, more the type to punish a defense for being left open). Brad averaged 0.2 3PTM his career and topped at 0.7.

You have to consider the era in which he played. When Brook Lopez made his switch to start taking 3-pointers, Brad Miller was already 5 years out of the NBA.

[EvanZ]

I still see big Z

Z was not a shooter or really much of a passer with a negative A:T ratio for his career. Yang's archetype is Marc Gasol, I don't know why people are saying anything else when it's so obvious.

I think the hesitation w/ a Marc comparison is the BBall IQ difference on D. Yang IMO isnt going to be as bad as some think, despite his athletic limitations. But Marc was a savant at overcoming his plodding ways and becoming a elite defender.

But, ya, from the passing to the meh rebounding to the floor spacing - there are a ton of similarities.

Just hard to comp Yang to someone who once led the NBA in DBPM lol.

Do you remember Gasol early in his career? He was awful on D. Similar to Brook Lopez. It took both of them a long time to get that defensive rep. I think Yang will be like that. Might struggle his first few years but he's too smart not to figure it out.

[BlazersBroncos]

Z was not a shooter or really much of a passer with a negative A:T ratio for his career. Yang's archetype is Marc Gasol, I don't know why people are saying anything else when it's so obvious.

I think the hesitation w/ a Marc comparison is the BBall IQ difference on D. Yang IMO isnt going to be as bad as some think, despite his athletic limitations. But Marc was a savant at overcoming his plodding ways and becoming a elite defender.

But, ya, from the passing to the meh rebounding to the floor spacing - there are a ton of similarities.

Just hard to comp Yang to someone who once led the NBA in DBPM lol.

Do you remember Gasol early in his career? He was awful on D. Similar to Brook Lopez. It took both of them a long time to get that defensive rep. I think Yang will be like that. Might struggle his first few years but he's too smart not to figure it out.

Dont remember that really - good call.

[NO-KG-AI]

Guys that are super basketball smart and have great vision figure it out defensively if they have any sort of tool to work with. He might not end up Gasol level, because that’s also an effort, conditioning, etc thing. I think he can make it work, and I’m glad teams sre like rediscovering how to make giant C’s work all over again lol.

[SNPA]

Think the most likely outcome is a Brad Miller type guy which is still a great pick at 16. But he has some outlier potential due to his feel and PDX era Sabonis isnt out of the question.

There it is, that's the normalized outcome for him. I was trying to think of what an average outcome for him would look like, but this is the one that fits better than anything else I've seen. Upside plays I'd lean Sabonis or Sengun more than Jokic, but I get that people are excited. His pure size does create a somewhat higher floor for him too as long as the other basics work out for him.

Caveat on the Miller come is Yang should be a better 3PT shooter and shot blocker.

Think Yang can be a 1 3PTM per type guy (Never will be a high volume guy IMO, more the type to punish a defense for being left open). Brad averaged 0.2 3PTM his career and topped at 0.7.

And Yang just being bigger and IMO having better timing should eclipse Brad's 0.7 BPG career average.

But in terms of the level of player - think Brad is the middle outcome.

Nice. We’re already at middle outcome is two time all star, upper echelon big man passer.

[BlazersBroncos]

There it is, that's the normalized outcome for him. I was trying to think of what an average outcome for him would look like, but this is the one that fits better than anything else I've seen. Upside plays I'd lean Sabonis or Sengun more than Jokic, but I get that people are excited. His pure size does create a somewhat higher floor for him too as long as the other basics work out for him.

Caveat on the Miller come is Yang should be a better 3PT shooter and shot blocker.

Think Yang can be a 1 3PTM per type guy (Never will be a high volume guy IMO, more the type to punish a defense for being left open). Brad averaged 0.2 3PTM his career and topped at 0.7.

And Yang just being bigger and IMO having better timing should eclipse Brad's 0.7 BPG career average.

But in terms of the level of player - think Brad is the middle outcome.

Nice. We’re already at middle outcome is two time all star, upper echelon big man passer.

I guess not middle - but I feel thats his likely ceiling with a small % chance he breaks the ceiling.

Something like 20% bust, 20% some type of Olynyk adjacent type, 55% Brad Miller, 5% better than Brad Miller.

Know thats just full nonsense but it makes sense to me lol.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

One thing I noticed in the SL game where Yang got hot from 3 was that he was not very shy about looking for that shot. I think if he has any consistency with it he will more than make teams pay for leaving him open.