Good college players to avoid come draft time.

[bleu]

Most of you guys haven't even heard of this guy, but watch out for Jaycee Carrol from Utah State. He's got one of the sweetest shots I've ever seen.

[jumanji]

Kevin Love

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Kevin Love is a great player, will be a better pro than most think.

[BMiller52]

Roy Hibbert. The guy is so freakin slow it's funny. I mean Eddy Curry could run a 40 yard dash before Hibbert does a post move(but only if there's a cheeseburger at the finish line). But seriously the guy is so slow and predictable I feel like I'm watching a movie in slow motion. He's big as hell but he's skinny as hell at the same time, I don't see him being a great post player in the NBA for those reasons(skinny and slow). He can block some shots but he is too slow to rotate over IMO and be an effective NBA shotblocker. Reminds me a lot of a skinny Ilgauskas. I just don't like his game at all.

I actually like Hansbrough's game. He reminds me some of David Lee.

[KF10]

Tyler Hansbrough.

[PhilipNelsonFan]

Sean May's been an effective player when able to get on the floor, though. His main problem has been staying healthy. That was a knock on him even in college, and one that Hansbrough doesn't have on him.

Really? I haven't seen Sean May a lot but in the limited exposure I've had to him as a Bobcat he has been absolutely dreadful. He's slow, fat, and completely incapable of affecting the game offensively. He'll use his wide body to grab rebounds but outside of that he's pretty useless.

Caveat draftor on Jerryd Bayless; I fear the team that picks him will not be able to effectively mesh him with a backcourt mate.

[wilt]

May had 12/7 in 23 minutes his 2nd "year" (35 games) in the league on 50% shooting and a positive A/TO ration. That doesn

[The_Pope]

I think Kevin Love will have a good pro career, but he shouldn't be a high lotto pick. Being slow, fat and unathletic is quite a hinderance at the NBA level.

[skiz2]

List your guys who are solid college players but shouldn't be drafted by an NBA team.

My start goes to Trent Plaisted.

He's good at the college level playing against week big men in the MWC. He has good athleticism for a guy his size but his post moves are very predictable and would be easily dealt with in the NBA.

Let him go through the draft, invite him to summer camp but don't waste a draft pick on this guy.

Who are your players to be weary of?

I disagree completely. He has had monster games this season against good competion. 24 points 17 rebounds against UNC. 21 points 12 rebounds against Louisville. 17 points 8 rebounds against MSU. And he would have had a similar game against A&M if his team had found him quicker.

Trent is extremely athletic for his size. He has the quickest post moves I have seen in a post player in a long time. He has great post moves I don't see where you get the predictable part from. It is rumored he runs a 4.6 forty yard dash.

I think he will be a solid starter in the NBA, a consistant 10 point 6 rebound career for the most part which is real bang for your buck for a late first round early second round pick.

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Really? I haven't seen Sean May a lot but in the limited exposure I've had to him as a Bobcat he has been absolutely dreadful. He's slow, fat, and completely incapable of affecting the game offensively. He'll use his wide body to grab rebounds but outside of that he's pretty useless.

Caveat draftor on Jerryd Bayless; I fear the team that picks him will not be able to effectively mesh him with a backcourt mate.

I didn't say he's been elegant, but it's hard to categorize him as ineffective when he's been on the court.

He does a good job getting to the foul line and knocks down his shots from there, rebounds and scores at a decent clip, and his FG% took a decided turn in the right direction last year. I'm not saying he was a great pick in the lottery, just that he's been halfway decent when he's been healthy.

My issue lies more with the comparison with Hansbrough to him, as Hansbrough doesn't care the injury or conditioning concerns that May does, and May's been reasonably effective when he's been healthy despite the conditioning red flag.

[wilt]

May had 12/7 in 23 minutes his 2nd "year" (35 games) in the league on 50% shooting and a positive A/TO ration. That doesn

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The 50% shooting and seven rebounds a game are definite positives. I dunno about a positive A/TO ratio...can you even have a negative one?

Maybe misleading terms by me, but i mean that he has more assists than Turnovers while most big guys tend to have more Tos than Assists, making their Assists to Turnover ratio a negative one.
If he doesn

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Really? I haven't seen Sean May a lot but in the limited exposure I've had to him as a Bobcat he has been absolutely dreadful. He's slow, fat, and completely incapable of affecting the game offensively. He'll use his wide body to grab rebounds but outside of that he's pretty useless.

Not sure what you were watching. He's got great low post moves - ala Boozer, and his per minute numbers were real good for a young big.

I would stay away from Hansbrough.

I would do what it takes to get Love (so to speak). Love should be a much better NBA player than Hansbrough.

I would pass on Deandre Jordan - simply because I wouldn't have the patience for a very high pick to take so long to develop into an adequate NBA player. Even though Thabeet is also raw, he can still contribute with his defense.

I'd pass on the UNC guards, as I don't think their skills make up for their lack of size.

[surflawyer]

M. Speights from Florida. As a Gator Fan I love him and think he needs another year at least to develope. Next year Florida has a few 7'0" guys coming in to play center and Speights will probably got to the PF position where he would play in the NBA. Then he can be judged but right now I think he would be a bad pick.

WRT Lofton, he is a second round pick at best for a team that utilizes a point forward. He is a pure shooter not a point guard. As a MAGIC fan I see Jameer Nelson in Lofton.

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The 50% shooting and seven rebounds a game are definite positives. I dunno about a positive A/TO ratio...can you even have a negative one?

But, again, 50% shooting is a bit misleading when, say, May goes 2-4 but makes eight free throws. Which, of course, is what you'd ideally want in your big guy: the ability to challenge opposing big guys.

You and horace provide good arguments but I'm still not convinced that Sean May will ever be worth his draft selection; maybe when he gets healthy he proves me wrong.

I'm actually with you on this one, but for me that's mostly due to his inability to stay healthy. Like I said, my main problem is with holding up May as a black eye for Hansbrough, when May's been fairly effective when on the court, and the two culprits responsible for keeping him off the court (conditioning, injury-prone), haven't really been question marks for Hansbrough.