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Post#21 » by Cammo101 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:31 pm

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You said Al Thornton was the safest pick in the 2007 draft? For what slot? 14th?

With Brook Lopez we're talking about a guy that could be a top 3 selection. =high bust factor.


For any slot. I thought Thornton was the least likely player in last years draft to become a bust. He might not be the best player in last years draft, but he was the most NBA ready.
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Post#22 » by GJense4181 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:03 pm

^But bust status is partially defined by where you were selected.
If Kwame Brown was a 2nd round pick we'd think that he was doing quite well for himself.
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Post#23 » by Cammo101 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:15 pm

GJense4181 wrote:^But bust status is partially defined by where you were selected.
If Kwame Brown was a 2nd round pick we'd think that he was doing quite well for himself.


For top 5 guys I'd have said Horford. He lacks the upside of Oden or Durant, but he was NBA ready from the start.
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Post#24 » by A.J. » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:34 am

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Post#25 » by sipclip » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:06 am

bill curley II wrote:OJ Mayonaisse if he goes in the top 5. His shot selection is reminiscent of JR Smith, who's extremely talented but will never be a good starter b/c of his chucking, and only works out well with free flowing offenses like Denver b/c his shot selection doesn't stand out too badly with the rest of his teammates. But Mayo's not even as good a shooter as Smith anyways, and in his rookie year, if he goes to a team that allows him to be the star, he might put up historically bad shooting percentages and not bring much else to the table to boot.





Obviously someone that hasn't seen OJ play. His shot selection is actually pretty good and he's an excellent passer and defender. In the long run I look for him to develope into an all nba caliber defender.
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Post#26 » by -bob- » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:10 am

I don't think there is a 25 year old seven footer with TRex arms in this draft.
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Post#27 » by Fire BK » Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:39 am

OJ Mayo.

Bust. Bust. Bust.

Same with Bayless. These will be chuckers.

JR Smith is a good comparison. But another JR comes to my mind. JR Rider.

And yes, I've seen Mayo play, my man.
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Post#28 » by cdash » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:02 am

Mayo will score 20+ per game in the NBA within 4 years of entering the league. Just because he isnt the next LeBron (as the hype would have led one to believe...), doesnt mean he wont be a solid pro.
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Post#29 » by Smills91 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:19 pm

JaVale McGee if he goes in the lotto. This guy will be bust city.
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Post#30 » by dundundun » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:53 pm

Donte Greene

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Post#31 » by Bucky O'Hare » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:58 pm

JaVale McGee. Average production in a weak conference does not impress me.
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Post#32 » by sipclip » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:56 pm

Fire BK wrote:OJ Mayo.

Bust. Bust. Bust.

Same with Bayless. These will be chuckers.

JR Smith is a good comparison. But another JR comes to my mind. JR Rider.

And yes, I've seen Mayo play, my man.



You obviously havn't if you want to spout nonsense like that. Some of you guys read a few articles by some idiots writers who really don't know anything about Mayo and somehow he turns into this major chucker that's a bad person. OJ Mayo has the most well rounded game of anyone in the draft and arguably the least bust potential.
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Post#33 » by Cassius » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:20 pm

Why all the hate on Donte Greene?
I_Like_Dirt wrote:The whole comparison to Kevin McHale is ridiculously close, imo... And that's without more hilarious aspects of the comparison, e.g. if Wally Sczerbiak were 7 feet tall with the slower reflexes that came with the additional height, he'd be Bargnani.
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Post#34 » by bill curley II » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:45 pm

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Obviously someone that hasn't seen OJ play. His shot selection is actually pretty good and he's an excellent passer and defender. In the long run I look for him to develope into an all nba caliber defender.


Uh yeah I have watched him play, a lot. He lacked the ability to get to the basket and forced up bad shots early in the shot clock. I didn't say he was a bad passer or defender at all, and I have mentioned before that I was pleasantly surprised at his defense this year. But how can you justify 44% shooting and 3.5 to's per game? Oh and don't even get me started on how much his numbers deteorated against actual, top 25 competition. And don't give me that Tim Floyd's offense excuse either.
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Post#35 » by Fire BK » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:04 am

bill curley II wrote: Uh yeah I have watched him play, a lot. He lacked the ability to get to the basket and forced up bad shots early in the shot clock. I didn't say he was a bad passer or defender at all, and I have mentioned before that I was pleasantly surprised at his defense this year. But how can you justify 44% shooting and 3.5 to's per game? Oh and don't even get me started on how much his numbers deteorated against actual, top 25 competition. And don't give me that Tim Floyd's offense excuse either.


+1

Hold the Mayo. His shot selection is awful. He's a streetballer. JR Rider.
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Post#36 » by FNQ » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:17 am

Mayo, Hibbert are my top 2....

As for someone mentioning Al Thornton, he really excels in situations that don't matter... all he can do is score... no passing, no defense, no team mentality.... the screaming masses love him because of their love affair with PPG... he's not a player.

I dont think anyone's going to flop as colossally as Araujo this year... but Mayo almost fits the bill (lotto pick), and Hibbert almost does as well (stiff).
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Post#37 » by sipclip » Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:41 am

Mayo is the most well rounded player in the entire draft and is probably the least likely player to be a bust. He's not going to be a superstar player like Lebron and Kobe but he will be at worst a prime Eddie Jones type player and the peak potential of Mitch Richmond.

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