2007 Draft (picks 12-17)

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Post#21 » by riehldeal » Wed May 14, 2008 1:53 am

ChrisTheFuturePaul wrote:Dont sleep on Julian Wright, I think hes gonna come up huge as Peja declines in New Orleans


Yeah, but they really screwed the pooch by not taking my boi Big Al
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Post#22 » by -bob- » Wed May 14, 2008 2:15 am

The Hornets aren't exactly kicking themselves passing on a soon to be 25 year old low% chucker for JW.
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Post#23 » by riehldeal » Wed May 14, 2008 2:26 am

-bob- wrote:The Hornets aren't exactly kicking themselves passing on a soon to be 25 year old low% chucker for JW.


Thornton is only scratching the surface of the player he will become.....As the game starts to slow down for him following his rookie year, watch out

Given the rest of their team (CP3 will tend to help), yes I will give you that the Hornets will never actually get all broken up about it BUT they should have taken Al, no question.....on top of his offense, Al is an excellent defender and a powerful rebounder
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Post#24 » by Smills91 » Wed May 14, 2008 2:28 am

You gotta give each class at LEAST 3 years before you can fairly evaluate who should have gone where, and even then that's still a VERY small sample size.
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Post#25 » by gswhoops » Wed May 14, 2008 3:04 pm

Smills91 wrote:You gotta give each class at LEAST 3 years before you can fairly evaluate who should have gone where, and even then that's still a VERY small sample size.

Ditto.

The whole concept of this thread is flawed because the 5-11 guys contain a lot more high-upside projects...no one expected guys like Yi, Wright, Hawes etc. to be studs in their first season. With the exception of Thad (who has been surprisingly good for a 19 y/o) all of the guys who went 12-17 were mostly NBA-ready types, guys with a few years of college under their belts who LOGICALLY should have better rookie seasons then the college frosh.
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Post#26 » by trickydik » Wed May 14, 2008 4:32 pm

i would go as far as even 4 years in the nba , tracy mcgrady is a prime example , he was traded from toronto to orlando on his 4th year in the nba


1st Year 7.0 pts 4.2 reb 1.5 ast
2nd Year 9.3 pts 5.7 reb 2.3 ast
3rd Year 15.4 pts 6.3 reb 3.3 ast

4th Year 26.8 pts 7.5 reb 4.6 ast



in marvin's defense at the time of the draft he was considered the 1st pick in the draft with bogut as #2 , the hawks just took the BPA , yes it hasn't panned out so far but he finished his 3rd year with the following stats

14.8 pts 5.7 reb 1.7 ast

just shy in each category under T-mac , the jury is still out on marvin he still has a shot at being something special.
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Post#27 » by Liqourish » Thu May 15, 2008 2:22 pm

gswhoops wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Ditto.

The whole concept of this thread is flawed because the 5-11 guys contain a lot more high-upside projects...no one expected guys like Yi, Wright, Hawes etc. to be studs in their first season. With the exception of Thad (who has been surprisingly good for a 19 y/o) all of the guys who went 12-17 were mostly NBA-ready types, guys with a few years of college under their belts who LOGICALLY should have better rookie seasons then the college frosh.


I disagree. Al Thornton/Thad Young weren't expected to be good right away, Stuckey wasn't even on most peoples radars and when the news broke about Dumars liking the kid, people thought he was making a mistake by "reaching" for him.

Yi was expected to dominate right away (at whatever age he is) and Noah/Brewer were coming off back to back national championships. Acie Law was highly regarded and thought of as NBA ready.

Maybe it's too soon to judge the draft class after one year... but this theory of NBA readiness is just wrong.
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Post#28 » by NbdyBeatsTheWiz » Thu May 15, 2008 4:01 pm

PhilasFinest wrote:i couldnt agree more... 12-17 is def better.

Thaddeus Young was the steal of the draft.


Al Thornton is right there with him, if not a bigger steal. Both are gonna be studs.
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Post#29 » by SactownHrtBrks8 » Thu May 15, 2008 4:25 pm

Liqourish wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I disagree. Al Thornton/Thad Young weren't expected to be good right away, Stuckey wasn't even on most peoples radars and when the news broke about Dumars liking the kid, people thought he was making a mistake by "reaching" for him.

Yi was expected to dominate right away (at whatever age he is) and Noah/Brewer were coming off back to back national championships. Acie Law was highly regarded and thought of as NBA ready.

Maybe it's too soon to judge the draft class after one year... but this theory of NBA readiness is just wrong.


Disagree with you on that concept, people thought Thornton was one of the most NBA ready players in the draft, at least of the offensive end,l everyone knew he could score... his age and upside was the reason he didn't get drafted high and the fact that he is a tweener
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Post#30 » by Cruel_Ruin » Thu May 15, 2008 5:35 pm

Liqourish wrote:Rodney Stuckey, Al Thornton and Thaddeus Young made the NBA All-Rookie teams. None of the 6-11 draft picks were selected.


So? Stucky and Thornton were more NBA ready, but they don't have the upside of Hawes/Wright/Noah. The exceptions were Young, who was surprisingly good at 19, and Brewer/Law, who were surprisingly bad.
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Post#31 » by riehldeal » Thu May 15, 2008 5:42 pm

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So? Stucky and Thornton were more NBA ready, but they don't have the upside of Hawes/Wright/Noah. The exceptions were Young, who was surprisingly good at 19, and Brewer/Law, who were surprisingly bad.


People are really underestimating the untapped potential left in Big Al.....he is going to be scary good in a couple years
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Post#32 » by princeofpalace » Thu May 15, 2008 11:51 pm

Actually, Stuckey wasnt considered NBA ready. People had serious concerns if he could immediately translate his game to the NBA from coming from a mid major.

Acie Law, Al THorton, Joakim Noah, Corey Brewer, Yi, Julain Wright were considered the most NBA ready. B Wright fell because he is such a work in progress, same goes for T. Young. All the remaining guys still have considerable upside.

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