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Post#21 » by BigSlam » Thu May 22, 2008 2:25 pm

ChrisTheFuturePaul wrote:1. Why Randolph so high? does he fit with what the Wolves are doing?

2. I think the Sonics would take a PG over another center to develop. They've wasted too many picks on project centers, Brook Lopez is by no means a finished product.

3. Hornets won't pass on Walker, I hope, lol


1. I think that during workouts Randolph is going to wow a lot of people and fly up the board. With Big Al being such a great post scorer I don't think they need another big who would clogg the paint and get in his way. Because of that, Randolph would be a great fit because he can play the high post with his range and ability to put the ball on the floor all while helping Big Al on the boards and with his help D.

2. They already have Ridnour and Watson - who are both fairly cheap and serviceable. All they need to do is know where and when to get Durant the ball. While they have wasted a lot of picks on C's, none of them are an offensive post threat who can get them easy baskets when they need it. Sene is super, super raw and defensive only. Petro is super raw. Swift is always having horrible luck with injuries. They seem intent on playing Durant at the 2 spot so a line up of Ridnour-Durant-Green-Wilcox-Lopez is a nice fit.

3. Do you think the Hornets will keep Wells? If so, I don't know if they would go with Walker. You seem to be missing a brusier type who can bang and intimidate - which is Dorsey's bread and butter.
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Post#22 » by BigSlam » Thu May 22, 2008 2:29 pm

zike_42 wrote:No way New York pass up Mayo, he would be huge in NY.


He's almost an exact dupliate of Crawford and they don't have a PG. I would have thought a PG would MUCH higher on their list of importance?

To show you how fickle things can be though, I honestly thought about putting Jordan at the Knicks pick but instead I have him slipping!!

Zach and Eddie are horrible together and they need a defensive stopper/rebounder. If he panned out, New York would fall in love with Jordan very quickly and while he slowly develops, the Knicks could work on trying to move one of Zach and Eddie over the next few years and by that time have a ready made Jordan to step into the starting line up.
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Post#23 » by BigSlam » Thu May 22, 2008 2:32 pm

loflin3hree5ive wrote:Clips would take OJ over Gordon 100 times out of 90 should they get the chance.


Ya, I tossed that around a lot. The other thing I wondered is if you might take a flyer on DJ Augustin to try and lock your PG spot down? I can see the benefits for both OJ and Gordon on the Clipps roster - I just felt that Gordon might be the better fit?
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Post#24 » by BigSlam » Thu May 22, 2008 2:43 pm

legacyinthemakin89c wrote:Why do the Wolves take Randolph when they already have Brewer and Jefferson?

Lopez should be a universal lock at that pick.

The only other potential pick I could see being made there is Mayo, and that would be if the Wolves decide they want to build around a core of Mayo, Jefferson and Brewer, which I think would be an incredible base for a franchise.


Because Brewer plays the 3, Randolph would play the 4 and Big Al would play the 5.

I think that Lopez and Big Al would get in the way of each other. I think they need to build around Big Al and find a big who compliments his game, not takes away from it.

Why pick Mayo when they have Foye?

Bassy - Foye - Brewer - Randolph - Jefferson is a pretty increadible (young) base too and each player compliments the others!
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Post#25 » by BigSlam » Thu May 22, 2008 2:45 pm

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Greene has reasonable size compared to Arthur but is 25 pounds lighter then Speights at the same height. Speights also averages one more rebound and as many blocks as Greene in 12 minutes less per game.

So, I wouldn't really say Greene has comparable size to a guy like Speights or is as good a shotblocker/rebounder.


He is lighter, but is also younger and has the type of body that looks like it could easily add muscle.

Again, Greene is a MUCH better shooter than Speights - which with the up and down ball that you guys run, will be a huge advantage.
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Post#26 » by BigSlam » Thu May 22, 2008 2:47 pm

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Dwight is our defensive anchor. We do not need a star defender, just an upgrade over Shard. Koufos can rebound and defend without hurting us offensively. His ability to hit open jumpers would be key to keeping pressure off of Dwight.


For sure - and Dwight is a stud at it, but you can't expect him to play 48mpg!! I think that Lopez would fill the role that Foyle was suposed to fill (but didn't!!). I do see that Koufus would be a good fit too, I just think he is a little shot hungry and would take away from Turk and Shard. Lopez is one of those guys who will know and accept his role and play to that for the good of the team.
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Post#27 » by BigSlam » Thu May 22, 2008 2:57 pm

DanTown8587 wrote:I think Bulls go Rose, but then we get interesting.
1. Why does Minny take Randolph (a 3/4 tweener) when they have Brewer/Jefferson almost locked in there?
2. How the Sonics gonna take ANOTHER big considering how muddled their back court is?
3. Gordon OVER Mayo? In LA? No way Sterling makes that pick.
4. The Suns, a veteran title contending team, takes the biggest project in the entire draft?
5. The Hornets take a non-offensive PF when they need either C or SG help?
6. The Pistons take a 2/3 when all their locked up young guys are 1/2/3 in Stuckey, Prince, Hamilton and Afflao? Considering they have no C on the roster for next year under 35?


1. I think the Bulls seriously lack a post scorer. A guy like Beasley would make you forget about the poor season that Hinrich had because Beasley would make him look better. I like the teaming of Beasley and Noah with Deng at the 3.

2. Because none of the bigs they currenlty have on the roster have any ounce of a post game. Lopez will command doubles which equates to Durant getting easier looks (if Lopez shares the rock!!)

3. Ya, I tossed and turned over this one. I can see Mayo going to the Clipps.

4. They have to get at least SOMETHING out of Shaq!! They have Shaq take Jordan under his wing over the next two years and teach him so that in two years, he is a ready replacement at the 5 for the Suns and along with Amare strike fear throughout the league for the next decade!!

5. They are pretty soft inside. Chandler isn't that tuff, West is a touch player and Wright is coming along well but banging isn't really his thing. They nastiest guy they have is Bonzi!! Agreed they need a SG, but all they'll have to do is target a Josh Childress or a Mikeal Pietrus over the summer to fill that void. They have Andersen back so he could back up Chandler at the 5. I really think they need a "grunt" guy - which is Dorsey's MO.

6. They have Amir and they have Maxiell. They have Afflalo to back Rip but no one to really back Prince. Javis Hayes? Yuk!! Walker compliments Afflalo with Afflalo being a shooter/outside player and Walker a slasher/insdie player. Teamed with Maxiell, he and Walker make one explosive team!!
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Post#28 » by sportsrock37 » Thu May 22, 2008 2:58 pm

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For sure - and Dwight is a stud at it, but you can't expect him to play 48mpg!! I think that Lopez would fill the role that Foyle was suposed to fill (but didn't!!). I do see that Koufus would be a good fit too, I just think he is a little shot hungry and would take away from Turk and Shard. Lopez is one of those guys who will know and accept his role and play to that for the good of the team.


Battie's coming back, with him, Gortat, and Foyle I think we have enough big bodies where that isn't the biggest weakness. Right now the only SGs we have on our roster is Bogans and JJ and that was probably the worst SG unit in the league last year. Not t omention Jameer is our only returning PG as of now. I expect to go PG or SG with our first pick unless a intriguing big slips to us. I would go CDR or Rush with our #22 pick and then try to buy an early 2nd to get a guy like Hendrix. Either them or Chalmers.

If we did get a big though, Koufos does seem like a better fit in our offense than Lopez, because he would spread the floor for Dwight and as evidenced by the Trevor Ariza for Brian Cook and Mo Evans trade, SVG loves PF's that can shoot.
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Post#29 » by princeofpalace » Thu May 22, 2008 3:06 pm

BigSlam wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

6. They have Amir and they have Maxiell. They have Afflalo to back Rip but no one to really back Prince. Javis Hayes? Yuk!! Walker compliments Afflalo with Afflalo being a shooter/outside player and Walker a slasher/insdie player. Teamed with Maxiell, he and Walker make one explosive team!!


The general consensus is that neither Maxiel nor Amir have the size necessary to play C, in addition, the former is highly inconsistent while the latter is relatively unproven. The C position remains one of Detroits biggest weaknesses although the lack of SF is the primary concern. Considering the fact that Rip Hamilton seems to have been relegated as Tays primary backup with Hayes and Hermann being glued to the bench, Detroit needs to draft a SF. I was really down on Walker but have recently read a lot of positive reviews on his workouts, if he can continue to impress at workouts and prove that his ACL injury is no longer a concern then Id have no qualms seeing him as a Piston.
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Post#30 » by BigSlam » Thu May 22, 2008 3:26 pm

sportsrock37 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Battie's coming back, with him, Gortat, and Foyle I think we have enough big bodies where that isn't the biggest weakness. Right now the only SGs we have on our roster is Bogans and JJ and that was probably the worst SG unit in the league last year. Not t omention Jameer is our only returning PG as of now. I expect to go PG or SG with our first pick unless a intriguing big slips to us. I would go CDR or Rush with our #22 pick and then try to buy an early 2nd to get a guy like Hendrix. Either them or Chalmers.

If we did get a big though, Koufos does seem like a better fit in our offense than Lopez, because he would spread the floor for Dwight and as evidenced by the Trevor Ariza for Brian Cook and Mo Evans trade, SVG loves PF's that can shoot.


Solid point. I had neglected how thin you are at the 2 spot. In retrospect maybe Weaver would be better for you? His size would offset Jameer's lack of size and he would help with ball movement. Plus his on ball D would be a huge advantage. Either him or Lee - who would also give you solid on ball D, but better outside shooting (although with Shard and Turk I think you have long range shooting covered so Weaver might be better?)
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Post#31 » by BigSlam » Thu May 22, 2008 3:28 pm

princeofpalace wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
The general consensus is that neither Maxiel nor Amir have the size necessary to play C, in addition, the former is highly inconsistent while the latter is relatively unproven. The C position remains one of Detroits biggest weaknesses although the lack of SF is the primary concern. Considering the fact that Rip Hamilton seems to have been relegated as Tays primary backup with Hayes and Hermann being glued to the bench, Detroit needs to draft a SF. I was really down on Walker but have recently read a lot of positive reviews on his workouts, if he can continue to impress at workouts and prove that his ACL injury is no longer a concern then Id have no qualms seeing him as a Piston.


Amir is such a kid. I really think he has the potential to play the 5 - and every year he seems to have grown a little more!! Maxiell, while not the perfect size, is an athletic freak (I still shudder every time I see that Chandler block!!) and can hold down the 4 spot against most teams.

Before the ACL issues, Walker was touted as a top 10 pick. I think getting him this low in the draft - especially with him filling a position of need for you, would be a steal.
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Post#32 » by legacyinthemakin89c » Fri May 23, 2008 4:40 am

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Jefferson isn't a center, nor should he be playing center, especially in the West. People can argue how much he played there this year, but look how bad the team was. Jefferson is a 4. He has the skill set of a 4, he has the body of a 4 and the mindset of a 4.

Lopez gives them a guy who will keep the defenses honest, who can rebound extremely well, he gives them a solid 2nd option in the post and fills they're biggest need.

Randolph doesn't have the strength yet to play the 4 spot in the west. He will get absolutly dominated by Gasol, Amare, Duncan, Brand, West, etc.

The only two logical picks in my opinion for the T-Wolves is either Lopez, who fills a need and gives them they're starting center next to Jefferson for as long as this core stays together. Or Mayo, who gives them a great outside, inside combo. With the potential of Mayo and Jefferson, they could become the next Kobe-Shaq light, with a great glue guy like Brewer running the break with them.
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Post#33 » by andyhop » Fri May 23, 2008 6:25 am

^

Thats a much better explanation of the Wolves needs and likely pick than the OP.

The Wolves need either a guard , despite all the talk of their biggest need being a C their backcourt was the real weakness of the team last year,or a Center who can anchor their defense and help out both Al and the Guards every time they allow someone to blow past them.

Mayo or Lopez fit the bill, Randolph doesn't come close to either filling a need or being the BPA who you can't ignore despite not filling a need.
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Post#34 » by gswhoops » Fri May 23, 2008 1:30 pm

BigSlam wrote:Again, Greene is a MUCH better shooter than Speights - which with the up and down ball that you guys run, will be a huge advantage.

I don't deny that Greene is a better shooter - but we have enough guys who will chuck it from long range. If we wanted a young 3pt specialist we could just play Belinelli some more.

Again, I like Greene and would consider him at the #14, just not over a guy like Speights who fills what we really need.
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Post#35 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Fri May 23, 2008 6:03 pm

Probably the worst mock draft ive ever seen in my life. I see its made by a bobcats fan, so hey..heres a toast to some optimism.

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