Chad Ford: Miami Likes OJ

the_bruce · Post #21 » by **the_bruce** » Fri May 23, 2008 4:17 am

When I watched the lotto all I was thinking for the Wolves was just get #3. If the wolves landed a top 3 pick they'd at least get a pick with potential to be a star. Unless McHale picks Lopez GRRRRRR?

Now I could see why MIA would give Mayo a glance, but there's no way they pass on Rose or Beasly. It just won't happen...

BMiller52 · Post #22 » by **BMiller52** » Fri May 23, 2008 6:01 am

Blame Rasho wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Tony Parker... He used to chuck threes and now he limits himself to shots in the paint and the 18 foot jumpshot.

It is just personal choice in what you do on the court. A good rebuke from a coach when they f up would solve alot of problems. Not one of those coaches would dare to sit AI down after he stupidly shoots a bad shot. Parker when he would shoot a shot that Pop didn't like, he would get a tounge lashing and a seat on the bench.

If Pop had said that to AI or Kobe they would've said "F you". He's lucky TD and Parker don't have the egos that guys like AI, SHaq, Kobe, etc. do.

Blame Rasho · Post #23 » by **Blame Rasho** » Fri May 23, 2008 6:31 am

BMiller52 wrote:If Pop had said that to AI or Kobe they would've said "F you". He's lucky TD and Parker don't have the egos that guys like AI, SHaq, Kobe, etc. do.

A player with a selfish ego would ride the bench or not be on the team... simple as that.

TheCardinal20 · Post #24 » by **TheCardinal20** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:20 pm

CelticFan101 wrote:A trade down with the TWolves makes perfect sense IMO.... Mayo is the real deal.... Never understood why people think that Rose will be a "true PG" in the NBA and Mayo won't....

Rose's Assist #s were only marginally better than Mayo's, and Mayo had to be the lead option whereas Rose played on the 2nd Best team in college basketball....

People say Rose is a much better fit for the NBA 1 because he's so athletic that he can "dunk with his elbows".... Last time I checked, there's never been a true PG that has that kind of athleticism and that poor of a jump shot.... No, those guys play a position in the NBA that we like to call the 2.... In which case, Rose is undersized.... Taking Rose over Beasley will be the worst mistake in the NBA Draft since Marvin Williams over Chris Paul....

Rose can count on one hand the number of games he has lost since the 7th grade, his ball-handling is worlds above every other draft propsect, especially Mayo's, who is quite the turnover machine, and will never be anything more than a very good combo guard.

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #25 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:49 pm

Mayo has a chance to be the best player in the draft.

Joel Embust · Post #26 » by **Joel Embust** » Fri May 23, 2008 4:04 pm

OJ Mayo = Rudy Gay of the 2008 draft class

He was hyped but suddenly became underrated because people were afraid to overhype.

Things I heard from fans about Gay that should've prevented him from going top 3, even top 5:

#1. Can't shoot the three
#2. Inconsistent mid range shot
#3. Not fast enough to be a swingman
#4. Sloppy ballhandling
#5. Can't create his own shot because of points 3 and 4.
#6. Bad passer
#7 Selfish, ego problems, doesn't want to be the go to guy

Two years in the league and he's averaging 20 ppg in the NBA, scoring in a variety of ways and slowly becoming the leader of the Grizz.

Post #27 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Fri May 23, 2008 4:05 pm

People dog Mayo for being a combo guard, but how many combo guards can effectively guard the 1 or 2?

Chucking? I think he was doing everything he was told in Tim Floyd's "offense."

Relentless88 · Post #28 » by **Relentless88** » Fri May 23, 2008 11:22 pm

princeofpalace wrote:I could easily see OJ being the best player out of this draft

Agreed. I like OJ the most out of this draft. OJ Mayo will be a great player, but I just can't see Miami passing up on Beasley or Rose.

SendEm · Post #29 » by **SendEm** » Sat May 24, 2008 9:27 am

CelticFan101 wrote:Um, k.... Would you care to expound on why you think that is "just not true".... To use the extreme example, have Larry Brown, George Karl, Mo Cheeks, or John Thompson yet been able to teach Allen Iverson the difference between a good shot and a bad shot? Please, get back to me with that answer....

Kobe has learned the difference between a good shot and a bad shot and so has Chauncey Billups. It is clear that you simply do not know what you are talking about...

SendEm · Post #30 » by **SendEm** » Sat May 24, 2008 9:30 am

Lebron James has also learned the difference between a good shot and a bad shot and he isn't even 25 yet...

_BBIB_ · Post #31 » by **_BBIB_** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:01 pm

Sonics-FAN wrote:OJ Mayo = Rudy Gay of the 2008 draft class

He was hyped but suddenly became underrated because people were afraid to overhype.

Things I heard from fans about Gay that should've prevented him from going top 3, even top 5:

#1. Can't shoot the three
#2. Inconsistent mid range shot
#3. Not fast enough to be a swingman
#4. Sloppy ballhandling
#5. Can't create his own shot because of points 3 and 4.
#6. Bad passer
#7 Selfish, ego problems, doesn't want to be the go to guy

Two years in the league and he's averaging 20 ppg in the NBA, scoring in a variety of ways and slowly becoming the leader of the Grizz.

Mayo fell because Tim Floyd's offensive system was a POS.

All they did was swing the ball around the perimeter. NO uptempo like they should have been with athletes like Jefferson and Mayo. And no creativity offensively at all.

It's funny how it seems like blasphemy of Mayo going over Rose or Beasley when before this college basketball season, it would have been blasphemy to consider those guys over Mayo, or any one for that matter.

We're talking about guy who received hype in some places before LEBRON JAMES.

He is certainly a better perimeter shooter than Rose and if he could play the PG position at the next level, Im not mad at them if they take a shot on him.

It just doesn't make sense that the Heat allegedly don't want Beasley seeing how he's a perfect fit for them. They clearly need a post presence to compliment Wade. And if they retained Marion, he's even be a better fit to compliment the versatile 3/4 tweener.

Serpo · Post #32 » by **Serpo** » Sat May 24, 2008 5:04 pm

SendEm wrote:Lebron James has also learned the difference between a good shot and a bad shot and he isn't even 25 yet...

He still takes a lot of bad shots .

Troubadour · Post #33 » by **Troubadour** » Sat May 24, 2008 10:38 pm

princeofpalace wrote:I could easily see OJ being the best player out of this draft

carrottop12 · Post #34 » by **carrottop12** » Sat May 24, 2008 10:58 pm

princeofpalace wrote:I could easily see OJ being the best player out of this draft

Absolutely agree. It would be hard to be in Mayo's position, when he was a junior in high school everyone was claiming he was going to be the next super super star in the NBA. Imagine if you were 17 and everyone was promising you money and greatness, it would be easy to start coasting a little bit in life.

I wouldn't be surprised one bit that with OJ's skill set that he eventually because the most effective player out of this draft and does turn into a true superstar.

priest · Post #35 » by **priest** » Sun May 25, 2008 12:11 am

CelticFan101 wrote:I'd still go with Beasley.... Mayo's one downfall is that he has not yet learned shot selection.... That's also one thing you cannot really teach a player, the difference between a good shot and a bad shot.... If Mayo picks that up, he goes from being mentioned in the same breath as Monta Ellis and Ben Gordon into the Dwyane Wade, Gilbert Arenas, Deron Williams category....

Why dont people realize mayo was asked to shoot a lot. who else on usc was going to shoot?