MemphisX wrote:Come on, Anthony Randolph starts on that team.
In 2 years with Real Madrid, Randolph has started in EuroLeague in 26 games, out of the 51 that he has played. Under every single NBA terminology, he's not a "starter" then.
mixerball wrote:are you watching REAL games in the same parallel universe as the rest of the world?
Anthony Randoply may straight out be the softest big man to ever play in EuroLeague. His main competition for that title is David Andersen and Nikola Mirotic, but Randoplh is right up there.
He's uber soft. He has tremendous physical talent, but he really soft.
UcanUwill wrote:You basically said its impossible to make Euroleague roster without hard work and winning mentality. How is that, you think there arent players who just riding on their talent at that level? A lot of players are under or over weight all the time, or stagnate for years, especially in European levels. And winning mentality arguments are always the worst, its intangible that we cant measure, and most of the time, ''winning mentality'' argument is just a reach when you out of arguments. Sorry, but thats my opinion.
Again, with taking what people said out of context. He was talking about being a rotation player on Real Madrid, not about being on a EuroLeague roster. Two completely different things.
You guys really need to stop this taking things out of context shtick you are on, because this thread is becoming absurd.
Talking about what it is like to be key player in Real Madrid, and that gets changed to just being on a EuroLeague roster (so any random 16th man, on any team). Talking about how a guy like Zach Auguste was a star in ACC (fact), and would be at superstar level now (only people without basketball knowledge think otherwise)...and twisted into he was a superstar in NCAA.
This thread is very rapidly deteriorating.
Sactowndog wrote:I’m curious. What does Luca make in salary for Real? Has anyone compared the rookie salary scale to Euroleague top salaries?
The top salaries in Europe...over the last 25-30 years or so, they are almost always in the $3 million to $5 million per season in net income (after taxes paid, and paid by the clubs, and agent fees paid by the clubs). So, you are talking about roughly $6.6 million to $11 million in NBA terms.
As far as Real goes as a team, in recent years they have consistently paid a top salary of €3 million euros net - that's what Rudy used to get, that's what they offered Mirotic before he left, that's what Llull gets now. That comes to about $8.1 million a season in NBA money.
Now if we want to speculate on what they might offer Doncic, if they wanted to keep him...the most they offered to any player in recent years was €3.5 million euros net a season to Spanoulis (so that's around $9.5 million a year in NBA).
Other than that, I guess we could use historical reference points like Drazen Petrovic and Arvydas Sabonis. It was rumored that Real offered $5 million net to Petrovic to stay, and that they later paid that to Sabonis. So with that having been after taxes, the club paying the taxes, and then the agent fees, that would be somewhere around $11 million a season in NBA money. But they were supposedly paying that to Sabonis back in the 90s. Again, in recent years, the most they offered was the one offer to Spanoulis, which would be something around $9.5 million a season in NBA money. But I suppose if they offered/gave that much in the past to Drazen and Sabonis, they might think about offering it to Doncic, if they thought he would stay.
As for what Doncic is currently making, I don't really know for sure, but I remember reading somewhere that it was believed that he signed a 1 year contract just for this season, and at a salary of €1 million euros net (something like $2.7 million in NBA money). But keep in mind that's nowhere near the team's top salary, since on the same team, Llull makes 3 times that amount.
So basically, I guess if they thought he might stay, they would offer something way over what the top draft pick would get, but I doubt they offer anything at all, since he is making it clear he's going to the NBA.
serioysly, Burek made it sound like that league is something unearthly great.
