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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#361 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:36 am

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I'm not saying he cant be TE. I'm saying he'd be tried at DE first, which is an infinitely more important position. Theres a reason Watt converted from TE to DE.

Also the muscle thing is a non point. Go look at a pic of Watt when he was 17 like Zion is now.


Ya high school Watt isnt the most intimidating guy. Ya here is the crazy thing, Jadeveon Clowney at 21 years old was 6'5" 266 pounds. Zion just turned 18 and is 6'6 and 272 pounds. Can you imagine this dude in 3 years if he was put on a DE weight training program.


He'd be a monster. Would be #1 recruit at DE with those measurables.

That said, BB is 100 times better for him.


The ease that he dunks from the FT line is just insane



This is one of the more legit FT dunks I have seen and he does this after like an hour workout and it seems easy for him. Its weird but I think he went from very overrated to underrated pretty quickly. If that jumper ever gets consistent and he keeps that motor high defensively, this dude can be something special.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#362 » by clyde21 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:00 am

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Ya high school Watt isnt the most intimidating guy. Ya here is the crazy thing, Jadeveon Clowney at 21 years old was 6'5" 266 pounds. Zion just turned 18 and is 6'6 and 272 pounds. Can you imagine this dude in 3 years if he was put on a DE weight training program.


He'd be a monster. Would be #1 recruit at DE with those measurables.

That said, BB is 100 times better for him.


The ease that he dunks from the FT line is just insane



This is one of the more legit FT dunks I have seen and he does this after like an hour workout and it seems easy for him. Its weird but I think he went from very overrated to underrated pretty quickly. If that jumper ever gets consistent and he keeps that motor high defensively, this dude can be something special.


Like I said a while ago...he's a LeBron James level athlete. The physical profile is insane. We haven't seen someone that big, strong and fast since LeBron came out.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#363 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:07 am

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He'd be a monster. Would be #1 recruit at DE with those measurables.

That said, BB is 100 times better for him.


The ease that he dunks from the FT line is just insane



This is one of the more legit FT dunks I have seen and he does this after like an hour workout and it seems easy for him. Its weird but I think he went from very overrated to underrated pretty quickly. If that jumper ever gets consistent and he keeps that motor high defensively, this dude can be something special.


Like I said a while ago...he's a LeBron James level athlete. The physical profile is insane. We haven't seen someone that big, strong and fast since LeBron came out.


Yup. And its not just the jumping, the dude is super agile and has a really good first step and is super quick in the open court. Now obviously he's not on the same level as LeBron as a prospect, cause LeBron had the freakish athleticism/body to go with the freakish skill set. Zion has the freakish athleticism/body, he doesnt have the freakish skill set. But I think its gotten to the point now that I think people have underrated his skill set. I see a lot of people saying he has no handle and no skill and the only thing he can do is dunk on under sized guys. He has a pretty good handle for a dude his size, tremendous touch at the rim, a shot with some potential on it and when he shows up defensively, he can be a beast on that end.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#364 » by clyde21 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:14 am

Completely agree.

His passing and court vision is getting underrated for sure because people see the insane athleticism first and kind of ignore the nuances.

Second best prospect so far to me after Little.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#365 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:32 am

clyde21 wrote:Completely agree.

His passing and court vision is getting underrated for sure because people see the insane athleticism first and kind of ignore the nuances.

Second best prospect so far to me after Little.


Right now if Im just taking who I think can be the best player Id go

1. Cam
2. Zion
3. Little
4. RJ

To me Cam can be special. The skill level for his size is damn good when you factor in his handle and ability to run an offense. Defensively he has the size/length/athleticism as well and has shown times when he can be a stud defender. But damn I wouldnt take him #1 cause that motor. I really hope some of RJ's fire and intensity rubs off on him.

Zion freak of freaks. Im curious if whoever drafts him might just go the Giannis route and give him the ball a lot early on, take the bumps and bruises that will come with doing that, with the hope that his overall skill level will continue to grow and he can always fall back on just getting to the rim with that freakish explosion and strength.

I like Little a lot, tremendous size and athleticism to go with that ferocious pitbull attitude. I am curious to see how well his ability to create for himself comes along though. Right now his ability to create offense for himself is pretty basic. Solid turn around jumper and a spin move when attacking the basket. I just feel like offensively he is the rawest and I have the least amount of faith of him being a #1 option type guy out of the 4.

RJ to me just has a stiffness/mechanical vibe to his game. He has gotten more explosive but still his movements is till more power guard than anything else. I just cant think of too many perimeter players that are studs offensively with that style of play. Harden is the closest with his super crafty style, but who knows with RJ. He is definitely really skilled and I love his attitude.

Those are my top 4 guys with there being a significant gap to #5. If I were to draft right now I would probably go RJ, Little, Cam then Zion (again list above is who I think has the highest ceilings). I think I can easily see the ranking and order I have for these 4 constantly be changing over the college season. Im not a fan of this class at all as of right now, but if I was a team and landed a top 4 pick I would be happy. We will see if any other guys begin to close the gap on these 4.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#366 » by akhan786 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:36 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:RJ to me just has a stiffness/mechanical vibe to his game. He has gotten more explosive but still his movements is till more power guard than anything else. I just cant think of too many perimeter players that are studs offensively with that style of play. Harden is the closest with his super crafty style, but who knows with RJ. He is definitely really skilled and I love his attitude.



I hope RJ watches a lot of Harden film and notices that this "stiffness" is alleviated in Harden because Harden couples that with elite quickness and a great feel for the opponent's body which he uses to his advantage. RJ needs to be on whatever Wendell Carter did during the summer to up his lateral quickness, because otherwise I don't think his game will be efficient in the league.

Anyone know why RJ and Harden have this upright stiffness about their games? Is it just their body frame? Tatum in comparison is smooth like butter.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#367 » by Ambrose » Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:38 pm

I still think he needs to drop weight to take stress of his knees. Athletically he's beyond impressive.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#368 » by Spens1 » Today 3:05 am

I like his game in a way. He's super explosive, athletic, has decent handles and rebounding. In a way i'd argue that given his athleticism, strength, handles and the tools he has, he could be a good defender. He'll be at Duke so you know Coach K will be working with him on everything. If he is one and done, i'd imagine you'd have a pretty all rounded player, minus a shot. Which isn't a bad thing to begin with, not in this draft at least, whoever is drafting him though should be mindful that they'd be getting a player without a shot (think DeAaron Fox)

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