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This thread, and everyone on ESPN and Youtube, are creating one huge jinx on Cade.
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Sea2003 wrote:DCasey91 wrote:GSWFan1994 wrote:
Would you care to elaborate why you think Green is the #1 player from this draft class?
What are his advantages related to the other top prospects?
Thanks in advance.
Nuclear athleticism + already good basketball skills
Out of five he’s the 4th most “raw” one, but in this case all 5 have a very solid base to go off from so the raw aspect isn’t quite right in the top 5 prospects in this year’s draft.
I have him projecting to be a top 3 pure SG by year 4 (25+ppg).
The undeniable aspect is though there is a very small chance he might have insane work ethic/mentality if that’s true that’s a superstar right there.
All things being equal I’m taking the guy who has a very nice trajectory path and his base level is already very high.
I’m giving him the Ingram treatment (once I see him start to finish at the rim through contact consistently like Ingram did by back half of year 2 that’s a perennial All Star).
Green’s ceiling is higher (More athletic) so he might get to that finishing aspect sooner.
Keeping it short. Main reason? He’s this good now wait until he adds 15+ pounds haha lord have mercy guarding him.
They ran NBA sets through him and he did very well. I hazard to guess a Beal type offball/onball system.
I’m not going to be surprised if he averages 27ppg one day. Too much shake/just too much pop when he goes. (I have him higher then Antman, because psychically Green has the huge upside/adv, also Antman’s
Mentality can be rightly questioned, haven’t heard good/bad things from Green so until that happens he’s my clear number one 1# and my favorite in this years draft).
Could be Eddie Jones, or skinnier Derozan with a three, or could be this modern era’s Jordan/Kobe. Either way in my eyes he’s the best player in this draft 4-5 years from now.
Would you trade Simmons for Green?
Yes in a microsecond lol
Pick a championship roster (there’s a crap ton in NBA history) with an elite big/sg and build it like the past has. Past is a glimpse into the future sort of thing
Young Kobe/Bigger (less skilled) Hakeem sort of deal.
3rd option is easier to get the a second one.
I’m always trading Odom for Beal or Green for Thompson etc etc.
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DCasey91 wrote:Sea2003 wrote:DCasey91 wrote:
Nuclear athleticism + already good basketball skills
Out of five he’s the 4th most “raw” one, but in this case all 5 have a very solid base to go off from so the raw aspect isn’t quite right in the top 5 prospects in this year’s draft.
I have him projecting to be a top 3 pure SG by year 4 (25+ppg).
The undeniable aspect is though there is a very small chance he might have insane work ethic/mentality if that’s true that’s a superstar right there.
All things being equal I’m taking the guy who has a very nice trajectory path and his base level is already very high.
I’m giving him the Ingram treatment (once I see him start to finish at the rim through contact consistently like Ingram did by back half of year 2 that’s a perennial All Star).
Green’s ceiling is higher (More athletic) so he might get to that finishing aspect sooner.
Keeping it short. Main reason? He’s this good now wait until he adds 15+ pounds haha lord have mercy guarding him.
They ran NBA sets through him and he did very well. I hazard to guess a Beal type offball/onball system.
I’m not going to be surprised if he averages 27ppg one day. Too much shake/just too much pop when he goes. (I have him higher then Antman, because psychically Green has the huge upside/adv, also Antman’s
Mentality can be rightly questioned, haven’t heard good/bad things from Green so until that happens he’s my clear number one 1# and my favorite in this years draft).
Could be Eddie Jones, or skinnier Derozan with a three, or could be this modern era’s Jordan/Kobe. Either way in my eyes he’s the best player in this draft 4-5 years from now.
Would you trade Simmons for Green?
Yes in a microsecond lol
Pick a championship roster (there’s a crap ton in NBA history) with an elite big/sg and build it like the past has. Past is a glimpse into the future sort of thing
Young Kobe/Bigger (less skilled) Hakeem sort of deal.
3rd option is easier to get the a second one.
I’m always trading Odom for Beal or Green for Thompson etc etc.
That would be a huge risk though seeing as how Philly is competing for a chip
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Sea2003 wrote:DCasey91 wrote:Sea2003 wrote:
Would you trade Simmons for Green?
Yes in a microsecond lol
Pick a championship roster (there’s a crap ton in NBA history) with an elite big/sg and build it like the past has. Past is a glimpse into the future sort of thing
Young Kobe/Bigger (less skilled) Hakeem sort of deal.
3rd option is easier to get the a second one.
I’m always trading Odom for Beal or Green for Thompson etc etc.
That would be a huge risk though seeing as how Philly is competing for a chip
Privately the only legitimate chance we had at winning the chip was when we had Butler. Our bench stunk it up (worst bench all year) big time and you’d swear Raptors had 8-9 starter level players on a championship roster lol
They had vanvleet/ibaka/Powell/young OG haha lit us up. We actually were going toe to toe despite Leonard going bananas right there starting vs starting. Ben slowed him down his first game was something else (last game shot well over 30 attempts).
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None of the top 4 prospects has really done much to separate themselves as a consensus overall top pick. If anything Cade and Suggs stocks were negatively impacted by the tournament. Cade has been there and Green is right there still all year but neither are so much more impressive as players than the potential of Kuminga or Mobley. Suggs is the wildcard at this point imo as there are teams that could take him over everyone but most probably would rank him somewhere behind the top 4 when it comes down to brass tacks
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Jaylen Green looks like a taller and even more athletic Bradley Beal. I am not saying he is going to become the best player in this draft but I really wouldn't be surprised at all if he did down the line if he stays healthy.
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Honest to god, I don't understand the appeal of Evan Mobley
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Ettorefm wrote:Honest to god, I don't understand the appeal of Evan Mobley
Mobely is special on defense.
He is one of those rare C's who can guard 1v5 in the league. Of course we are not gonna let him guard the PG on defense, but he won't be on an island against guards.
He has very high defensive awareness overall. He has good discipline on defense, has great timings on his blocks and understands verticality. He is beyond elite at reading the PnR and I would say is more advanced than AD/Embiid at the same age at covering PnR.
He is above average on offense.
He has great footwork, a good touch around the rim, enough athleticism to finish lobs. Has a decent shot with good form (for his position) and a developed right hook.
As a passer, he is way ahead of the curve for his position.
He can take the ball up the court and initiate offense. He can probably play point forward minutes and has very good vision for a 7 footer.
His biggest weaknesses are weight/strength/body and shooting. All of which are fixable.
Mobley is basically the deluxe version of Jonathan Isaac and JJJ combined on crack. He is everything you want in a modern C with potential to anchor a defense while providing 20 ppg on offense. I doubt he can explode like Towns on offense, but that style of play doesn't seem to be conductive to winning basketball in the modern era anyways.
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CptCrunch wrote:Ettorefm wrote:Honest to god, I don't understand the appeal of Evan Mobley
Mobely is special on defense.
He is one of those rare C's who can guard 1v5 in the league. Of course we are not gonna let him guard the PG on defense, but he won't be on an island against guards.
He has very high defensive awareness overall. He has good discipline on defense, has great timings on his blocks and understands verticality. He is beyond elite at reading the PnR and I would say is more advanced than AD/Embiid at the same age at covering PnR.
He is above average on offense.
He has great footwork, a good touch around the rim, enough athleticism to finish lobs. Has a decent shot with good form (for his position) and a developed right hook.
As a passer, he is way ahead of the curve for his position.
He can take the ball up the court and initiate offense. He can probably play point forward minutes and has very good vision for a 7 footer.
His biggest weaknesses are weight/strength/body and shooting. All of which are fixable.
Mobley is basically the deluxe version of Jonathan Isaac and JJJ combined on crack. He is everything you want in a modern C with potential to anchor a defense while providing 20 ppg on offense. I doubt he can explode like Towns on offense, but that style of play doesn't seem to be conductive to winning basketball in the modern era anyways.
I just want to see Fox and Haliburton paired with Mobley. One can dream...
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codydaze wrote:CptCrunch wrote:Ettorefm wrote:Honest to god, I don't understand the appeal of Evan Mobley
Mobely is special on defense.
He is one of those rare C's who can guard 1v5 in the league. Of course we are not gonna let him guard the PG on defense, but he won't be on an island against guards.
He has very high defensive awareness overall. He has good discipline on defense, has great timings on his blocks and understands verticality. He is beyond elite at reading the PnR and I would say is more advanced than AD/Embiid at the same age at covering PnR.
He is above average on offense.
He has great footwork, a good touch around the rim, enough athleticism to finish lobs. Has a decent shot with good form (for his position) and a developed right hook.
As a passer, he is way ahead of the curve for his position.
He can take the ball up the court and initiate offense. He can probably play point forward minutes and has very good vision for a 7 footer.
His biggest weaknesses are weight/strength/body and shooting. All of which are fixable.
Mobley is basically the deluxe version of Jonathan Isaac and JJJ combined on crack. He is everything you want in a modern C with potential to anchor a defense while providing 20 ppg on offense. I doubt he can explode like Towns on offense, but that style of play doesn't seem to be conductive to winning basketball in the modern era anyways.
I just want to see Fox and Haliburton paired with Mobley. One can dream...
I support that. Might need a top 2 pick though.
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EMG518 wrote:codydaze wrote:CptCrunch wrote:
Mobely is special on defense.
He is one of those rare C's who can guard 1v5 in the league. Of course we are not gonna let him guard the PG on defense, but he won't be on an island against guards.
He has very high defensive awareness overall. He has good discipline on defense, has great timings on his blocks and understands verticality. He is beyond elite at reading the PnR and I would say is more advanced than AD/Embiid at the same age at covering PnR.
He is above average on offense.
He has great footwork, a good touch around the rim, enough athleticism to finish lobs. Has a decent shot with good form (for his position) and a developed right hook.
As a passer, he is way ahead of the curve for his position.
He can take the ball up the court and initiate offense. He can probably play point forward minutes and has very good vision for a 7 footer.
His biggest weaknesses are weight/strength/body and shooting. All of which are fixable.
Mobley is basically the deluxe version of Jonathan Isaac and JJJ combined on crack. He is everything you want in a modern C with potential to anchor a defense while providing 20 ppg on offense. I doubt he can explode like Towns on offense, but that style of play doesn't seem to be conductive to winning basketball in the modern era anyways.
I just want to see Fox and Haliburton paired with Mobley. One can dream...
I support that. Might need a top 2 pick though.
We really like going on meaningless 8 game win streaks so the only way it's happening for us is if the lotto gods bless us. I'd be happy to jump anywhere in the top 4 and just take bpa but I've been on the Mobley hype train all year.