1st Round - Defense ranked by position

[CptCrunch]

So his SF has to defend SG, SG defend PG, so that you can hide your 19 year old rookie on defense because he cannot defend his natural NBA position?

This is basically the case for Magic and James.

Luka

Except you know these people are Magic, Bron and Luka, not a wanna be college PG who can't even break 2 ATO.

edit: what was I thinking? Cade can't even break 1 ATO, he is at 4 TOV to 3.5 assist for a dreadful 0.875 ATO. But we still have people here who sees him as a point forward in the league.

[Sactowndog]

I don't know the depth to well,so I'm just going with who I currently see as the top for each position.
PG:Cade
-Easy pick here imo, because his versatility is more valuable than standard PG defense
SG:Scottie Lewis
-He makes alot of "Wow" plays and seems to be very discipled too.
SF:Kuminga
-Idk if he's a 3 or a 4, but he has terrific athletic abilities and mesurables to excel at either
PF:Scottie Barnes
-Same as Kuminga, but I do want to note how freaky long his arms seem
C: Garuba
-I think if his offense comes around he'll have All-Defense potential (because he'll need minutes). I hope he gets to play PF/small ball C in the NBA.

Curious about naming Barnes. Is you ranking based on potential or today’s defense? In the few games I watched Barnes gave up repeated straight line drives to the hoop. I didn’t see much anticipation to catch the offensive players first move. I didn’t watch a ton of his games so it could be a one off.

I like Barnes alot as a helpside defender. Stock him on a corners shooter and ket him help on diga, secondary rim protection, and keeping the the shooter in the corners, contesting the shooter with his excellent length. I think he'll be a stout post defender, with his low center of gravity/height/length/overall mass, a terrific small ball center.

I dont like him much as a point of attacks defender at the top of the arc. I do think he'd be fine funneling players into rim protection though.

I think with his size, IQ and athletisisim he can be a terrific team defender. Not a lock down 1v.1 guy like an OG, Mikal, etc.

Thanks for the info. It seems to fit my perception of him not being an OG, Mikal lock down iso type of player.

Given his lack of shooting doesn’t he really need to be a lock-down wing defender to be even a mid lottery type of pick? Even his FT% is awful so not many indicators that his shooting will get better over time.

The Kings already have an undersized small ball center but Holmes gets bullied pretty badly by the likes of Davis, Jokic and Nurkic.

[Roddy B for 3]

Curious about naming Barnes. Is you ranking based on potential or today’s defense? In the few games I watched Barnes gave up repeated straight line drives to the hoop. I didn’t see much anticipation to catch the offensive players first move. I didn’t watch a ton of his games so it could be a one off.

I like Barnes alot as a helpside defender. Stock him on a corners shooter and ket him help on diga, secondary rim protection, and keeping the the shooter in the corners, contesting the shooter with his excellent length. I think he'll be a stout post defender, with his low center of gravity/height/length/overall mass, a terrific small ball center.

I dont like him much as a point of attacks defender at the top of the arc. I do think he'd be fine funneling players into rim protection though.

I think with his size, IQ and athletisisim he can be a terrific team defender. Not a lock down 1v.1 guy like an OG, Mikal, etc.

Thanks for the info. It seems to fit my perception of him not being an OG, Mikal lock down iso type of player.

Given his lack of shooting doesn’t he really need to be a lock-down wing defender to be even a mid lottery type of pick? Even his FT% is awful so not many indicators that his shooting will get better over time.

The Kings already have an undersized small ball center but Holmes gets bullied pretty badly by the likes of Davis, Jokic and Nurkic.

32/42 = 76.19% from FT his last 20 games
11/26 his first 7 games = 42.3% FT shooter

His high school scouting videos Talk about his high energy hard work personality. Which makes me belive he will work on his strengtha. From the numbers I've ahown its pretty clear he worked on hi FT shooting after his horrible start from there.

I think on defense he will be a rich mans PJ Turker.

On offense if he can turn into a 35% corners 3pt shooter he will be a rich mans PJ Turker from this and his defense alone. When you factor in his passing savy and his ball skills his celing is much higher.

Imo opinion the floor is a high energy bnch wing he makes stuff happen on defense, clogs the offense sometimes, but also does spectacular things.

Its nit uncommon for players to go from nim shooter to terrific shooters. I think this guys celing is something like a healthy Detroit Blake Griffin with Alldefense caliber defense.

Reports in him have consistently said, for years one of his bighest strengths is his attitude. In the diga NBA that is a giant +.

As a Sacramento fan your team will be picking 8+
in reality the 8th best player in a draft isn't an allstar, but a long time starter. If you draft Scottie you have a guy who can start in this league for a long time who still has huge upside.

If he ever develops a pullup three he will be a Franchise player and better than D.Fox imo (who i really like)

[Sactowndog]

I like Barnes alot as a helpside defender. Stock him on a corners shooter and ket him help on diga, secondary rim protection, and keeping the the shooter in the corners, contesting the shooter with his excellent length. I think he'll be a stout post defender, with his low center of gravity/height/length/overall mass, a terrific small ball center.

I dont like him much as a point of attacks defender at the top of the arc. I do think he'd be fine funneling players into rim protection though.

I think with his size, IQ and athletisisim he can be a terrific team defender. Not a lock down 1v.1 guy like an OG, Mikal, etc.

Thanks for the info. It seems to fit my perception of him not being an OG, Mikal lock down iso type of player.

Given his lack of shooting doesn’t he really need to be a lock-down wing defender to be even a mid lottery type of pick? Even his FT% is awful so not many indicators that his shooting will get better over time.

The Kings already have an undersized small ball center but Holmes gets bullied pretty badly by the likes of Davis, Jokic and Nurkic.

32/42 = 76.19% from FT his last 20 games
11/26 his first 7 games = 42.3% FT shooter

His high school scouting videos Talk about his high energy hard work personality. Which makes me belive he will work on his strengtha. From the numbers I've ahown its pretty clear he worked on hi FT shooting after his horrible start from there.

I think on defense he will be a rich mans PJ Turker.

On offense if he can turn into a 35% corners 3pt shooter he will be a rich mans PJ Turker from this and his defense alone. When you factor in his passing savy and his ball skills his celing is much higher.

Imo opinion the floor is a high energy bnch wing he makes stuff happen on defense, clogs the offense sometimes, but also does spectacular things.

Its nit uncommon for players to go from nim shooter to terrific shooters. I think this guys celing is something like a healthy Detroit Blake Griffin with Alldefense caliber defense.

Reports in him have consistently said, for years one of his bighest strengths is his attitude. In the diga NBA that is a giant +.

As a Sacramento fan your team will be picking 8+
in reality the 8th best player in a draft isn't an allstar, but a long time starter. If you draft Scottie you have a guy who can start in this league for a long time who still has huge upside.

If he ever develops a pullup three he will be a Franchise player and better than D.Fox imo (who i really like)

Thanks for the further insight. The second half sample in encouraging. Do you know has he grown recently?

[Roddy B for 3]

Thanks for the info. It seems to fit my perception of him not being an OG, Mikal lock down iso type of player.

Given his lack of shooting doesn’t he really need to be a lock-down wing defender to be even a mid lottery type of pick? Even his FT% is awful so not many indicators that his shooting will get better over time.

The Kings already have an undersized small ball center but Holmes gets bullied pretty badly by the likes of Davis, Jokic and Nurkic.

32/42 = 76.19% from FT his last 20 games
11/26 his first 7 games = 42.3% FT shooter

His high school scouting videos Talk about his high energy hard work personality. Which makes me belive he will work on his strengtha. From the numbers I've ahown its pretty clear he worked on hi FT shooting after his horrible start from there.

I think on defense he will be a rich mans PJ Turker.

On offense if he can turn into a 35% corners 3pt shooter he will be a rich mans PJ Turker from this and his defense alone. When you factor in his passing savy and his ball skills his celing is much higher.

Imo opinion the floor is a high energy bnch wing he makes stuff happen on defense, clogs the offense sometimes, but also does spectacular things.

Its nit uncommon for players to go from nim shooter to terrific shooters. I think this guys celing is something like a healthy Detroit Blake Griffin with Alldefense caliber defense.

Reports in him have consistently said, for years one of his bighest strengths is his attitude. In the diga NBA that is a giant +.

As a Sacramento fan your team will be picking 8+
in reality the 8th best player in a draft isn't an allstar, but a long time starter. If you draft Scottie you have a guy who can start in this league for a long time who still has huge upside.

If he ever develops a pullup three he will be a Franchise player and better than D.Fox imo (who i really like)

Thanks for the further insight. The second half sample in encouraging. Do you know has he grown recently?

I did not. Do you know what his updated mesurables are?

[Sactowndog]

32/42 = 76.19% from FT his last 20 games
11/26 his first 7 games = 42.3% FT shooter

His high school scouting videos Talk about his high energy hard work personality. Which makes me belive he will work on his strengtha. From the numbers I've ahown its pretty clear he worked on hi FT shooting after his horrible start from there.

I think on defense he will be a rich mans PJ Turker.

On offense if he can turn into a 35% corners 3pt shooter he will be a rich mans PJ Turker from this and his defense alone. When you factor in his passing savy and his ball skills his celing is much higher.

Imo opinion the floor is a high energy bnch wing he makes stuff happen on defense, clogs the offense sometimes, but also does spectacular things.

Its nit uncommon for players to go from nim shooter to terrific shooters. I think this guys celing is something like a healthy Detroit Blake Griffin with Alldefense caliber defense.

Reports in him have consistently said, for years one of his bighest strengths is his attitude. In the diga NBA that is a giant +.

As a Sacramento fan your team will be picking 8+
in reality the 8th best player in a draft isn't an allstar, but a long time starter. If you draft Scottie you have a guy who can start in this league for a long time who still has huge upside.

If he ever develops a pullup three he will be a Franchise player and better than D.Fox imo (who i really like)

Thanks for the further insight. The second half sample in encouraging. Do you know has he grown recently?

I did not. Do you know what his updated mesurables are?

I don’t but if he has you can use it some to explain shooting.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Who are the best defenders in the 2nd round by position though???

Point guard-
Joel Ayayi/ Tre Mann/ Miles McBride/ Marcus Garrett/ Nashon Hyland ???

Shooting guard-
Aaron Henry/Scottie Lewis/ Romeo Weems/ Paul Scruggs/ Juhann Begarin?

Small forward-
Franz Wagner/ Keontae Johnson/ Herb Jones/ Isiah Livers/ Chris Smith?

Power forward-
Greg Brown 3rd/ Amyr Sylla/ Jericho Sims/ Yves Pons/ Rayquan Gray?

Center-
Jay Huff/ Neemias Queta/ Ibou Dianko Badji/ Charles Bassey/ Ariel Hukporti / Ikey Obiagu?

[SNPA]

Some of those guy aren’t lasting till the second. Wagner and Mann in particular.

I like the film I’ve seen of Huff.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Any thoughts on Marcus Garrett and a reasonable projection or comp? Could he be another Josh Richardson?