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Re: Sims 

Post#21 » by clyde21 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:51 pm

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It is pretty clear that he doesn't have the ball skills of the players you mentioned. He is simply a very athletic guy that has learned how to defend the rim and possess some degree of defensive versatility.


has he? 1.6 blocks per 36 for a senior with his length and athletic tools doesn't scream elite rim protector, but yes, agreed that he has good defensive versatility overall.


He played in a switch-heavy scheme (according to the videos I've watched of him, at least, I didn't actually follow college basketball so I can always be way off) and he also played alongside other players who can protect the rim and block shots as you pointed out. So, that could explain this number.

Also, I do have to point out that defending the rim is not simply blocking shots but, again, I have no way to know what Sims' DFG% at the rim was.


yea i know blocks is not the entirety of the picture but it gives a decent look, for comparisons sake and in the same scheme pretty much, Bamba averaged 4.4 bp36 and Hayes averaged 3.4 bp36...and both did it as freshmen.

something just doesn't add up with Sims, his athletic profile just doesnt match up with his production at all at any point in his career, and this isn't just a 1 year thing either where you can blame it on the personnel or another situation. Evanz is most likely right here in that he probably just doesn't really know how to play bball, and thats a red flag for whats gonna be a 23 year old rook.

i do think he's draftable, and I guess there's a possibility his game will completely unlock in the pros, but I just don't see any real evidence for it at Texas at this point and we've had a big sample size of it.
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Re: Sims 

Post#22 » by Nuntius » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:00 pm

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has he? 1.6 blocks per 36 for a senior with his length and athletic tools doesn't scream elite rim protector, but yes, agreed that he has good defensive versatility overall.


He played in a switch-heavy scheme (according to the videos I've watched of him, at least, I didn't actually follow college basketball so I can always be way off) and he also played alongside other players who can protect the rim and block shots as you pointed out. So, that could explain this number.

Also, I do have to point out that defending the rim is not simply blocking shots but, again, I have no way to know what Sims' DFG% at the rim was.


yea i know blocks is not the entirety of the picture but it gives a decent look, for comparisons sake and in the same scheme pretty much, Bamba averaged 4.4 bp36 and Hayes averaged 3.4 bp36...and both did it as freshmen.

something just doesn't add up with Sims, his athletic profile just doesnt match up with his production at all at any point in his career, and this isn't just a 1 year thing either where you can blame it on the personnel or another situation. Evanz is most likely right here in that he probably just doesn't really know how to play bball, and thats a red flag for whats gonna be a 23 year old rook.

i do think he's draftable, and I guess there's a possibility his game will completely unlock in the pros, but I just don't see any real evidence for it at Texas at this point and we've had a big sample size of it.


Fair enough. I don't think that we're too far apart on this.
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Post#23 » by SNPA » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:41 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
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He played in a switch-heavy scheme (according to the videos I've watched of him, at least, I didn't actually follow college basketball so I can always be way off) and he also played alongside other players who can protect the rim and block shots as you pointed out. So, that could explain this number.

Also, I do have to point out that defending the rim is not simply blocking shots but, again, I have no way to know what Sims' DFG% at the rim was.


yea i know blocks is not the entirety of the picture but it gives a decent look, for comparisons sake and in the same scheme pretty much, Bamba averaged 4.4 bp36 and Hayes averaged 3.4 bp36...and both did it as freshmen.

something just doesn't add up with Sims, his athletic profile just doesnt match up with his production at all at any point in his career, and this isn't just a 1 year thing either where you can blame it on the personnel or another situation. Evanz is most likely right here in that he probably just doesn't really know how to play bball, and thats a red flag for whats gonna be a 23 year old rook.

i do think he's draftable, and I guess there's a possibility his game will completely unlock in the pros, but I just don't see any real evidence for it at Texas at this point and we've had a big sample size of it.


Fair enough. I don't think that we're too far apart on this.

He is a guy that needs it to be simplified. Have him do two things on each end and otherwise just pass the ball and run the floor.

On d - switch and stay in front / try to block everything that comes at you or you can get weak side

On O - stand in the dunkers spot and dunk everything / screen and roll hard for a lob

Rinse and repeat.

That’s it at first. I think he can do that, better space and teammates will help him a lot IMO.
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Post#24 » by Nuntius » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:53 pm

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yea i know blocks is not the entirety of the picture but it gives a decent look, for comparisons sake and in the same scheme pretty much, Bamba averaged 4.4 bp36 and Hayes averaged 3.4 bp36...and both did it as freshmen.

something just doesn't add up with Sims, his athletic profile just doesnt match up with his production at all at any point in his career, and this isn't just a 1 year thing either where you can blame it on the personnel or another situation. Evanz is most likely right here in that he probably just doesn't really know how to play bball, and thats a red flag for whats gonna be a 23 year old rook.

i do think he's draftable, and I guess there's a possibility his game will completely unlock in the pros, but I just don't see any real evidence for it at Texas at this point and we've had a big sample size of it.


Fair enough. I don't think that we're too far apart on this.

He is a guy that needs it to be simplified. Have him do two things on each end and otherwise just pass the ball and run the floor.

On d - switch and stay in front / try to block everything that comes at you or you can get weak side

On O - stand in the dunkers spot and dunk everything / screen and roll hard for a lob

Rinse and repeat.

That’s it at first. I think he can do that, better space and teammates will help him a lot IMO.


Based on the videos I've seen about him (again, far from an expert here) he doesn't seem to be a good screener so that could be an issue. Seems more functional when he slips that screen than when he makes contact. So, he is gonna have to play alongside a good passer (who has enough gravity so he draws a double and opens up the slip) for him to be effective in a PnR situation.
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Post#25 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:02 am

I dont see why a team in the 50's wouldnt draft him and hope they can teach him to set a good screen. If that works, hope he can learn to role as well. But at that point in the draft everything is a crapshoot and despite his age I would pick him and cross my fingers before alot of younger guys. He has athletic tools that cant be taught and unique switchability on defense.

CHA, IND, OKC. All have pick(s) in the 50s and could use a 3rd big. Why take someone like Garza over a dude whos skillset, Sims, actually seems to fit what you want out of a deep bench big (Generally, hustle, switching, defense and staying out of the way on offense).
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Post#26 » by pad300 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:45 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:I dont see why a team in the 50's wouldnt draft him and hope they can teach him to set a good screen. If that works, hope he can learn to role as well. But at that point in the draft everything is a crapshoot and despite his age I would pick him and cross my fingers before alot of younger guys. He has athletic tools that cant be taught and unique switchability on defense.

CHA, IND, OKC. All have pick(s) in the 50s and could use a 3rd big. Why take someone like Garza over a dude whos skillset, Sims, actually seems to fit what you want out of a deep bench big (Generally, hustle, switching, defense and staying out of the way on offense).



The obvious answer to that is that Garza has skills and can play ball...
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Post#27 » by Nuntius » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:18 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:CHA, IND, OKC. All have pick(s) in the 50s and could use a 3rd big.


Huh? Myles Turner, Domantas Sabonis, Goga Bitadze. We absolutely have 3 bigs. We also have Brissett who plays minutes at PF. We don't need another big unless we trade one of our starting bigs.
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