Duke Draft Prospects

[Duke4life831]

No one likes Wendell Moore like me?

Here is my big board of Duke prospects (where they should go followed by where they will do), don't think Roach is going to declare but he could make a roster if he does declare.

Name - should go, (will go)
Paolo - #2 full stop, (2-4)
Griffin - around 5-10, (5-8)
Keels - around 8-14 (10-20)
Moore - around 14-20 (14-30)
Williams - around 18-30 (14-25)
Roach - 55+ (55+)

Out of the Duke guys I like Moore the 4th best. I think most likely Moore finds himself as a versatile rotation guard, probably not a starter. He just doesn't really excel at any aspect of the game, just solid-good in a bunch of areas.

I don't mean to create a big debate on it but do you feel Dukes underachieving considering they have young stars and experience? I feel like they peaked very early. I've heard that K and scheyer dynamic has players kind of confused

This is my view of K and Duke since 2010:

2010: Last year of K being elite K
2011-2015: Good level coach
2016-present: Bad level coach

Duke since 2016 has consistently peaked early because it seems like K no longer wants to go through the bumps and bruises throughout the season of guys learning a system. So it seems like he'd much rather just roll the ball out and let the guys try and figure it out.

This is why in my opinion why so many times Duke looks like world beaters early on and extremely flawed later in the season. Most other teams early on are still getting guys getting used to the system they're playing. While Duke is just running an AAU offense. So their elite talent shines early on. But later on teams scout and figure out ways to frustrate Duke's AAU offense, while they're own offenses begin to get better because the talented players are getting more and more comfortable in their team's system.

I honestly really hope there is a dynamic fight with this team when it comes to K and Scheyer. That gives me hope that Scheyer might actually try to coach next year and I dont have to keep watching more of the same that Ive seen from K over the last 5-7 years.

[CptCrunch]

No one likes Wendell Moore like me?

Here is my big board of Duke prospects (where they should go followed by where they will do), don't think Roach is going to declare but he could make a roster if he does declare.

Name - should go, (will go)
Paolo - #2 full stop, (2-4)
Griffin - around 5-10, (5-8)
Keels - around 8-14 (10-20)
Moore - around 14-20 (14-30)
Williams - around 18-30 (14-25)
Roach - 55+ (55+)

Out of the Duke guys I like Moore the 4th best. I think most likely Moore finds himself as a versatile rotation guard, probably not a starter. He just doesn't really excel at any aspect of the game, just solid-good in a bunch of areas.

I don't mean to create a big debate on it but do you feel Dukes underachieving considering they have young stars and experience? I feel like they peaked very early. I've heard that K and scheyer dynamic has players kind of confused

K is old and washed. Hasn't been a good coach in years. No answers as to if Scheyer is a good replacement; we'll see next year with his mega class (3x top 5 players including the #1, Rivals even has the Duke trio as #1/2/3). With this kind of overwhelming talent, with pretty much 4-5 guaranteed first rounders this year, Duke shouldn't be a 6 loss team. Beating teams based on pure talent right now.

[BostonCouchGM]

Out of the Duke guys I like Moore the 4th best. I think most likely Moore finds himself as a versatile rotation guard, probably not a starter. He just doesn't really excel at any aspect of the game, just solid-good in a bunch of areas.

I don't mean to create a big debate on it but do you feel Dukes underachieving considering they have young stars and experience? I feel like they peaked very early. I've heard that K and scheyer dynamic has players kind of confused

K is old and washed. Hasn't been a good coach in years. No answers as to if Scheyer is a good replacement; we'll see next year with his mega class (3x top 5 players including the #1, Rivals even has the Duke trio as #1/2/3). With this kind of overwhelming talent, with pretty much 4-5 guaranteed first rounders this year, Duke shouldn't be a 6 loss team. Beating teams based on pure talent right now.

I think their recruiting class is overrated after Lively and Whitehead. I think Duke might struggle to land the talent going forward and at least to me, it's already happening. And it doesn't look like they're landing any elite PGs and they seem to underachieve when that happens no matter the talent they have with wings/bigs.

[Duke4life831]

I don't mean to create a big debate on it but do you feel Dukes underachieving considering they have young stars and experience? I feel like they peaked very early. I've heard that K and scheyer dynamic has players kind of confused

K is old and washed. Hasn't been a good coach in years. No answers as to if Scheyer is a good replacement; we'll see next year with his mega class (3x top 5 players including the #1, Rivals even has the Duke trio as #1/2/3). With this kind of overwhelming talent, with pretty much 4-5 guaranteed first rounders this year, Duke shouldn't be a 6 loss team. Beating teams based on pure talent right now.

I think their recruiting class is overrated after Lively and Whitehead. I think Duke might struggle to land the talent going forward and at least to me, it's already happening. And it doesn't look like they're landing any elite PGs and they seem to underachieve when that happens no matter the talent they have with wings/bigs.

Even if you think the class is overrated, it is still the #1 recruiting class. Hard to get off to a better start than that for the post K era. Then the year after that they have already signed Sean Stewart who is a top 25 guy. They're considered heavy favorites for Jared McCain who is a top 25 guy. After Frank Martin getting fired, they're now considered one of the top places for GG Jackson who is a top 10 guy. And are viewed as heavy favorites for Mgbako who is a top 5 guy.

K hasnt been on the recruiting trail in a couple years. Scheyer has been the main guy for them for quite sometime. Even after K leaves Duke still has a massive name brand which will make it very easy for Scheyer to continue his recruiting. And as of right now it has no signs of slowing down.

[SeattleJazzFan]

I don't mean to create a big debate on it but do you feel Dukes underachieving considering they have young stars and experience? I feel like they peaked very early. I've heard that K and scheyer dynamic has players kind of confused

K is old and washed. Hasn't been a good coach in years. No answers as to if Scheyer is a good replacement; we'll see next year with his mega class (3x top 5 players including the #1, Rivals even has the Duke trio as #1/2/3). With this kind of overwhelming talent, with pretty much 4-5 guaranteed first rounders this year, Duke shouldn't be a 6 loss team. Beating teams based on pure talent right now.

I think their recruiting class is overrated after Lively and Whitehead. I think Duke might struggle to land the talent going forward and at least to me, it's already happening. And it doesn't look like they're landing any elite PGs and they seem to underachieve when that happens no matter the talent they have with wings/bigs.

I couldn't disagree more about filipowski. imo, if anything he is underrated - it wouldn't shock me to see him outperform both lively and whitehead.