Shabazz is being under valued.

MalonesElbows · Post #101 » by **MalonesElbows** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:36 pm

Chitownbulls wrote:#1 ranked high school players end up being good to great nba players.

Check out the history....it tells you Shabazz should be really good

Except he was not high school age at the time, thus you'll want to throw that little stat out the window.

crgreen · Post #102 » by **crgreen** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:59 am

MalonesElbows wrote:
Chitownbulls wrote:#1 ranked high school players end up being good to great nba players.

Check out the history....it tells you Shabazz should be really good

Except he was not high school age at the time, thus you'll want to throw that little stat out the window.

Thousands of kids his age in high school. With the "corrected" birthday, he was 18 years old when he started his senior season at Bishop Gorman (in September of 2011) instead of the 17 that was reported.

Mich3006 · Post #103 » by **Mich3006** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:04 pm

I´m sure he won´t drop that big in this year´s draft (don´t care about his age...)

Hornets will pick him on the 6th spot to fill their needs on the wings

freshie2 · Post #104 » by **freshie2** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:37 pm

Unfortunately for him, you get a player with a lot of questions, and an overbearing family/father to complicate things further. If I'm a GM, I'd have to absolutely love his game (seeing something everyone else is not) to take on the whole package this kid appears to bring.

Mlockhart · Post #105 » by **Mlockhart** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:38 pm

It seems like the consensus among NBA personnel that Shabazz is that his stock has slipped. If the green room invites indicate anything, it's Shabazz has fallen out of the top ten.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/23/invitations-extended-to-the-nba-drafts-green-room/

ADoaN17 · Post #106 » by **ADoaN17** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:03 pm

Only team in top 10 that might take Shabazz are the Kings. Brought him in twice and said he had the best workout so far.

Apollo64 · Post #107 » by **Apollo64** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:32 pm

I think the transition to the NBA is going to be very ugly for him. He has a very peculiar game with a lot of contested mid-range jumpers that clearly won't work against NBA SFs and it seems also that he doesn't have the skills to fashion himself into an NBA SG.

Talent Chaser · Post #108 » by **Talent Chaser** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:51 pm

His jumper is so ugly and he doesn't shine in any other aspect than scoring, no way he hangs around in the NBA.

6_Rings · Post #109 » by **6_Rings** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:48 pm

Hope he falls on to the Bulls' laps

Mik317 · Post #110 » by **Mik317** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:12 pm

The Bulls would be perfect for him.

I ciould also see OKC taking him to give them that bench scoring punch.

Basically he's better off going to a place where he can be surrounded by talent and good coaching rather than being a guy who gets his but his team sucks.

kmatrixg · Post #111 » by **kmatrixg** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:22 pm

Shabazz is such an awfully bad defender it's not even funny.

logical_art · Post #112 » by **logical_art** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:19 am

Reminds me of Ceballos.

Ortho Stice · Post #113 » by **Ortho Stice** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:00 am

I can't believe McLemore is such a lock to go before Shabazz. His main strength (shooting) is a strength of Shabazz's too, but Shabazz has a better NBA body, he's been described as the next Kobe all through high school, and he can slash to the hoop, a vital skill for a top draftee guard, and nearly every scout has said is something that McLemore literally can't do).

I think Shabazz should go first overall. I can see him as being a 25 PPG scorer in the NBA. If the Pistons steal him in the same way that they stole Drummond they might have a future dynasty

Post #114 » by **Yuri Vaultin** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:11 am

Ortho Stice wrote:I think Shabazz should go first overall. I can see him as being a 25 PPG scorer in the NBA.

If I am not mistaken, Shabazz was woefully inefficient.

pickIBL · Post #115 » by **pickIBL** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:03 am

so many wings I like better than bazz. I think if you tie his off hand behind his back he might not even notice.

Ortho Stice · Post #116 » by **Ortho Stice** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:02 am

I was watching a draft show today and the only positives they had for McLemore was that he had good form on his jumpshot. Taking McLemore over Shabazz would be like picking Thomas Robinson over Andre Drummond. Perhaps Shabazz will drop down to where Kobe was drafted; that would be fitting if he went on to form a dynasty with Drummond as Shaq to Shabazz's Kobe.

Another player who's being undervalued now is Nerlens Noel. He's going to be an elite defender and extremely efficient on offense. He was being compared to Anthony Davis throughout the season and yet now he's going to drop because of low-ceiling "safe" players. I would probably pick Shabazz first and Nerlens second

Knighthonor · Post #117 » by **Knighthonor** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:51 pm

So if Shabazz has such poor handles, why didnt people pick this up when he had all that hype?

GhostsOfGil · Post #118 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:05 pm

Ortho Stice wrote:I can't believe McLemore is such a lock to go before Shabazz. His main strength (shooting) is a strength of Shabazz's too, but Shabazz has a better NBA body, he's been described as the next Kobe all through high school, and he can slash to the hoop, a vital skill for a top draftee guard, and nearly every scout has said is something that McLemore literally can't do).

I think Shabazz should go first overall. I can see him as being a 25 PPG scorer in the NBA. If the Pistons steal him in the same way that they stole Drummond they might have a future dynasty

Sounds like you're still swimming in the wake of his high school hype. Mclemore was far more efficient from 2, from 3 and at the line. I only watch Bazz twice but this was something I read recently about his selfish tendencies:

He's praised for his ability to move without the ball, but it's always simply so he can put himself in position to shoot. I've often seen him make a cut in front of another open player, ruining a potential passing lane. His tunnel vision doesn't just extend to when he has the ball. I've noticed a number of plays like this defensively where he doesn't even bother to try to stop a driving player because it's not his man.

Post #119 » by **Yuri Vaultin** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:15 pm

Knighthonor wrote:So if Shabazz has such poor handles, why didnt people pick this up when he had all that hype?

The hype was going on before people realized he and his family had been lying about his age.

Knighthonor · Post #120 » by **Knighthonor** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:22 pm

Yuri Vaultin wrote:
Knighthonor wrote:So if Shabazz has such poor handles, why didnt people pick this up when he had all that hype?

The hype was going on before people realized he and his family had been lying about his age.

I didnt say anything about his age. I said why didn't you all catch the fact he has bad handles during the hype he was getting