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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#101 » by DirtyDez » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:20 pm

Lalouie wrote:He's trying to reclassify again and this time it might be real. I read this, which makes no sense to me but what da hey... "It could be that Bagley already knows for sure he'll never qualify for any college and so he's reclassifying for the reason stated: It makes him eligibile for the 2018 NBA Draft, so he doesn't have to waste his time being ineligible for two years (one in high school, one in college) and wait until 2019 before being the #1 overall pick"


Technically he could reclassify/graduate and be eligible for the 2018 without playing in college. I've heard that's an option for him as well.
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Post#102 » by Lalouie » Fri Aug 4, 2017 5:17 pm

Usc just offered bagley's 7 and 11 year old brothers... LMAO
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Post#103 » by nolang1 » Fri Aug 4, 2017 5:50 pm

Lalouie wrote:Usc just offered bagley's 7 and 11 year old brothers... LMAO


One is 7 but the other is a rising sophomore who's ranked highly enough to be getting offers from Pac-12 schools regardless of who his brother is. Also if you look at the previous page this isn't exactly breaking news.
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Post#104 » by Lalouie » Sun Aug 6, 2017 6:44 am

All things seem to point to mb3 playing overseas. The reclassification is for him to try and get into the 2018 draft. Right now all his campus visits are going nowhere
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#105 » by GimmeDat » Sun Aug 6, 2017 11:32 am

Lalouie wrote:All things seem to point to mb3 playing overseas. The reclassification is for him to try and get into the 2018 draft. Right now all his campus visits are going nowhere


Purely speculation, but if he ended up in the NBL like TFerg I'd be so happy.
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Post#106 » by ItsThatEasy » Mon Aug 7, 2017 5:48 pm

Why not just play in the D-League (G-League as of 2017-2018) ?

What's the pro's and con's of playing there as opposed to overseas?

It can't be fear of competition because he plays every single weekend in the Drew League against NBA players with everybody watching (he's looked great btw).
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#107 » by clyde21 » Mon Aug 7, 2017 5:55 pm

These rules are ridiculous. Let the guy enter the draft if he wants to.
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#108 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Aug 7, 2017 6:26 pm

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This guys actually gets paid to scout for a living? Lol


I'm actually a big fan of Dean's hot takes. He doesn't get paid to scout. He is a self-employed basketball gambler. They are quite a few of these out there. Most famous guy everyone has heard of is probably Haralabos (Bob) Voulgaris.

Dean's track record is probably as good as it gets in terms of talent evaluation.


Dean had a good 2014 draft but hasn't had much hits since then in my opinion (Including being too low on Porzingis, Turner and Booker in 2015, 2016 is too early to call, but he had Ingram 1st).
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#109 » by Lalouie » Mon Aug 7, 2017 8:42 pm

ItsThatEasy wrote:Why not just play in the D-League (G-League as of 2017-2018) ?

What's the pro's and con's of playing there as opposed to overseas?

It can't be fear of competition because he plays every single weekend in the Drew League against NBA players with everybody watching (he's looked great btw).


You still have to get drafted, right?
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Post#110 » by ItsThatEasy » Mon Aug 7, 2017 8:44 pm

Lalouie wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:Why not just play in the D-League (G-League as of 2017-2018) ?

What's the pro's and con's of playing there as opposed to overseas?

It can't be fear of competition because he plays every single weekend in the Drew League against NBA players with everybody watching (he's looked great btw).


You still have to get drafted, right?


To my knowledge you can go straight from high school to the G-League. They're trying to turn it into a pipeline.
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#111 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Aug 7, 2017 8:53 pm

ItsThatEasy wrote:
Lalouie wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:Why not just play in the D-League (G-League as of 2017-2018) ?

What's the pro's and con's of playing there as opposed to overseas?

It can't be fear of competition because he plays every single weekend in the Drew League against NBA players with everybody watching (he's looked great btw).


You still have to get drafted, right?


To my knowledge you can go straight from high school to the G-League. They're trying to turn it into a pipeline.


But then you get drafted out of the G League like P.J. Hairston did
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#112 » by ItsThatEasy » Mon Aug 7, 2017 9:39 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:
Lalouie wrote:
You still have to get drafted, right?


To my knowledge you can go straight from high school to the G-League. They're trying to turn it into a pipeline.


But then you get drafted out of the G League like P.J. Hairston did


Correct.

If I was Bagley and I've clearly shown I can play with NBA athletes consistently I would just go that route and make some money immediately instead of going to college.
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Post#113 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Aug 8, 2017 9:01 pm

ItsThatEasy wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:
To my knowledge you can go straight from high school to the G-League. They're trying to turn it into a pipeline.


But then you get drafted out of the G League like P.J. Hairston did


Correct.

If I was Bagley and I've clearly shown I can play with NBA athletes consistently I would just go that route and make some money immediately instead of going to college.


He wont get nearly the exposure as if he went to college and the money is pretty trash, its basically minimum wage. The D League will become much more enticing if they start offering more money. It doesnt even have to be millions of dollars, but if big time players can go straight to the D league and be making 100-150k a year, it becomes much more enticing.
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Post#114 » by ItsThatEasy » Tue Aug 8, 2017 10:51 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
But then you get drafted out of the G League like P.J. Hairston did


Correct.

If I was Bagley and I've clearly shown I can play with NBA athletes consistently I would just go that route and make some money immediately instead of going to college.


He wont get nearly the exposure as if he went to college and the money is pretty trash, its basically minimum wage. The D League will become much more enticing if they start offering more money. It doesnt even have to be millions of dollars, but if big time players can go straight to the D league and be making 100-150k a year, it becomes much more enticing.


Assuming you mean exposure in terms of his brand? If so then I agree 100%, the college-to-draft hype machine certainly can't be duplicated at the moment.
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#115 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Aug 9, 2017 1:29 am

ItsThatEasy wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:
Correct.

If I was Bagley and I've clearly shown I can play with NBA athletes consistently I would just go that route and make some money immediately instead of going to college.


He wont get nearly the exposure as if he went to college and the money is pretty trash, its basically minimum wage. The D League will become much more enticing if they start offering more money. It doesnt even have to be millions of dollars, but if big time players can go straight to the D league and be making 100-150k a year, it becomes much more enticing.


Assuming you mean exposure in terms of his brand? If so then I agree 100%, the college-to-draft hype machine certainly can't be duplicated at the moment.


Ya thats what Im talking about. The hype machine especially if he plays in March cant be matched.
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#116 » by Justwar » Wed Aug 9, 2017 5:52 am

The reason players go to big schools is because those fan bases are going to start the guy off with die hard fans. It can be done on a small stage but the bigger squads help elite players with that shoe contract money.
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#117 » by Catchall » Wed Aug 9, 2017 9:13 pm

He looks like a better prospect than Porter to me. He'll be a dominant PF even if he's 6'8" or 6'9". Fantastic athlete, and he already has a decent offensive arsenal. He's not a sweet shooter, but he can learn to shoot.
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#118 » by SmartWentCrazy » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:48 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
But then you get drafted out of the G League like P.J. Hairston did


Correct.

If I was Bagley and I've clearly shown I can play with NBA athletes consistently I would just go that route and make some money immediately instead of going to college.


He wont get nearly the exposure as if he went to college and the money is pretty trash, its basically minimum wage. The D League will become much more enticing if they start offering more money. It doesnt even have to be millions of dollars, but if big time players can go straight to the D league and be making 100-150k a year, it becomes much more enticing.


This is accurate, but not the entire picture. If he went to the G-League instead of college he'd no longer be limited to the NCAA's amateur rule. I'm pretty sure he could sign a 7 figure shoe deal immediately, which I imagine all of the big players would offer in an effort to lock up a talent like his early.
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#119 » by ItsThatEasy » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:19 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:
Correct.

If I was Bagley and I've clearly shown I can play with NBA athletes consistently I would just go that route and make some money immediately instead of going to college.


He wont get nearly the exposure as if he went to college and the money is pretty trash, its basically minimum wage. The D League will become much more enticing if they start offering more money. It doesnt even have to be millions of dollars, but if big time players can go straight to the D league and be making 100-150k a year, it becomes much more enticing.


This is accurate, but not the entire picture. If he went to the G-League instead of college he'd no longer be limited to the NCAA's amateur rule. I'm pretty sure he could sign a 7 figure shoe deal immediately, which I imagine all of the big players would offer in an effort to lock up a talent like his early.


Very good point.

Again, I wouldn't recommend this path for many players right now, but Bagley is the exception. He spent the entire summer playing against pro's in front of sold out crowds at the Drew League. On the same team as CP3 and Harden he looked right at home. Not too many prospects enter college with the degree of clout he has with actual NBA players at the moment. There's a guy from every team right now that could go to their GM and sing his praises.
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Re: Marvin Bagley 

Post#120 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:03 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
ItsThatEasy wrote:
Correct.

If I was Bagley and I've clearly shown I can play with NBA athletes consistently I would just go that route and make some money immediately instead of going to college.


He wont get nearly the exposure as if he went to college and the money is pretty trash, its basically minimum wage. The D League will become much more enticing if they start offering more money. It doesnt even have to be millions of dollars, but if big time players can go straight to the D league and be making 100-150k a year, it becomes much more enticing.


This is accurate, but not the entire picture. If he went to the G-League instead of college he'd no longer be limited to the NCAA's amateur rule. I'm pretty sure he could sign a 7 figure shoe deal immediately, which I imagine all of the big players would offer in an effort to lock up a talent like his early.


That is a great point if he could get it. I'm not sure that he would get the deal. Because I feel like we would've seen a lot more top tier prospects go straight to the D league by now if they were able to get 7 figures right away from shoe deals. I just feel like a player would've taken that path by now.

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