Mirotic12 wrote:XTraderXL wrote:So why are they not getting any minutes on their teams which are not as good as Real? And why they dont show half as much as Doncic when they do get minutes even though they are both older than him? Again, when they at least get minutes and actually show something in senior basketball then we can talk about it. You cant compare guys who play 20min a game for Real and a guy who plays Bosnian league or doesnt even make his teams rotation...
Kurucs is not playing in Barca (and they are no worse than Real when healthy) because he blew his knee out and had to have surgery. How do you expect him to play when he's on crutches?
Atic is in a Greek League team, not a Spanish League team. In Spanish League you can have 8 foreign players, plus 4 foreign players with a Spanish playing liscence (given to young players that are not from Spain like Doncic)...so you can have even 12 foreign players on your roster like Baskonia for example.
In Greek League you can have only 6 foreign players, that's it. AEK has like 8 foreign players, but only 6 can play.
Atic is 19, so of course he's not going to be chosen over veteran foreign players for the domestic league. As for the European league, he can only play in that, and that hasn't even started yet. Champions League didn't even begin yet, so how does it even matter that he did not play?
Finally, you should actually watch these other players play before you make such resounding statements that they are clearly without any doubt not as good as Doncic. Making such statements when you obviously never saw 2 of the 3 players play isn't wise.
In the case of Atic, he's better at every aspect of basketball than Doncic, except outside shooting. And you are making it seem like it's ludicrous to even mention his name in the same sentence with Doncic. Also,
if Real had a better backup point guard than Dontaye Draper, who is a pure 100% defensive specialist, and who can do nothing but defend and shoot 3s (he can't pass, he can't score, he can't create, he can't run screen roll, he can't even barely dribble)...........
then yeah, Doncic would not be playing much either.
You are acting like all of this stuff exists in a vacuum, and it does not. You seem to be under the impression that Doncic would play a lot of minutes in every European team, and that is absolutely false. There are plenty of teams where he would not.
Just as there are teams where Atic would be getting plenty of playing time right now. Your level of in depth analysis is really lacking, for you to be so adamant about the level of these players.
Oh boy, where to start... As always, you wrote in an absolute way, like what you think is complete fact. You talk about vacuum, yet you are the one not looking at the big/complete picture and simplifying things, to help prove your point obviously.
First of all, if Atic was so superior compared to Doncic, as you state, he would be playing games! You think they would let such a huge talent sit in the stands? The fact that 6 out of 8 foreign players are picked before him tells me all I need to know, without making up excues. IF he was that good ("better at every aspect of basketball than Doncic, except outside shooting" type of good), they would push him higher up the rotation because it would be in teams best interest, wouldn't you think they would want to develop such a huge talent as much as possible? Talk about vacuum...
Secondly, Real lost Sergio Rodriguez and MADE A DECISION to replace him only with Draper, a lesser player, because they planned a bigger role for Doncic. They really trust him and want to see him grow, and what better than give him a few extra minutes. And to start the season their faith is paying off big time! You can try to spin it however way you want, label him dirty, find excuses in number of allowed foreign players, in injuries, in ifs and but's like "if Real had a better backup point guard," etc. Ifs galore with you all day all night when it comes to Doncic haha.
You're doing your best to talk down Doncic, to disregard his performances, you put other players on pedestals to show how he isnt anything special and just lucky to be in a position he's in. I don't know why, do you hate Real, maybe Doncic did something to you personally, maybe you hate Slovenia, I don't know. But you anti-Doncic agenda is becoming more and more annoying, your "facts" more and more skewed, and it only makes you look like a bigger fool with each passing comment. Don't dare say you don't hate the kid, if you didn't you'd be able to add some praise in your "objective" posts, but it's only bashing.
You can twist your words however you like, fact of the matter is Doncic is viewed as one of the biggest talents in Europe, Real and Pablo Laso have complete faith in his game, and he's show on the court in a bigger and bigger sample size now, that he has a positive effect on the floor as a 17 year old kid. And what must hurt you most, he plays in crunch time and he's show to be quite clutch, so your past excuse of him playing in blowouts against unmotivated 2nd units is thrown out the window.
PS: Posted the reply to Doncic's thread. He'll be talked about a lot before getting drafted, hopefully others follow and post about him in here so we have it all in once place, since mods didn't move other posts here.
