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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#101 » by The-Power » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:37 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:That would be my take when I let my Duke bias and fandom talk, but ya I think there is a solid chance Carter goes 7th or 8th in this year's draft and that is just too much money to turn down.

I fully understand the appeal of securing the bags of money, but he would not 'turn down' 20M. It's not like he wouldn't get drafted next year in almost all cases. But yes, it makes more sense to enter the draft this year unless he doesn't feel ready yet.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#102 » by guille_4 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:57 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:That would be my take when I let my Duke bias and fandom talk, but ya I think there is a solid chance Carter goes 7th or 8th in this year's draft and that is just too much money to turn down.

I fully understand the appeal of securing the bags of money, but he would not 'turn down' 20M. It's not like he wouldn't get drafted next year in almost all cases. But yes, it makes more sense to enter the draft this year unless he doesn't feel ready yet.


When I see a sure-thing lottery pick go back to school for another year, I think of Ivan Rabb.

He was projected to be a mid/late 1st round pick in 2016 and ended up staying in school and getting drafted in the second round in 2017, signining a contract with only $2.3 million guaranteed. Had he come out in 2015 and been drafted 10th (being conservative, I think he was projected to be 8th), he would have made $5.5 million over the first 2 years and an extra $3.5M if he was extended for the 3rd year (vs. $1.6M in his current contract).

Basically, he would have had his finances solved for his lifetime (with a 4% return on his investments, he could have bought a $1.2M house and lived with $100,000-$120,000 of today's dollars for life) just with his 2-year contract alone.

See 2016 thread on Ivan Rabb: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1429526&p=46107636&hilit=ivan+rabb#p46107636
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#103 » by Marcus » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:57 pm

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The-Power wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:That would be my take when I let my Duke bias and fandom talk, but ya I think there is a solid chance Carter goes 7th or 8th in this year's draft and that is just too much money to turn down.

I fully understand the appeal of securing the bags of money, but he would not 'turn down' 20M. It's not like he wouldn't get drafted next year in almost all cases. But yes, it makes more sense to enter the draft this year unless he doesn't feel ready yet.


When I see a sure-thing lottery pick go back to school for another year, I think of Ivan Rabb.

He was projected to be a mid/late 1st round pick in 2016 and ended up staying in school and getting drafted in the second round in 2017, signining a contract with only $2.3 million guaranteed. Had he come out in 2015 and been drafted 10th (being conservative, I think he was projected to be 8th), he would have made $5.5 million over the first 2 years and an extra $3.5M if he was extended for the 3rd year (vs. $1.6M in his current contract).

Basically, he would have had his finances solved for his lifetime (with a 4% return on his investments, he could have bought a $1.2M house and lived with $100,000-$120,000 of today's dollars for life) just with his 2-year contract alone.

See 2016 thread on Ivan Rabb: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1429526&p=46107636&hilit=ivan+rabb#p46107636


Yeah I never got Ivan going back either and it certainly seemed to hurt him.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#104 » by doordoor123 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:55 pm

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guille_4 wrote:
The-Power wrote:I fully understand the appeal of securing the bags of money, but he would not 'turn down' 20M. It's not like he wouldn't get drafted next year in almost all cases. But yes, it makes more sense to enter the draft this year unless he doesn't feel ready yet.


When I see a sure-thing lottery pick go back to school for another year, I think of Ivan Rabb.

He was projected to be a mid/late 1st round pick in 2016 and ended up staying in school and getting drafted in the second round in 2017, signining a contract with only $2.3 million guaranteed. Had he come out in 2015 and been drafted 10th (being conservative, I think he was projected to be 8th), he would have made $5.5 million over the first 2 years and an extra $3.5M if he was extended for the 3rd year (vs. $1.6M in his current contract).

Basically, he would have had his finances solved for his lifetime (with a 4% return on his investments, he could have bought a $1.2M house and lived with $100,000-$120,000 of today's dollars for life) just with his 2-year contract alone.

See 2016 thread on Ivan Rabb: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1429526&p=46107636&hilit=ivan+rabb#p46107636


Yeah I never got Ivan going back either and it certainly seemed to hurt him.


Either way Rabb would have fallen in the draft process. He had nice production in college, but didn’t improve, didn’t have the fame or strength, didn’t have the footspeed and wasn’t as athletic as advertised.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#105 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:29 am

Carter would be dumb to come back. Literally 0 incentive to.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#106 » by Lwcasu » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:44 am

clyde21 wrote:Carter would be dumb to come back. Literally 0 incentive to.



Yeah and his team is going to be stacked. I doubt he statistically improves.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#108 » by damedash09 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:25 pm

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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#109 » by DrazenReznik » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:22 pm

I believe I saw he measured 6'11 with a 7'5 wing span and 9'1 standing reach.

Those measurements and his all around skill level, why wouldn't he go top 5?
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Post#110 » by NotACat » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:33 pm

DrazenReznik wrote:I believe I saw he measured 6'11 with a 7'5 wing span and 9'1 standing reach.

Those measurements and his all around skill level, why wouldn't he go top 5?

There's concerns about his quickness and athleticism, as well as his shooting due to his low volume of outside shots at Duke.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#111 » by Marcus » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:20 pm

DrazenReznik wrote:I believe I saw he measured 6'11 with a 7'5 wing span and 9'1 standing reach.

Those measurements and his all around skill level, why wouldn't he go top 5?


not a ton of room for growth and potential. Like he essentially is what he will be going forward. Does a lot of things well but nothing great. One of my favorite if not my favorite player in the draft but he's slated to be a solid 10 year guy in the league. If available you'd prefer higher upside building blocks when selecting top 5. Wendell doesn't project to be either of those things.

I think for Wendell to go top five it would have to be a "fit" pick and even then i'd have to say Ayton, Bamba, even JJJ might beat him out if a team needs a center.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#112 » by kobyz » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:31 pm

i see Rasheed Wallace clone!
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#113 » by Marcus » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:45 pm

kobyz wrote:i see Rasheed Wallace clone!


in some ways maybe. Not sure he'll be the defender Sheed was though. In terms of a big that can shoot a little and make high IQ plays yeah I get it.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#114 » by OGLife » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:52 pm

Didn’t the Sixers make the mistake of drafting the same type of talent? Teams never learn..
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Post#115 » by DrazenReznik » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:59 pm

OGLife wrote:Didn’t the Sixers make the mistake of drafting the same type of talent? Teams never learn..


What's comparable between okafor and. Carter besides being from duke?

I'll wait for this doozy
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#116 » by OGLife » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:18 pm

DrazenReznik wrote:
OGLife wrote:Didn’t the Sixers make the mistake of drafting the same type of talent? Teams never learn..


What's comparable between okafor and. Carter besides being from duke?

I'll wait for this doozy

Most likely will be out of the league or reach his ceiling which is a back up ala Kanter.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#117 » by DrazenReznik » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:33 pm

OGLife wrote:
DrazenReznik wrote:
OGLife wrote:Didn’t the Sixers make the mistake of drafting the same type of talent? Teams never learn..


What's comparable between okafor and. Carter besides being from duke?

I'll wait for this doozy

Most likely will be out of the league or reach his ceiling which is a back up ala Kanter.



Sounds like bullsh*t. Just as I expected
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#118 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:32 pm

OGLife wrote:
DrazenReznik wrote:
OGLife wrote:Didn’t the Sixers make the mistake of drafting the same type of talent? Teams never learn..


What's comparable between okafor and. Carter besides being from duke?

I'll wait for this doozy

Most likely will be out of the league or reach his ceiling which is a back up ala Kanter.


Carter is an elite rebounder, very underrated passer, can shoot the 3 and protect the rim. All things Okafor was really bad at. If Carter didn't play at Duke, his and Okafor's name would never be mentioned together.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#119 » by Arsenal » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:51 pm

OGLife wrote:Didn’t the Sixers make the mistake of drafting the same type of talent? Teams never learn..


Yes, taking Joel Embiid when we already had Nerlens Noel was a terrible mistake!
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#120 » by OGLife » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:11 pm

DrazenReznik wrote:
OGLife wrote:
DrazenReznik wrote:
What's comparable between okafor and. Carter besides being from duke?

I'll wait for this doozy

Most likely will be out of the league or reach his ceiling which is a back up ala Kanter.



Sounds like bullsh*t. Just as I expected

Alright, quote me. Bamba, Bagley and Spellman will be the best bigs to come out of this draft.

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