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Post#101 » by nolang1 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:21 pm

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HotelVitale wrote: I've been trying to talk myself into this but I still think he has some risk and isn't nearly as much of a surething starter as you all do. He won't be able to drive consistently against anyone and I don't see much raw passing/vision talent (though I know most guys can get decent at that), and I definitely don't see an all-NBA defense type there. I also see more of a decent open spot-up shooter type than a wet shooter who can hit from all over, on the run, against hard close-outs, etc. I still like him in general, but don't see why people think he's a shoe-in to a better career than, say, Wes Johnson.
Compared to Wesley Johnson in 2010, Bridges is a year younger and much better at shooting, defending, and decision-making aka the main attributes you are looking for from this type of player.


That's what I mean--Wes Johnson had about the same shooting #s (50/42 vs 52/43), better passing #s, and much better defensive stats (though defensive stats are stupid). But for some reason people think Bridges is absolutely the real deal while Johnson was a phony. It's hard to make the jump to the NBA's athleticism and speed, and a lot of the stuff that Bridges seems very good at now are b/c/o him having NCAA advantages that won't be NBA ones (e.g. length and lateral quickness are great for the NCAA but won't be special in the NBA). I really want to like Bridges and he's shown good stuff but I still see a guy who could fail to be anything special given what he's got now.

To be clear, I don't want to go into the weeds comparing WJ and Bridges. Point was, with Bridges people might be falling in love with a 'type' of the player rather than the player himself, happens every year with a couple of prospects. Half of the posts here are about why it's smart to take a very good role player instead of a potential star--instead of us talking about whether Bridges is really a lock to be a great role player. Based on what we've seen so far, I think he looks like a legit NBA player but there's a big gap between that and an above average starter; will he continue to make great decisions when you have to make them twice as fast, while he continue to shoot great from 3 from 3 ft further and with guys his size guarding him, etc?


Sorry, I thought it would be self-explanatory from the stats. Bridges is on track to attempt twice as many threes as Wes Johnson did his last year of college, shot a high percentage on them last year too (as opposed to Johnson being a one-year wonder), and has been a significantly better free throw shooter. That by itself adds up to being a much better shooter, and then you can look at the tape and see he actually does hit threes in a variety of different ways and isn’t afraid to shoot from NBA range already.

On defense, Bridges has demonstrated the ability to guard 1 through 4 whereas Johnson got his stats playing in a 2-3 zone.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#102 » by SeattleJazzFan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:32 pm

yep, bridges has been an efficient all around shooter all 3 years at NOVA - hasn't mattered what his usage is, minutes played, whatever - he's been a shooter. Bridges doesn't get credit for it, but he's a pure shooter with a great stroke and has shown it consistently over the course of his career.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#103 » by UConn celt » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:43 pm

Yeah I think his stroke will really translate. I’ve seen him shoot on the move, in tight windows with defensers nearby, and out to nba range.

He’s got a quick, high release and seems to have good elevation. I think he’ll be a pure shooter at the next level rather than a just a guy who can hit open catch and shoot threes.


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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#104 » by GIMME_DATT » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:56 pm

Putting on a clinic in the second half
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Post#105 » by logical_art » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:40 am

What are the chances he's more Michael Redd then Trevor Ariza offensively?
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Post#106 » by tigermars » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:47 am

logical_art wrote:What are the chances he's more Michael Redd then Trevor Ariza offensively?

some pump and go mid range game
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Post#107 » by InTheNBADraft » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:20 pm

How does he compare to Tobias Harris?
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Post#108 » by doordoor123 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:21 pm

InTheNBADraft wrote:How does he compare to Tobias Harris?


He doesn’t.
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Post#109 » by King Ken » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:19 pm

Bridges is really good. He will impress in the NBA.
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Post#110 » by SeattleJazzFan » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:09 pm

logical_art wrote:What are the chances he's more Michael Redd then Trevor Ariza offensively?


as a shooter, he's more peak Redd. but definitely has the potential to be more of a two way player than Redd was.
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Post#111 » by vincecarter4pres » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:37 pm

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InTheNBADraft wrote:How does he compare to Tobias Harris?


He doesn’t.

Agreed. He's either going to be shorter Otto Porter with better defense or if he hits his peak and in a few years picks up a semi-nasty handle, very Kawhi-like. If he's an in-between, he's Matt Barnes best years for his entire career. If he busts? Well then he busts lol and honestly, his head is too grounded for him to be an out of the league or even Wes Johnson bust imho, it will just be that he busts relative to draft position and is basically the new Danny Green.
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Post#112 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:40 pm

actually like the danny green comparison as sort of a floor for Bridges. similar players with similar strengths and weaknesses. a smaller, thinner Kawhi would be a ceiling.
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Post#113 » by doordoor123 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:46 pm

I like longer Klay Thompson comparison.
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Post#114 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:11 pm

doordoor123 wrote:I like longer Klay Thompson comparison.


really what a lot of us are describing is a top shelf 3 and D guy who can maybe do some other things on occasion.

i'd kill to have him in the backcourt with Mitchell going forward.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#115 » by doordoor123 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:14 pm

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doordoor123 wrote:I like longer Klay Thompson comparison.


really what a lot of us are describing is a top shelf 3 and D guy who can maybe do some other things on occasion.

i'd kill to have him in the backcourt with Mitchell going forward.


They would be insane together. I think by the time the draft comes around it would be crazy if Bridges was taken after 6. He’s really good and still has upside.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#116 » by GIMME_DATT » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:35 am

One of the safest players in a draft with a ton of question marks

Top 7 pick
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Post#117 » by TheZachAttack » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:44 pm

Bigger Gary Harris offensively. Elite perimeter defense and ability to switch 1-4. That's an amazing player.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#118 » by baldur » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:02 pm

GIMME_DATT wrote:One of the safest players in a draft with a ton of question marks

Top 7 pick


Safest but Ton of question marks?
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#119 » by SlowPaced » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:45 pm

baldur wrote:
GIMME_DATT wrote:One of the safest players in a draft with a ton of question marks

Top 7 pick


Safest but Ton of question marks?


He said the draft has a ton of question marks, not the player.
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Re: Mikal Bridges 

Post#120 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:01 pm

Bridges reminds me of a moneyball type of pick (the best teams already do this) you narrow your roster down to key metrics - efficient shooters, elite defenders and a couple of shot creators to achieve volume.

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