Jarrett Culver

Draft talk all year round

Moderators: Marcus, Duke4life831

User avatar
Capn'O
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 89,862
And1: 109,494
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: Bone Goal
 

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#101 » by Capn'O » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:57 pm

Ruzious wrote:You're picking between Culver and Barrett - which do you choose and what's the main deciding factor?


Culver because of his all around game. I.e. I don't see Barrett as a ball dominant player that you want to build around, whereas Culver's secondary playmaking skills make him more valuable across the board, imo. Any team can build _with_ a guy like Culver.
BAF Clippers:
UNDER CONSTRUCTION

:beer:
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 64,015
And1: 70,218
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#102 » by clyde21 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:20 pm

Ruzious wrote:You're picking between Culver and Barrett - which do you choose and what's the main deciding factor?


Barrett. Will be a more of a alpha dog scorer in the NBA.
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
AshyLarrysDiaper
Forum Mod - Bulls
Forum Mod - Bulls
Posts: 16,169
And1: 7,842
Joined: Jul 16, 2004
Location: Oakland

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#103 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:06 am

Ruzious wrote:You're picking between Culver and Barrett - which do you choose and what's the main deciding factor?


I don’t have the courage to pass on Barrett’s pedigree even though I haven’t liked his game at Duke. So Barrett.
Contribute to the "Fire GarPax" billboard here:
https://www.gofundme.com/3v7fc-let-our-voices-be-heard-firegarpax
Illmatic12
RealGM
Posts: 10,161
And1: 8,459
Joined: Dec 20, 2013
 

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#104 » by Illmatic12 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:18 am

Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 64,015
And1: 70,218
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#105 » by clyde21 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:22 am

Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


close...IF Ingram checks out medically I'll go Ingram tho
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
doordoor123
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,776
And1: 1,234
Joined: Jul 23, 2013

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#106 » by doordoor123 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:23 am

Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


When Ingram is in his prime he’s going to be way better than Culver will be in his prime. It’s like comparing Kevin Durant to Jimmy Butler. Not saying either will become those players, but Ingram’s upside is out of this world if he ever reaches it. Culver isn’t going to be a franchise-changer, like Ingram can be.
User avatar
pelifan
RealGM
Posts: 14,237
And1: 21,691
Joined: Aug 12, 2014
Location: Small market
 

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#107 » by pelifan » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:14 pm

Ill take Culver over both as of right now. If I'm wrong so be it
Image
Stillwater
RealGM
Posts: 15,734
And1: 3,655
Joined: Jun 15, 2017
   

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#108 » by Stillwater » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:30 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


Ingram the same player who has done nothing to justify getting picked in the high lottery? That Ingram? Culver and it's not even close.
SUNDOWN BRINGS A WELCOME CHANGE TO EVERYTHING THAT'S HIDING
King Ken
General Manager
Posts: 9,773
And1: 5,480
Joined: Jul 01, 2014
   

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#109 » by King Ken » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:41 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Ruzious wrote:You're picking between Culver and Barrett - which do you choose and what's the main deciding factor?


Culver because of his all around game. I.e. I don't see Barrett as a ball dominant player that you want to build around, whereas Culver's secondary playmaking skills make him more valuable across the board, imo. Any team can build _with_ a guy like Culver.

R.J. is a better playmaker than Culver tho
Illmatic12
RealGM
Posts: 10,161
And1: 8,459
Joined: Dec 20, 2013
 

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#110 » by Illmatic12 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:17 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


close...IF Ingram checks out medically I'll go Ingram tho

doordoor123 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


When Ingram is in his prime he’s going to be way better than Culver will be in his prime. It’s like comparing Kevin Durant to Jimmy Butler. Not saying either will become those players, but Ingram’s upside is out of this world if he ever reaches it. Culver isn’t going to be a franchise-changer, like Ingram can be.

What are you guys reasons for preferring Ingram? The main thing I see separating them is his pedigree as a scorer coming into the league is undeniably higher than what Jarrett has done. And BI probably has a slightly tighter handle

Was thinking about this last night. It's common to knock Culver for not having a "superstar wing" first step ala Paul George etc, but Ingram is an example of how he could succeed at the NBA level without blowby speed. The advantage BI has is he's so long , he is able to stride to the basket and get the ball up on the rim even if the defender is on his hip.

Culver has those same looong strides and the ability to extend his arms and finish with english. Plus his upper body is like twice Ingram's size so he can take contact and finish strong. If you believe he will develop his jumpshot at the next level, there's an argument to be made that he can be a much better version of Ingram.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter
doordoor123
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,776
And1: 1,234
Joined: Jul 23, 2013

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#111 » by doordoor123 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:22 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


close...IF Ingram checks out medically I'll go Ingram tho

doordoor123 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


When Ingram is in his prime he’s going to be way better than Culver will be in his prime. It’s like comparing Kevin Durant to Jimmy Butler. Not saying either will become those players, but Ingram’s upside is out of this world if he ever reaches it. Culver isn’t going to be a franchise-changer, like Ingram can be.

What are you guys reasons for preferring Ingram? The main thing I see separating them is his pedigree as a scorer coming into the league is undeniably higher than what Jarrett has done. And BI probably has a slightly tighter handle

Was thinking about this last night. It's common to knock Culver for not having a "superstar wing" first step ala Paul George etc, but Ingram is an example of how he could succeed at the NBA level without blowby speed. The advantage BI has is he's so long , he is able to stride to the basket and get the ball up on the rim even if the defender is on his hip.

Culver has those same looong strides and the ability to extend his arms and finish with english. Plus his upper body is like twice Ingram's size so he can take contact and finish strong. If you believe he will develop his jumpshot at the next level, there's an argument to be made that he can be a much better version of Ingram.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


Length, Ingram can’t only handle the ball, he’s extremely long with huge hands, can easily draw fouls and finish through contact. His defense can be a game changer with his length, like the kind of player that effects an entire team’s defense. Ingram can literally have an unstoppable shot like Durant and he already has been developing a turnaround fadeaway that can be lethal with more practice. He can never be Ingram, physically they’re completely different with completely different skills. I actually think it’s hilarious you think that because it’s so far from reality. It’s like declaring you’re actually a penguin.
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 64,015
And1: 70,218
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#112 » by clyde21 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:27 pm

Brandon Ingram just projects to be a more explosive scorer and is a twitchier athlete
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
EMG518
Veteran
Posts: 2,842
And1: 942
Joined: Mar 11, 2012

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#113 » by EMG518 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:33 pm

I don't know, Culver may wind up better than Ingram.
Duke4life831
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 36,697
And1: 67,361
Joined: Jun 16, 2015
 

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#114 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:54 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


close...IF Ingram checks out medically I'll go Ingram tho

doordoor123 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


When Ingram is in his prime he’s going to be way better than Culver will be in his prime. It’s like comparing Kevin Durant to Jimmy Butler. Not saying either will become those players, but Ingram’s upside is out of this world if he ever reaches it. Culver isn’t going to be a franchise-changer, like Ingram can be.

What are you guys reasons for preferring Ingram? The main thing I see separating them is his pedigree as a scorer coming into the league is undeniably higher than what Jarrett has done. And BI probably has a slightly tighter handle

Was thinking about this last night. It's common to knock Culver for not having a "superstar wing" first step ala Paul George etc, but Ingram is an example of how he could succeed at the NBA level without blowby speed. The advantage BI has is he's so long , he is able to stride to the basket and get the ball up on the rim even if the defender is on his hip.

Culver has those same looong strides and the ability to extend his arms and finish with english. Plus his upper body is like twice Ingram's size so he can take contact and finish strong. If you believe he will develop his jumpshot at the next level, there's an argument to be made that he can be a much better version of Ingram.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


Over the 2nd half of the season, Ingram was a 20/6/4 guy on over 50% shooting from the floor and playing good versatile defense. Ingram can get to the rim whenever he wants and finishes at the rim at a high rate (68%). That is a hell of a skill to fall back on.
King Ken
General Manager
Posts: 9,773
And1: 5,480
Joined: Jul 01, 2014
   

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#115 » by King Ken » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:05 pm

A lot of these Culver points don't translate in today's league
EMG518
Veteran
Posts: 2,842
And1: 942
Joined: Mar 11, 2012

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#116 » by EMG518 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:11 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
close...IF Ingram checks out medically I'll go Ingram tho

doordoor123 wrote:
When Ingram is in his prime he’s going to be way better than Culver will be in his prime. It’s like comparing Kevin Durant to Jimmy Butler. Not saying either will become those players, but Ingram’s upside is out of this world if he ever reaches it. Culver isn’t going to be a franchise-changer, like Ingram can be.

What are you guys reasons for preferring Ingram? The main thing I see separating them is his pedigree as a scorer coming into the league is undeniably higher than what Jarrett has done. And BI probably has a slightly tighter handle

Was thinking about this last night. It's common to knock Culver for not having a "superstar wing" first step ala Paul George etc, but Ingram is an example of how he could succeed at the NBA level without blowby speed. The advantage BI has is he's so long , he is able to stride to the basket and get the ball up on the rim even if the defender is on his hip.

Culver has those same looong strides and the ability to extend his arms and finish with english. Plus his upper body is like twice Ingram's size so he can take contact and finish strong. If you believe he will develop his jumpshot at the next level, there's an argument to be made that he can be a much better version of Ingram.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


Over the 2nd half of the season, Ingram was a 20/6/4 guy on over 50% shooting from the floor and playing good versatile defense. Ingram can get to the rim whenever he wants and finishes at the rim at a high rate (68%). That is a hell of a skill to fall back on.



He is a mid range guy playing in a 3 dominant league, can't shoot from the foul line, a bit of an iso ball stopper, not bringing a ton as of yet defensively to the table. I am not sold on him. He needs to really improve in a few areas.
LoveTheNBA23
Senior
Posts: 684
And1: 683
Joined: May 22, 2015
       

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#117 » by LoveTheNBA23 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:14 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


close...IF Ingram checks out medically I'll go Ingram tho

doordoor123 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:Who would you take longterm - Jarrett Culver or Brandon Ingram?


When Ingram is in his prime he’s going to be way better than Culver will be in his prime. It’s like comparing Kevin Durant to Jimmy Butler. Not saying either will become those players, but Ingram’s upside is out of this world if he ever reaches it. Culver isn’t going to be a franchise-changer, like Ingram can be.

What are you guys reasons for preferring Ingram? The main thing I see separating them is his pedigree as a scorer coming into the league is undeniably higher than what Jarrett has done. And BI probably has a slightly tighter handle

Was thinking about this last night. It's common to knock Culver for not having a "superstar wing" first step ala Paul George etc, but Ingram is an example of how he could succeed at the NBA level without blowby speed. The advantage BI has is he's so long , he is able to stride to the basket and get the ball up on the rim even if the defender is on his hip.

Culver has those same looong strides and the ability to extend his arms and finish with english. Plus his upper body is like twice Ingram's size so he can take contact and finish strong. If you believe he will develop his jumpshot at the next level, there's an argument to be made that he can be a much better version of Ingram.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


I really like Culver but Ingram has a much higher ceiling. Reaching it won't be easy but he has definitely made a jump in 2019 and especially Post ASB. 28-8-3 with a TS% 65 in only six games but you could tell something just clicked for him. Ingram has unteachable length, Lakers 2nd best defender (doesn't gamble, recovers well) and his ball handling has gotten better year after year. Plus he finishes in the paint at the same efficiency as third year Giannis. Two things BI needs to work on is his three ball and free throws which both got a lot better in 2019 too.
Stillwater
RealGM
Posts: 15,734
And1: 3,655
Joined: Jun 15, 2017
   

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#118 » by Stillwater » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:40 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
close...IF Ingram checks out medically I'll go Ingram tho

doordoor123 wrote:
When Ingram is in his prime he’s going to be way better than Culver will be in his prime. It’s like comparing Kevin Durant to Jimmy Butler. Not saying either will become those players, but Ingram’s upside is out of this world if he ever reaches it. Culver isn’t going to be a franchise-changer, like Ingram can be.

What are you guys reasons for preferring Ingram? The main thing I see separating them is his pedigree as a scorer coming into the league is undeniably higher than what Jarrett has done. And BI probably has a slightly tighter handle

Was thinking about this last night. It's common to knock Culver for not having a "superstar wing" first step ala Paul George etc, but Ingram is an example of how he could succeed at the NBA level without blowby speed. The advantage BI has is he's so long , he is able to stride to the basket and get the ball up on the rim even if the defender is on his hip.

Culver has those same looong strides and the ability to extend his arms and finish with english. Plus his upper body is like twice Ingram's size so he can take contact and finish strong. If you believe he will develop his jumpshot at the next level, there's an argument to be made that he can be a much better version of Ingram.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


Length, Ingram can’t only handle the ball, he’s extremely long with huge hands, can easily draw fouls and finish through contact. His defense can be a game changer with his length, like the kind of player that effects an entire team’s defense. Ingram can literally have an unstoppable shot like Durant and he already has been developing a turnaround fadeaway that can be lethal with more practice. He can never be Ingram, physically they’re completely different with completely different skills. I actually think it’s hilarious you think that because it’s so far from reality. It’s like declaring you’re actually a penguin.

Ingram isn't going to ever be more than he is now.
SUNDOWN BRINGS A WELCOME CHANGE TO EVERYTHING THAT'S HIDING
Illmatic12
RealGM
Posts: 10,161
And1: 8,459
Joined: Dec 20, 2013
 

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#119 » by Illmatic12 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:45 pm

Does Culver have a wingspan measurement on record? We will find out in June but if he measures in with a 7'+ wingspan , that will be a major advantage for him that should translate in the league .

And I guess I view Ingram differently from some of you all. He is an isolation-heavy midrange player.. he is easy to scout because he initiates ALL of his halfcourt offense with the ball in his hands from the top of the key. Basically what we're seeing is another Derozan-style offensive player due to his avoidance of the 3pt line. What I actually like about BI the most (other than his nascent playmaking chops) is his defensive versatility , but even then he can't guard a lot of frontcourt players because of his frame.

Culver doesn't have the ballstopping tendencies of Ingram , he has a better understanding of how to move off the ball and even sets screens for his teammates. Which is why I think he'll more effectively integrate into a modern NBA offense (which Ingram's Lakers are not). Defensively Culver WILL be able to guard many NBA 4s which makes him more versatile, he won't always be guarded by quicker players if you line him up at PF. I just see more potential for Culver over Ingram as a weapon who glues an offense together and fortifies a defense.

But to be clear, I made this comparison because Culver *looks* like he's grown to a legit NBA wing/forward size and can be compared to a different class of players . If it turns out our eyes were deceiving us lol, and he measures in at like 6'6 with a 6'10 wingspan then this will all be moot.
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 64,015
And1: 70,218
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: Jarrett Culver 

Post#120 » by clyde21 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:03 pm

it looks like he'll come in at about 7' wingspan but we'll see
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن

Return to NBA Draft