2022 NBA Draft

[clyde21]

lol Collins wingspan/hand size is just absurd

[europeannbafan]

lol Collins wingspan/hand size is just absurd

If I am not wrong,every year the Wildcats at their pro day ,they measure all their players and publish the measurements so we will know his wingspan etc

[Nuntius]

Damn what have they been feeding Banchero? Gotta give Chet some of that lol.

He looks like a bigger Cade. Humugous is an understatement.

Sure he’s a high school kid? Nah fam that’s a grown ass man legit no baby man size growing into the body either.

I mean really he could play in the league right now just on size alone.

It’s why it’s ridiculous that he wasn’t already in a pro environment playing against grown men as a junior.

We as a country are going to get passed by in creating most of the future MVP candidates by those developed in Euroleague (Luka, Giannis). It’s a huge advantage that Luka was playing pro at 15. We are already pivoting to this model in soccer to become competitive in that sport and now we should do it in basketball to maintain our dominance.

Guys like Banchero, Hardy, Chet, Emoni, etc shouldn’t be wasting time just because it’s an American cultural thing to do so.

I disagree. Luka, Jokic and Giannis are anomalies. The latter two especially. The only Euros who are thriving in the NBA are oversized wings and bigs. After those three, there is a huge dropoff in talent.

The latter two also never played in the EuroLeague. I am aware that "EuroLeague" is sometimes used as short-hand for all European leagues but it is important to recognize that they didn't play in the top level and they were still immensely successful in the NBA.

[clyde21]

lol Collins wingspan/hand size is just absurd

If I am not wrong,every year the Wildcats at their pro day ,they measure all their players and publish the measurements so we will know his wingspan etc

wingspan most likely in the 7-5 range if I had to guess.

[Marcus]

lol Collins wingspan/hand size is just absurd

If I am not wrong,every year the Wildcats at their pro day ,they measure all their players and publish the measurements so we will know his wingspan etc

wingspan most likely in the 7-5 range if I had to guess.

think he may be a darkhorse to unseat Chet if the potential translates?

[clyde21]

If I am not wrong,every year the Wildcats at their pro day ,they measure all their players and publish the measurements so we will know his wingspan etc

wingspan most likely in the 7-5 range if I had to guess.

think he may be a darkhorse to unseat Chet if the potential translates?

no way he's still far away from that...only one that might be able to unseat Chet is Paolo but even then tho, I think Chet right now is a good beat ahead of everyone else

[Marcus]

wingspan most likely in the 7-5 range if I had to guess.

think he may be a darkhorse to unseat Chet if the potential translates?

no way he's still far away from that...only one that might be able to unseat Chet is Paolo but even then tho, I think Chet right now is a good beat ahead of everyone else

wanna see the rate this kid learns at on the floor. the physical gifts are plentiful as a baseline though. If he has a high improvement rate there may be chatter. See how Cal uses him.

[ROballer]

Revisiting the discussion from the Wembanyama thread.

There should be a petition in place to soften the draft rules. Players removed a year from highschool or born up until 12/31/2003(19th birthday in the calendar year) are eligible for the draft according to the rules.

Wembanyama is born on 01/04/2004. He's gonna be 18.6 years old at 2022 draft day(18.8 years at a potential debut), but because he was born 4 days too late to be eligible he's gonna miss a full year of getting paid NBA #1 pick money and he's gonna get drafted at 19.6 years old. And he'll make his debut at 19.8 years.


It's one of the worst rules I have ever seen. 4 **** days, that's it.


For example, Giannis was born on December 6th. So there's less than a month difference between their draft ages and league debuts but he's eligible by that stupid rule while Victor isn't. And I'm sure I could find more examples of guys closer to that 31 January deadline.

Give a month leash to that rule for Pete's sake, it's absurd to abide 100% by that written rule. It's in the league's best interest after all to have the best talent available as soon as possible.
I don't need to see Vic playing 2 more years in Europe. I've seen enough, he'll be more than ready after 1 year.

[europeannbafan]

Revisiting the discussion from the Wembanyama thread.

There should be a petition in place to soften the draft rules. Players removed a year from highschool or born up until 12/31/2003(19th birthday in the calendar year) are eligible for the draft according to the rules.

Wembanyama is born on 04/01/2004. He's gonna be 18.6 years old at 2022 draft day(18.8 years at the potential debut), but because he was born 4 days too late to be eligible he's gonna miss a full year of getting paid NBA #1 pick money and he's gonna get drafted at 19.6 years old. And he'll make his debut at 19.8 years.


It's one of the worst rules I have ever seen. 4 **** days, that's it.


For example, Giannis was born on December 6th. So there's less than a month difference between their draft ages and league debuts but he's eligible by that stupid rule while Victor isn't. And I'm sure I could find more examples of guys closer to that 31 January deadline.

Give a month leash to that rule for Pete's sake, it's absurd to abide 100% by that written rule. It's in the league's best interest after all to have the best talent available as soon as possible.
I don't need to see Vic playing 2 more years in Europe. I've seen enough, he'll be more than ready after 1 year.

You are absolutely right.
If it wasn't this stupid rule for example Jalen Green would have reclassified and would have been a draft pick the previous year.( after playing in college or gleague)
Is what keeps Emoni Bates also from reclassifing because he knows that even if he does so, he still won't be eligible for the 2022 draft.

[ROballer]

Yeah, good calls. Emoni is born on Jan 28 and Jalen Green on Feb 9, also really close.

But it's not 4 days..

I mean if they are sticking by this written rule to the death, it's a small chance but it could happen...a guy is born on Dec 31 and can enter his name in the draft, a guys is born on Jan 1st and cannot. While being only a day difference between them.

There should be even a slight lenience in there, I'm sure even the NBA is seeing the absurdity of the situation.

[Marcus]

how many additional days would you give as leeway?

[ROballer]

Almost anything you would/could give him would have made him eligible, since it's a 4 day difference


The rule is stupid in the first place. Why 19? In almost every part of the world you become an adult at 18.
If you have to set an age rule that can be absolutely undisputable it would have been this one. At least 18 years of age at draft day.

Sure, there would have been examples of players that will turn 18 days after the draft but at least that number, 18, is almost universally seen as the adulthood mark. Nobody would have anything to say about it.



But the rule being 19 at the end of the calendar year(regardless of draft age/ debut age) and considering your question...

A month I think it's fair. At most a month between the last eligible day for any given guy and the unlucky guy who was born a little too late. In this case Emoni Bates would have been eligible as well.

A matter of days is just absurd to me. Again, it's 4 in Victor's case, but you could hypothetically get to 1 at some point if there's not any lenience on the rule.

[ROballer]

Josh Primo is born on Dec 24 2002 and he's in the 2021 Draft. He made the eligibility requirements by 7 days(a week).

He's only 1 year and 10 days older than Wembanyama, but they'll be separated by two draft classes in the end because of the rules.

[clyde21]

Josh Primo is born on Dec 24 2002 and he's in the 2021 Draft. He made the eligibility requirements by 7 days(a week).

He's only 1 year and 10 days older than Wembanyama, but they'll be separated by two draft classes in the end because of the rules.

the rules are trash and make no sense and have never made sense.

we got 10 year olds out here changing genders but god forbid we allow someone to play basketball before a certain age.

[DCasey91]

The rules for NBA are ridiculous imo. I know firsthand 16 year olds playing world class top level international games from debut that’s their age, all for keeps and they were ready for years lol. They already trained with the best of the best so it isn’t something that’s foreign to them at all.

If they are that good let them play in the environment that’s most suitable it’s what I’ve experienced time and time again.

People might think physical yadadada, does not matter one bit. AFL, Cricket, Soccer. Haha AFL? Some youngsters at 18 are already better then half the list. Because they’ve been playing with Men for years (Club/State level).

If your are a class above (in Victor’s, Chet and Banchero’s case clearly levels above). There isn’t much to gain here.

Big fish little pond
Small fish big ocean

They’ll be fine why? Because they are playing at the level that suits their talents not far below nuff nuff stuff.

It holds up their uptick for a year+.

Once again imagine Banchero at 16-17 legit training with the Lakers second/first unit for over a pre-season (2). That’s 2 off-seasons worth of class ball running sets with AD/LBJ or bench units. You actually learn pro ball. 100% no in High School or College.

Happens all the time for other sports.

That >>>>> high school or college not close.

That’s what’s meant about professional/academy development.

AAU ball I believe will bring in more and more unfinished and Swiss cheese game prospect (holes galore) because of the way it’s played today. It’s encouraged now to volumise things at the expense of actually developing ones game.

Cade for his flaws is actually a smart cookie. For his lack of athleticism (which is abit of a concern for his overall finished product) has actually worked on his 5 point hourglass shot markers while in College.

That outside of whatever examination will hold more true at the next level. The translatable thing reigns supreme here.

RJ didn’t. He’s still playing catch up in his second year he got better but those sorts of things are fundamentally sound ball. At his size that should be down pat in high school but they aren’t taught that way.

[EvanZ]

Almost anything you would/could give him would have made him eligible, since it's a 4 day difference


The rule is stupid in the first place. Why 19?

I mean isn't it obviously to prevent most kids being drafted straight out of high school?

[Chuck Everett]

Yeah, good calls. Emoni is born on Jan 28 and Jalen Green on Feb 9, also really close.

But it's not 4 days..

I mean if they are sticking by this written rule to the death, it's a small chance but it could happen...a guy is born on Dec 31 and can enter his name in the draft, a guys is born on Jan 1st and cannot. While being only a day difference between them.

There should be even a slight lenience in there, I'm sure even the NBA is seeing the absurdity of the situation.

It is collectively bargained between the league and its players. You guys say stuff without understanding they have rules for a reason and they are negotiated.

[Duke4life831]

Read on Twitter

Just a summer scrimmage. But hey thought I’d throw this in here. Can’t take much from it (because again just a summer scrimmage) but thought it was interesting how much Paolo was bringing the ball up and looking like a pretty Paolo centric offense. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

Also if Paolo really is 6’11, then my guy AJ is looking like a legit 6’7-6’8.

[DCasey91]

He has the little Magic wiggle when he goes up the floor.

I mean Banchero is huge. You might as well try the A 6”10 Lebron system. And helio it that way.

At Duke it should have been Zion taking all the shots and the offense built around him. But it’s hard sometimes with showcased prized prospects on the one team.

Man NBA really needs academic/domestic world class stuff fast.

[God Squad]

Read on Twitter

Just a summer scrimmage. But hey thought I’d throw this in here. Can’t take much from it (because again just a summer scrimmage) but thought it was interesting how much Paolo was bringing the ball up and looking like a pretty Paolo centric offense. Hopefully this is a sign of things to come.

Also if Paolo really is 6’11, then my guy AJ is looking like a legit 6’7-6’8.

AJ had a hard time covering Paolo in that clip. Paolo looks like a legit 6'10 - 6'11.