Cam Whitmore

[MasterIchiro]

I like the like the OG comp for Cam. It gives me hope. I don't need anything more than that. I'm a huge OG fan. Huuuuuuuge.

[WargamesX]

His footwork and physicality could make him special

[SeattleJazzFan]

I forgot what he looked like in his USA highlights. He legit looks like hes in better shape here than he did at any point in this Villanova season. I really think he bulked up a bit too much too fast.

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i have no doubt that was one of his issues from his season at nova. too thick, carrying too much weight. he was so explosive during that usa summer.

[cms11]

Lol no, not even close


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Classic post here.

Laugh at someone else's opinion, then offer nothing at all of any substance to back up yours.

Also, I said that's his ceiling. If you don't think he will reach that ceiling, ok whatever. Not every player reaches their ceiling.

Everyone’s ceiling is a HOF caliber player. I get it. I mean if a dude’s ceiling is 6’7” Ant that’s a future league MVP and HOFer. You should probably take him ahead of Wemby tbh. Basically Michael Jordan.


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Saying someone has a ceiling doesn't mean you think the odds are likely of the player reaching that ceiling.

[cms11]

I forgot what he looked like in his USA highlights. He legit looks like hes in better shape here than he did at any point in this Villanova season. I really think he bulked up a bit too much too fast.

Whitmore seems to be suffering from Zion disease. Players need to learn that a bigger upper body isn't necessarily better.

[K_chile22]

Classic post here.

Laugh at someone else's opinion, then offer nothing at all of any substance to back up yours.

Also, I said that's his ceiling. If you don't think he will reach that ceiling, ok whatever. Not every player reaches their ceiling.

Everyone’s ceiling is a HOF caliber player. I get it. I mean if a dude’s ceiling is 6’7” Ant that’s a future league MVP and HOFer. You should probably take him ahead of Wemby tbh. Basically Michael Jordan.


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Saying someone has a ceiling doesn't mean you think the odds are likely of the player reaching that ceiling.

Yeah there's an extremely small % of players that actually hit their ceilings. Even if you don't think Whitmore's ceiling is that high that was a weird response

[EvanZ]

Everyone’s ceiling is a HOF caliber player. I get it. I mean if a dude’s ceiling is 6’7” Ant that’s a future league MVP and HOFer. You should probably take him ahead of Wemby tbh. Basically Michael Jordan.


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Saying someone has a ceiling doesn't mean you think the odds are likely of the player reaching that ceiling.

Yeah there's an extremely small % of players that actually hit their ceilings. Even if you don't think Whitmore's ceiling is that high that was a weird response

It's actually one of the most reasonable comments in this forum. "Ceiling" is cited way too often with way too little thought. Cam's ceiling actually isn't that high. He's actually not such an elite athlete, definitely not an elite athlete laterally. He's got average length at best for his position. His handle is extremely suspect. His defensive IQ is questionable. He's got terrible court vision and plays selfishly.

Honestly, it's hilarious to me that people think he has an incredibly high ceiling. Why? "Because he jumps high"?

[CptCrunch]

Saying someone has a ceiling doesn't mean you think the odds are likely of the player reaching that ceiling.

Yeah there's an extremely small % of players that actually hit their ceilings. Even if you don't think Whitmore's ceiling is that high that was a weird response

It's actually one of the most reasonable comments in this forum. "Ceiling" is cited way too often with way too little thought. Cam's ceiling actually isn't that high. He's actually not such an elite athlete, definitely not an elite athlete laterally. He's got average length at best for his position. His handle is extremely suspect. His defensive IQ is questionable. He's got terrible court vision and plays selfishly.

Honestly, it's hilarious to me that people think he has an incredibly high ceiling. Why? "Because he jumps high"?

People also fail to understand potential and ceiling. 99 out of every 100 prospect don't develop like Giannis or Butler. Having tools doesn't automatically make a prospect high potential. Ceiling should be defined on some quantile basis, for the past 10 (really 100 but this is unrealistic) prospect like this, what is the 2-3rd best outcome of the 10 players, that's is realistically the ceiling of a player.

[clyde21]

funny thing about this convo is that it isn't the ceiling the makes Whitmore a good prospect, it's the median outcome

[kobyz]

He's not just a smaller Rui?

[HiDef]

He's not just a smaller Rui?

He's probably on another level as an athlete than Rui, even though Rui is himself very athletic

It's funny we're talking about Cam Whitmore can't defend, pass, dribble. neither can All-NBA shooting guard Jaylen Brown. the bar is on the floor when you're this kind of athlete

[Hal14]

He's not just a smaller Rui?

He's probably on another level as an athlete than Rui, even though Rui is himself very athletic

It's funny we're talking about Cam Whitmore can't defend, pass, dribble. neither can All-NBA shooting guard Jaylen Brown. the bar is on the floor when you're this kind of athlete

Yup. If Whitmore is smart, he's studying the sh&t out of all the Jaylen Brown and Anthony Edwards film he can find and trying to model his game after them.

[EvanZ]

He's not just a smaller Rui?

He's probably on another level as an athlete than Rui, even though Rui is himself very athletic

It's funny we're talking about Cam Whitmore can't defend, pass, dribble. neither can All-NBA shooting guard Jaylen Brown. the bar is on the floor when you're this kind of athlete

Jaylen is on another level of passing and dribbling compared to Cam. Cam is more like Harrison Barnes.

[HiDef]

He's not just a smaller Rui?

He's probably on another level as an athlete than Rui, even though Rui is himself very athletic

It's funny we're talking about Cam Whitmore can't defend, pass, dribble. neither can All-NBA shooting guard Jaylen Brown. the bar is on the floor when you're this kind of athlete

Jaylen is on another level of passing and dribbling compared to Cam. Cam is more like Harrison Barnes.

Passing I agree, but I don't think Whitmore is that bad with the ball in his hands. He's just kind of a straight line athlete

[EvanZ]

Passing I agree, but I don't think Whitmore is that bad with the ball in his hands. He's just kind of a straight line athlete

That's because he doesn't have a great handle. I don't think he really has the burst either tbh.

[HiDef]

Passing I agree, but I don't think Whitmore is that bad with the ball in his hands. He's just kind of a straight line athlete

That's because he doesn't have a great handle. I don't think he really has the burst either tbh.

I like the burst, I think the flashes with the cross, spin are promising. he's strong as hell too. Would be nice if he could rise up like Jaylen, but I think he's a good value in the top 5-7 range

[Upperclass]

He's Joey Graham.. I think he's a very small 4 for someone if he sticks in the league

[SeattleJazzFan]

He's not just a smaller Rui?

He's probably on another level as an athlete than Rui, even though Rui is himself very athletic

It's funny we're talking about Cam Whitmore can't defend, pass, dribble. neither can All-NBA shooting guard Jaylen Brown. the bar is on the floor when you're this kind of athlete

Jaylen is on another level of passing and dribbling compared to Cam. Cam is more like Harrison Barnes.

jaylen definitely is on another level. 7 years of nba experience will do that for a guy.

coming out of Cal, however, they are about on par - neither guy very advanced at passing or dribbling. give brown a lot of credit for working hard and improving those aspects of his game. maybe cam can do the same - not sure of his work ethic.

[EvanZ]

coming out of Cal, however, they are about on par - neither guy very advanced at passing or dribbling. give brown a lot of credit for working hard and improving those aspects of his game. maybe cam can do the same - not sure of his work ethic.

1. You can't count on any arbitrary player to improve as much as Jaylen Brown. That's fools gold (basically how every Warriors fan thinks Kuminga can become Jaylen Brown).

2. Jaylen Brown actually had much more of a guard role at Cal. He handled the ball a ton. He also turned it over a lot, but his A:T ratio was 0.67. Cam's is even worse at 0.43 with only 0.7 ast per game compared to 2 ast per game for Jaylen at Cal.

[clyde21]

Jay B had a 7' wingspan

not convinced Brown had better handles/playmaking chops coming out tho, those two things were very problematic for Brown and still are to a large degree.

i actually think Whitmore handle/self-creation is better than what Jay B's was at Cal.