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Acuff is clearly a better prospect than Paul at the same age.
This doesn't mean he will be better than CP3 in the league. CP3 is arguably the greatest PG of all times.
This also doesn't mean he will translate well. We rank prospect pre-draft. Post draft in the league, that's where the development really occurs.
This doesn't mean he will be better than CP3 in the league. CP3 is arguably the greatest PG of all times.
This also doesn't mean he will translate well. We rank prospect pre-draft. Post draft in the league, that's where the development really occurs.
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As a Kings fan my concern is we need a franchise guy. The guy. Can they really hitch their wagon to a 6’1.5’’ guard who does not defend and will get hunted? I just can not see that as smart team building. If they had another guy already…ok. Maybe that makes sense.
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CptCrunch wrote:Acuff is clearly a better prospect than Paul at the same age.
This doesn't mean he will be better than CP3 in the league. CP3 is arguably the greatest PG of all times.
This also doesn't mean he will translate well. We rank prospect pre-draft. Post draft in the league, that's where the development really occurs.
Piffft......
CP3 couldn't carry Stephs gym bag...
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SNPA wrote:As a Kings fan my concern is we need a franchise guy. The guy. Can they really hitch their wagon to a 6’1.5’’ guard who does not defend and will get hunted? I just can not see that as smart team building. If they has another guy already…ok. Maybe that makes sense.
Acuff is a similar talent to Fox. Good enough to get you to the dance with some surrounding talent but ultimately not enough to make deep playoff runs. That might be as reasonable expectation for this franchise given its market tbh. Hopefully we have a top 4 pick and don't have to worry about picking a small guard.
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:SNPA wrote:As a Kings fan my concern is we need a franchise guy. The guy. Can they really hitch their wagon to a 6’1.5’’ guard who does not defend and will get hunted? I just can not see that as smart team building. If they has another guy already…ok. Maybe that makes sense.
Acuff is a similar talent to Fox. Good enough to get you to the dance with some surrounding talent but ultimately not enough to make deep playoff runs. That might be as reasonable expectation for this franchise given its market tbh. Hopefully we have a top 4 pick and don't have to worry about picking a small guard.
We just did that though with Fox. I really don’t want to do it again. I’d pick Wagler. No more being small.
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SNPA wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:SNPA wrote:As a Kings fan my concern is we need a franchise guy. The guy. Can they really hitch their wagon to a 6’1.5’’ guard who does not defend and will get hunted? I just can not see that as smart team building. If they has another guy already…ok. Maybe that makes sense.
Acuff is a similar talent to Fox. Good enough to get you to the dance with some surrounding talent but ultimately not enough to make deep playoff runs. That might be as reasonable expectation for this franchise given its market tbh. Hopefully we have a top 4 pick and don't have to worry about picking a small guard.
We just did that though with Fox. I really don’t want to do it again. I’d pick Wagler. No more being small.
Acuff is literally shooting 20% better on 3s than Fox did in college, with more assists and fewer turnovers. Acuff is easily the better prospect.
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Being small is a grave sin in the NBA. We have no small stars in the league. You need to be legit NBA 2guard size to be MVP level player.
The most you can hope for is a Mitchell or Brunson, both of whom I think are chronically overrated year over year.
A team need to weigh the limited absolute max upside if they draft Acuff. If they are happy with an all-star then no problem, chance for MVP are gonna be so negligibly low. This isn't to single out Acuff, all of this year's small guards have the same problem.
Teams these days want player of Cade's size or at least Harden's size. This also explains why we have DNP, AJ, Boozer over all these nice small guards. Small guards this year has been historically productive in college.
The most you can hope for is a Mitchell or Brunson, both of whom I think are chronically overrated year over year.
A team need to weigh the limited absolute max upside if they draft Acuff. If they are happy with an all-star then no problem, chance for MVP are gonna be so negligibly low. This isn't to single out Acuff, all of this year's small guards have the same problem.
Teams these days want player of Cade's size or at least Harden's size. This also explains why we have DNP, AJ, Boozer over all these nice small guards. Small guards this year has been historically productive in college.
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Jamal Murray deserves more credit. He can shoot and doesn't have a high turnover rate. That's not the case with Trae. Trae's brought the turnovers from college to the NBA.JMAC3 wrote:Trae Young issue is he makes 45 million per year, drafting Acuff and paying him 8 million the next 4 years is a massively different value play. I think teams need to be warry what they pay these guys but acting as if they have no place in the league to be drafted is a mistake.
Also, so much matters on the team you are on. Jamal Murray would probably be viewed in same light as Trae Young if he was on the Hawks and Wizards instead of playing next to the best player in the league. Even Kyrie who has played his whole career next to LeBron, Tatum, Durant and Luka.
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CP3 is gets more overrated by the day here on Realgm.CptCrunch wrote:Acuff is clearly a better prospect than Paul at the same age.
This doesn't mean he will be better than CP3 in the league. CP3 is arguably the greatest PG of all times.
This also doesn't mean he will translate well. We rank prospect pre-draft. Post draft in the league, that's where the development really occurs.
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tontoz wrote:SNPA wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:
Acuff is a similar talent to Fox. Good enough to get you to the dance with some surrounding talent but ultimately not enough to make deep playoff runs. That might be as reasonable expectation for this franchise given its market tbh. Hopefully we have a top 4 pick and don't have to worry about picking a small guard.
We just did that though with Fox. I really don’t want to do it again. I’d pick Wagler. No more being small.
Acuff is literally shooting 20% better on 3s than Fox did in college, with more assists and fewer turnovers. Acuff is easily the better prospect.
it's debatable. Fox was the much better defender and he wasn't given the green light and usage like Acuff is. He went #5 in a loaded draft for a reason and I'm guessing Acuff goes around there in this loaded draft.
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:tontoz wrote:SNPA wrote:We just did that though with Fox. I really don’t want to do it again. I’d pick Wagler. No more being small.
Acuff is literally shooting 20% better on 3s than Fox did in college, with more assists and fewer turnovers. Acuff is easily the better prospect.
it's debatable. Fox was the much better defender and he wasn't given the green light and usage like Acuff is. He went #5 in a loaded draft for a reason and I'm guessing Acuff goes around there in this loaded draft.
Acuff has fewer turnovers in spite of a higher usage. The usage isn't that different anyway, 27.5% compared to 29% for Acuff.
If Fox took more shots then his shooting efficiency would have probably been even worse.
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tontoz wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:tontoz wrote:
Acuff is literally shooting 20% better on 3s than Fox did in college, with more assists and fewer turnovers. Acuff is easily the better prospect.
it's debatable. Fox was the much better defender and he wasn't given the green light and usage like Acuff is. He went #5 in a loaded draft for a reason and I'm guessing Acuff goes around there in this loaded draft.
Acuff has fewer turnovers in spite of a higher usage. The usage isn't that different anyway, 27.5% compared to 29% for Acuff.
If Fox took more shots then his shooting efficiency would have probably been even worse.
Fox can play good defense when he wants. That doesn’t seem to the case with Acuff.
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SNPA wrote:tontoz wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:
it's debatable. Fox was the much better defender and he wasn't given the green light and usage like Acuff is. He went #5 in a loaded draft for a reason and I'm guessing Acuff goes around there in this loaded draft.
Acuff has fewer turnovers in spite of a higher usage. The usage isn't that different anyway, 27.5% compared to 29% for Acuff.
If Fox took more shots then his shooting efficiency would have probably been even worse.
Fox can play good defense when he wants. That doesn’t seem to the case with Acuff.
I've seen Acuff play plenty of good defense on ball. He's built like a safety on the football team and moves well. Sometimes I wonder if people talking about him being a bad defender even watch the games.
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Fleming is much more like Fox to me than Acuff.
Fleming is ultra quick, somewhat questionable jumper and relatively low 3pt volume.
Fleming is ultra quick, somewhat questionable jumper and relatively low 3pt volume.
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At the 30.10 mark of the vid below they point out that guys being guarded by Acuff are shooting only 34%.
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SNPA wrote:As a Kings fan my concern is we need a franchise guy. The guy. Can they really hitch their wagon to a 6’1.5’’ guard who does not defend and will get hunted? I just can not see that as smart team building. If they had another guy already…ok. Maybe that makes sense.
Sounds exactly like the kind of guy Vivek would like to hitch the franchise too, unfortunately.
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He might be the worst defender in all of college basketball but it doesnt matter because of how effortless a scorer he is.. he's basically Damian Lillard
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Give me Acuff in Memphis unless we land top 3. Yeah I know he will be hunted, but he looks like AI out there with extended range.
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Acuff isn't nearly the athlete compared to the dudes he's being comped to. He is nowhere remotely close to the level of quickness/explosion of an Iverson or Dame. He's strongly built though.
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tontoz wrote:At the 30.10 mark of the vid below they point out that guys being guarded by Acuff are shooting only 34%.
crickets from those who are parroting the narrative about him being a horrible defender.




