2020 NBA Draft II

[getrichordie]

I'm coming around to the conclusion that RJ Hampton is being a bit underrated in the draft discussion. I think he should go ahead of Anthony and Maxey and would be justified in the top 10.

Welcome aboard, sir.

The real question is: Anthony or Maxey?

[Catchall]

I'm coming around to the conclusion that RJ Hampton is being a bit underrated in the draft discussion. I think he should go ahead of Anthony and Maxey and would be justified in the top 10.

Welcome aboard, sir.

The real question is: Anthony or Maxey?

Hampton's shooting touch is mediocre. That's probably why he's slipping on boards. As an athlete, he's like a shiftier version of Dante Exum, but he's got to finish plays at the rim. He needs to slow down a bit and play a bit more under control.

I have to watch both Anthony and Maxey more. At first glance, I like Maxey more than Anthony.

[getrichordie]

I'm coming around to the conclusion that RJ Hampton is being a bit underrated in the draft discussion. I think he should go ahead of Anthony and Maxey and would be justified in the top 10.

Welcome aboard, sir.

The real question is: Anthony or Maxey?

Hampton's shooting touch is mediocre. That's probably why he's slipping on boards. As an athlete, he's like a shiftier version of Dante Exum, but he's got to finish plays at the rim.

I have to watch both Anthony and Maxey more. At first glance, I like Maxey more than Anthony.

Hampton was a very good shooter in AAU.

per The Stepien:

Although his jumper is not consistent, there is reason to buy the shot. He has good form with no major mechanical issues (and a beautiful follow through), good balance on his jumper, ability to pullup off the bounce with either hand, and FT shooting percentages indicate shooting potential going forward (74.5% according to D1circuit during AAU and his time with New Zealand according to RealGM).

Basically all he has to do is get his base right which is one of the easier things to fix, IMO. But the pull-up shooting potential is there. He takes smart shots, too. He doesn't just jack stuff up like a LaMelo or a Ramsey which is harder to fix, IMO.

He also projects to be a decent ball-handler in P&R situations where he can take advantage of screens and his elite speed to get into the teeth of the defense and make plays.

One international scout even said that his passing was almost as good as LaMelo's, which I think that's a little exaggerated, but he is one of the better passing point guards in this draft.

Another thing he has going for him is he has great size and he's a really fluid athlete with elite-level speed. He's almost always going to be the fastest guy on the court, even in the NBA. His ceiling is just really high because of all of the aforementioned.

[Roddy B for 3]

I'm coming around to the conclusion that RJ Hampton is being a bit underrated in the draft discussion. I think he should go ahead of Anthony and Maxey and would be justified in the top 10.

Welcome aboard, sir.

The real question is: Anthony or Maxey?

I take Anthony by alot. I don't really see the fasination with Maxey either.

[Roddy B for 3]

I'm coming around to the conclusion that RJ Hampton is being a bit underrated in the draft discussion. I think he should go ahead of Anthony and Maxey and would be justified in the top 10.

Welcome aboard, sir.

The real question is: Anthony or Maxey?

Hampton's shooting touch is mediocre. That's probably why he's slipping on boards. As an athlete, he's like a shiftier version of Dante Exum, but he's got to finish plays at the rim. He needs to slow down a bit and play a bit more under control.

I have to watch both Anthony and Maxey more. At first glance, I like Maxey more than Anthony.

Way to take both sides.

[getrichordie]

I'm coming around to the conclusion that RJ Hampton is being a bit underrated in the draft discussion. I think he should go ahead of Anthony and Maxey and would be justified in the top 10.

Welcome aboard, sir.

The real question is: Anthony or Maxey?

I take Anthony by alot. I don't really see the fasination with Maxey either.

No offense, but what? How do you not see the athleticism? The ability to get into the paint? The long range pull-up game? And the killer floater game is there, too.

[Roddy B for 3]

Welcome aboard, sir.

The real question is: Anthony or Maxey?

I take Anthony by alot. I don't really see the fasination with Maxey either.

No offense, but what? How do you not see the athleticism? The ability to get into the paint? The long range pull-up game? And the killer floater game is there, too.

I've only surface level scouted him. He looked like a no defense, waterbug PG, with inefficient shooting and low assist numbers.

If his shooting is inefficient because of pull up threes I'll look at that. I'd be interested if you could post synergy stats about his floater numbers.

I usually don't do more than look at numbers, read game recaps and pay attention to what others say until January and then I catch up with youtubing full games, etc, and watch conference tournaments and March Maddness live.

But I moved cross country in February, so I didn't do much NCAA research until I was settled in, I've only watched a full Cole Anthony and James Wiseman game as of now.

With the pandimic pushing the draft back, I haven't felt the need to watch the games just yet. I'll watch a Kentucky game tonight and judge Maxey a bit more accurately, hopefully.

[getrichordie]

Spoiler:

I take Anthony by alot. I don't really see the fasination with Maxey either.

No offense, but what? How do you not see the athleticism? The ability to get into the paint? The long range pull-up game? And the killer floater game is there, too.

I've only surface level scouted him. He looked like a no defense, waterbug PG, with inefficient shooting and low assist numbers.

If his shooting is inefficient because of pull up threes I'll look at that. I'd be interested if you could post synergy stats about his floater numbers.

I usually don't do more than look at numbers, read game recaps and pay attention to what others say until January and then I catch up with youtubing full games, etc, and watch conference tournaments and March Maddness live.

But I moved cross country in February, so I didn't do much NCAA research until I was settled in, I've only watched a full Cole Anthony and James Wiseman game as of now.

With the pandimic pushing the draft back, I haven't felt the need to watch the games just yet. I'll watch a Kentucky game tonight and judge Maxey a bit more accurately, hopefully.

No need to watch full games. Just watch the scouting videos on youtube to get a good picture of a prospect. Numbers can often be mis-leading.

What does "waterbug PG" mean?

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On another note, I came here to post about Isaac Okoro. His touch is pretty bad at times, but he's still young so it can definitely improve, but man I just watched some terrible possessions. But he also has flashed some pretty awesome driving ability when attacking close-outs like @ 10:22. Also, if you keep watching beyond that mark, you will also see a lob attempt where his head is at the rim. His hops are elite.

Watch on YouTube

[getrichordie]

The "video scout" at Babcock Hoops has Elijah Hughes in the early 30s on his big board. I just don't see it. Sure, Hughes has good size for the wing and is a willing passer and he finishes well at the rim when he's there (about 2.3 @rim attempts per 36), but he's a poor shooter overall and that's going to keep him off the floor at the next level. Maybe he has some hidden defensive potential not showcased in Syracuse's zone defense, but it would have to be substantial for him to stay on the floor and develop a consistent shot.

His mid-range game is strong enough, though and he can hit down wide open 3s so I can see him going somewhere in the 45-60 range.

[No-Man]

i may have missed it but what is the consensus on Jay Scrubb? 2nd rounder with 1st round talent?

He is kinda Bazz Muhammad

[No-Man]

Scrubb is more of a PF in terms of skills really, he def isn't a 2

And as of Hampton, to me he is just so far away, if you buy in it's cause of his personality/work ethic etc, creating his own inefficient pull-up is the only real skill he got

Maybe he puts it together enough to be an Alec Burks type 6th man

[getrichordie]

Scrubb is more of a PF in terms of skills really, he def isn't a 2

And as of Hampton, to me he is just so far away, if you buy in it's cause of his personality/work ethic etc, creating his own inefficient pull-up is the only real skill he got

Maybe he puts it together enough to be an Alec Burks type 6th man

Um, what? Scrubb is not more a PF in terms of skills Are you getting him confused with someone else?

What PFs do you know that have his pull-up skills and ball-handling skills?

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[No-Man]

I don't think the ball handling is particularly impressive, his shooting is good but still more of a SF/PF than a SG/SF to my eye, and most people I trust feel the same way

[getrichordie]

I don't think the ball handling is particularly impressive, his shooting is good but still more of a SF/PF than a SG/SF to my eye, and most people I trust feel the same way

I mean, yeah, his ball-handling needs work but you can say that about the vast majority of guards/wings in this class. But to say he has PF skills instead of guard/wing skills is heavily exaggerated.

Who are these people you trust?

[CoreyVillains]

Just dropped my Haliburton video on my YouTube that you can watch below! These videos might slow down a bit as I’m working on some other cool draft stuff that I’m not allowed to talk about yet, but I’m gonna try to keep them coming when I can!

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[getrichordie]

*mic drop*

NCAA sorted PIPM

courtesy of Jacob Goldstein (@JacobEGoldstein)

Key notes:

> Tillman is posting the 13th best PIPM since 2005.
> Azubuike posting 23rd best PIPM since 2005.
> Tyler Bey posting 35th best... " "

[clyde21]

the only thing that list proves is PIPM is completely useless when evaluating prospects

[getrichordie]

the only thing that list proves is PIPM is completely useless when evaluating prospects

It's just added information. No one said it was predictive.

[getrichordie]

Cole Anthony gets a little too fancy, trying to finish with his off-hand and misses an easy layup @ 2:02... Goggles come off @ 3:10 and he catches fire.

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[getrichordie]

Achiuwa's defensive ceiling is through the roof.