2022 NBA Draft Part II

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Post#1081 » by HeatIn5 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:13 pm

Hoping the Heat take LaRavia at 27

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Post#1082 » by Gert42 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:42 pm

Big J wrote:If you are running GS and they need a C do you go after a C at 28, or just go BPA and hope it hits?


Between resources and Wiseman, I think you have to go BPA in almost every scenario at #28.
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Post#1083 » by FrightCoward » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:53 pm

JRoy wrote:Jabari is not a #1 on a good nba team.

Perimeter players with weak handles are generally roleplayers unless they are also plus defensive players, which he does look like.


Two things: Jabari’s handle isn’t nearly a bad as it’s blown up to be and he’s also a legit 6’10, young 19 year old who can get his shot off on anyone due to his height advantage so he’ll just create his offense by shooting over you. Jabari is going to be special, he’s criminally underrated.
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Post#1084 » by JRoy » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:56 pm

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JRoy wrote:Jabari is not a #1 on a good nba team.

Perimeter players with weak handles are generally roleplayers unless they are also plus defensive players, which he does look like.


Two things: Jabari’s handle isn’t nearly a bad as it’s blown up to be and he’s also a legit 6’10, young 19 year old who can get his shot off on anyone due to his height advantage so he’ll just create his offense by shooting over you. Jabari is going to be special, he’s criminally underrated.


He’s going to need to be spoon fed shots with his weak handle. He doesn’t get to the basket and he doesn’t finish when he does. That is a glaring weakness.

His size, youth, shot and defense should make him an excellent player, but not a#1 option.
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Post#1085 » by Big J » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:05 pm

Let’s be honest Jabari’s handle sucks ass. He’ll still score 20 per game just by shooting over guys though. Just really limits his creation ability down the road. Can’t really just give him the ball at the top of the key and tell him to win you the game.
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Post#1086 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:07 pm

Bari handle talk is just laughable, gonna be one of the worst aging takes for this draft

as if a 19 yr old 6-10 super scorer with an elite shooting repertoire already is ALSO supposed to have guard handles as well.
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Post#1087 » by Big J » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:09 pm

clyde21 wrote:Bari handle talk is just laughable, gonna be one of the worst aging takes for this draft

as if a 19 yr old 6-10 super scorer with an elite shooting repertoire already is ALSO supposed to have guard handles as well.


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Post#1088 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:15 pm

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clyde21 wrote:Bari handle talk is just laughable, gonna be one of the worst aging takes for this draft

as if a 19 yr old 6-10 super scorer with an elite shooting repertoire already is ALSO supposed to have guard handles as well.


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Post#1089 » by JRoy » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:19 pm

clyde21 wrote:Bari handle talk is just laughable, gonna be one of the worst aging takes for this draft

as if a 19 yr old 6-10 super scorer with an elite shooting repertoire already is ALSO supposed to have guard handles as well.


You can ignore the weak handles and weak game to the basket if you like.

Players can become much better shooters. Ball handling not so much.
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Post#1090 » by SelfishPlayer » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:20 pm

Big J wrote:Let’s be honest Jabari’s handle sucks ass. He’ll still score 20 per game just by shooting over guys though. Just really limits his creation ability down the road. Can’t really just give him the ball at the top of the key and tell him to win you the game.


His handle sucks, but look at where Pascal Siakam entered the NBA and what he's capable of doing now. He may have been a late starter in picking up the game unlike Jabari, but Jabari already has a better shooting touch so if he can simply incorporate all of the moves Pascal Siakam was taught, he can easily be a 22ppg player well before Pascal reached that mark, which was his age 25 season.
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Post#1091 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:21 pm

JRoy wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Bari handle talk is just laughable, gonna be one of the worst aging takes for this draft

as if a 19 yr old 6-10 super scorer with an elite shooting repertoire already is ALSO supposed to have guard handles as well.


You can ignore the weak handles and weak game to the basket if you like.

Players can become much better shooters. Ball handling not so much.


Jayson Tatum just made 1st team all NBA and was an MVP candidate with a poor handle.

it's not gonna stop him from getting to his spots, and it's def not gonna stop him from being an elite scorer. if that's what's stopping you from taking Bari, again all I can do is laugh and say good luck.
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Post#1092 » by Big J » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:27 pm

clyde21 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
clyde21 wrote:Bari handle talk is just laughable, gonna be one of the worst aging takes for this draft

as if a 19 yr old 6-10 super scorer with an elite shooting repertoire already is ALSO supposed to have guard handles as well.


You can ignore the weak handles and weak game to the basket if you like.

Players can become much better shooters. Ball handling not so much.


Jayson Tatum just made 1st team all NBA and was an MVP candidate with a poor handle.

it's not gonna stop him from getting to his spots, and it's def not gonna stop him from being an elite scorer. if that's what's stopping you from taking Bari, again all I can do is laugh and say good luck.


Best he can be with a weak handle is a Robin on a champ. You simply can’t be “the guy” without a handle and creation ability in todays game. You need to take the emotion out of your evaluations.
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Post#1093 » by SelfishPlayer » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:30 pm

Big J wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
You can ignore the weak handles and weak game to the basket if you like.

Players can become much better shooters. Ball handling not so much.


Jayson Tatum just made 1st team all NBA and was an MVP candidate with a poor handle.

it's not gonna stop him from getting to his spots, and it's def not gonna stop him from being an elite scorer. if that's what's stopping you from taking Bari, again all I can do is laugh and say good luck.


Best he can be with a weak handle is a Robin on a champ. You simply can’t be “the guy” without a handle and creation ability in todays game.


How was Dirk's handle? Would Dirk Nowitzki be a Robin in today's game as well?
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Post#1094 » by Big J » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:32 pm

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Big J wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Jayson Tatum just made 1st team all NBA and was an MVP candidate with a poor handle.

it's not gonna stop him from getting to his spots, and it's def not gonna stop him from being an elite scorer. if that's what's stopping you from taking Bari, again all I can do is laugh and say good luck.


Best he can be with a weak handle is a Robin on a champ. You simply can’t be “the guy” without a handle and creation ability in todays game.


How was Dirk's handle? Would Dirk Nowitzki be a Robin in today's game as well?


Dirks handle was low key underrated as hell actually. He was great at passing out of doubles too.
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Post#1095 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:34 pm

Big J wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
You can ignore the weak handles and weak game to the basket if you like.

Players can become much better shooters. Ball handling not so much.


Jayson Tatum just made 1st team all NBA and was an MVP candidate with a poor handle.

it's not gonna stop him from getting to his spots, and it's def not gonna stop him from being an elite scorer. if that's what's stopping you from taking Bari, again all I can do is laugh and say good luck.


Best he can be with a weak handle is a Robin on a champ. You simply can’t be “the guy” without a handle and creation ability in todays game. You need to take the emotion out of your evaluations.


even if he's a robin on a champ, well worth the pick. unless you guys are projecting Chet/Paolo to be THE guys on championship teams? in which case, again, good luck.
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Post#1096 » by Big J » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:34 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Big J wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Jayson Tatum just made 1st team all NBA and was an MVP candidate with a poor handle.

it's not gonna stop him from getting to his spots, and it's def not gonna stop him from being an elite scorer. if that's what's stopping you from taking Bari, again all I can do is laugh and say good luck.


Best he can be with a weak handle is a Robin on a champ. You simply can’t be “the guy” without a handle and creation ability in todays game. You need to take the emotion out of your evaluations.


even if he's a robin on a champ, well worth the pick. unless you guys are projecting Chet/Paolo to be THE guys on championship teams? in which case, again, good luck.


Paolo has the tools.
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Post#1097 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:35 pm

Big J wrote:
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Big J wrote:
Best he can be with a weak handle is a Robin on a champ. You simply can’t be “the guy” without a handle and creation ability in todays game.


How was Dirk's handle? Would Dirk Nowitzki be a Robin in today's game as well?


Dirks handle was low key underrated as hell actually. He was great at passing out of doubles too.


do you have evidence that Dirk's handle at 19 was in much better shape than Jabari's?
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Post#1098 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:35 pm

Big J wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Best he can be with a weak handle is a Robin on a champ. You simply can’t be “the guy” without a handle and creation ability in todays game. You need to take the emotion out of your evaluations.


even if he's a robin on a champ, well worth the pick. unless you guys are projecting Chet/Paolo to be THE guys on championship teams? in which case, again, good luck.


Paolo has the tools.


are you just randomly throwing meaningless and vapid 1 liners out here hoping something sticks or what? what 'tools' does Paolo have that Jabari doesn't?
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Post#1099 » by SelfishPlayer » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:37 pm

Big J wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Big J wrote:
Best he can be with a weak handle is a Robin on a champ. You simply can’t be “the guy” without a handle and creation ability in todays game.


How was Dirk's handle? Would Dirk Nowitzki be a Robin in today's game as well?


Dirks handle was low key underrated as hell actually. He was great at passing out of doubles too.


Yeah, underrated by you until I mentioned him.
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Post#1100 » by JRoy » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:44 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
Big J wrote:Let’s be honest Jabari’s handle sucks ass. He’ll still score 20 per game just by shooting over guys though. Just really limits his creation ability down the road. Can’t really just give him the ball at the top of the key and tell him to win you the game.


His handle sucks, but look at where Pascal Siakam entered the NBA and what he's capable of doing now. He may have been a late starter in picking up the game unlike Jabari, but Jabari already has a better shooting touch so if he can simply incorporate all of the moves Pascal Siakam was taught, he can easily be a 22ppg player well before Pascal reached that mark, which was his age 25 season.


It seems likely he will be a pretty solid perimeter scorer and defensive player but won’t draw many fouls.
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