Zach Edey, 7-4

Big J · Post #1101 » by **Big J** » Thu May 23, 2024 3:12 am

greg4012 wrote:Are people watching the playoff games presently and really projecting that Edey can have a positive role in them?

Imagine him being on the other team against Kyrie & Luka lol.

Big nick · Post #1102 » by **Big nick** » Thu May 23, 2024 4:06 am

greg4012 wrote:Are people watching the playoff games presently and really projecting that Edey can have a positive role in them?

Yes I believe he can, doesn't rudy. Rudy is pretty compared to edey don't you think.

Big J · Post #1103 » by **Big J** » Thu May 23, 2024 10:16 am

Big nick wrote:
greg4012 wrote:Are people watching the playoff games presently and really projecting that Edey can have a positive role in them?

Yes I believe he can, doesn't rudy. Rudy is pretty compared to edey don't you think.

Rudy is a multiple time DPOY.

greg4012 · Post #1104 » by **greg4012** » Thu May 23, 2024 12:27 pm

Big nick wrote:
greg4012 wrote:Are people watching the playoff games presently and really projecting that Edey can have a positive role in them?

Yes I believe he can, doesn't rudy. Rudy is pretty compared to edey don't you think.

I don't think they're in the same stratosphere as defenders

JMAC3 · Post #1105 » by **JMAC3** » Thu May 23, 2024 2:03 pm

I could see a Western Conference semi-contender drafting him in the teens, just for the fact he might be able to prevent Wemby from destroying the rim for 10-15 mins a game. Wemby will still be able to shoot and drive by Edey, but maybe he can prevent the easy lobs and quick finishes that Wemby gets...

Probably a bit high if that is his main use, but I do think teams out west could just value his size against Jokic, Rudy, Wemby.. again those guys are awesome and will still be very good against him, but maybe he can take away some of really easy stuff.

Same note I could see a WC team taking Kael Ware as a decent matchup for Wemby.

JMAC3 · Post #1106 » by **JMAC3** » Thu May 23, 2024 2:04 pm

All the talk about Edey being a superstar, 30 pts, post offense is nonsense though... no team is drafting him with the intention of him being a double digit scorer.

GoBobs · Post #1107 » by **GoBobs** » Thu May 23, 2024 2:24 pm

JMAC3 wrote:All the talk about Edey being a superstar, 30 pts, post offense is nonsense though... no team is drafting him with the intention of him being a double digit scorer.

You don't think he can be a double digit scorer? Lol, he wakes up with 10 pts and 10 reb.

A good comp for how a team could utlize his scoring is actually Bobby Portis for the Bucks. They bring him in off the bench and he plays a very old school back to the basket post big game.

A team wouldn't have to use him like that for him to score double digits either. He could just be a roll man in the pick and roll and he is going to be in double digits, between doing that and put backs off offensive rebounds.

Big J · Post #1108 » by **Big J** » Thu May 23, 2024 5:12 pm

Boban is a good comp for him. Sure, he could hypothetically score 40 per game if you ran the offense through him. Unfortunately that is just not an efficient way to play in today’s game especially with his defensive limitations.

greg4012 · Post #1109 » by **greg4012** » Thu May 23, 2024 6:22 pm

GoBobs wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:All the talk about Edey being a superstar, 30 pts, post offense is nonsense though... no team is drafting him with the intention of him being a double digit scorer.

You don't think he can be a double digit scorer? Lol, he wakes up with 10 pts and 10 reb.

A good comp for how a team could utlize his scoring is actually Bobby Portis for the Bucks. They bring him in off the bench and he plays a very old school back to the basket post big game.

A team wouldn't have to use him like that for him to score double digits either. He could just be a roll man in the pick and roll and he is going to be in double digits, between doing that and put backs off offensive rebounds.

27% of Bobby Portis' FGA this past season were 3PA (hit them at 40% clip)--57% of his FGA were 10+ feet from the basket.

Here's his shot chart: https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/portis-shot-chart

JMAC3 · Post #1110 » by **JMAC3** » Thu May 23, 2024 6:32 pm

GoBobs wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:All the talk about Edey being a superstar, 30 pts, post offense is nonsense though... no team is drafting him with the intention of him being a double digit scorer.

You don't think he can be a double digit scorer? Lol, he wakes up with 10 pts and 10 reb.

A good comp for how a team could utlize his scoring is actually Bobby Portis for the Bucks. They bring him in off the bench and he plays a very old school back to the basket post big game.

A team wouldn't have to use him like that for him to score double digits either. He could just be a roll man in the pick and roll and he is going to be in double digits, between doing that and put backs off offensive rebounds.

Dereck Lively who almost anyone you talk to has been fantastic in the playoffs is averaging 7 ppg and 8 rpg. He rolls down the lane, gets offensive rebounds... its not like you are going to score 20+ ppg in the NBA just because you are big.

Here is a list of centers that average 15 ppg or more.
Jokic, Embiid, Davis, JJJ, Wemby, Sengun, KP, Sabonis, Bam, Vucevic, Turner, Ayton, Chet, Jarrett Allen.

All those guys are significantly more skilled than Edey... the only one that Edey is even close to is Jarrett Allen and he is barely meeting the threshold in a career year. His career average is 12.7 ppg.

I think deep down you think Edey is legit going to be a 25/15 guy the way you speak about him, and there is just no a chance that is the case.

FrodoBaggins · Post #1111 » by **FrodoBaggins** » Thu May 23, 2024 7:05 pm

Boban isn't a good physical comparison because he's dramatically slower/less mobile than Edey. Zach's more like a 7'4", 300-pound Ivica Zubac. Look at how good Zach moved at the combine. He moved great last year and he was noticeably more agile this year. Quicker in his change of directions and change of pace. More fluid movement. Quicker off his feet when jumping.

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Cammo101 · Post #1112 » by **Cammo101** » Thu May 23, 2024 7:42 pm

I think Edey can play a role on a good team. His upside will always be capped by his style of play, but I think he is good enough offensively to be a backup center on a very good team. Which in this draft, makes you a top 20 prospect in my eyes.

Rustyman · Post #1113 » by **Rustyman** » Fri May 24, 2024 12:44 am

JMAC3 wrote:I could see a Western Conference semi-contender drafting him in the teens, just for the fact he might be able to prevent Wemby from destroying the rim for 10-15 mins a game. Wemby will still be able to shoot and drive by Edey, but maybe he can prevent the easy lobs and quick finishes that Wemby gets...

Probably a bit high if that is his main use, but I do think teams out west could just value his size against Jokic, Rudy, Wemby.. again those guys are awesome and will still be very good against him, but maybe he can take away some of really easy stuff.

Same note I could see a WC team taking Kael Ware as a decent matchup for Wemby.

This is a key point in favor of Edey. The West has a bunch of big really good players. Edey can be a matchup for some of them. I think too many people also underrate Edey's ability to score in the post. At some point, the game is going to start valuing that skill more, especially if the ability for perimeter players to play defense as seen in the playoffs extends to the regular season.

Rustyman · Post #1114 » by **Rustyman** » Fri May 24, 2024 12:59 am

JMAC3 wrote:Same note I could see a WC team taking Kael Ware as a decent matchup for Wemby.

Ware could not compete with players like Gobert and Joker. Just look at how Chet did against anyone with bulk. Even against Wemby, I doubt Ware has the agility or bulk to compete.

lastb1ckman · Post #1115 » by **lastb1ckman** » Fri May 24, 2024 3:16 am

Rustyman wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Same note I could see a WC team taking Kael Ware as a decent matchup for Wemby.

Ware could not compete with players like Gobert and Joker. Just look at how Chet did against anyone with bulk. Even against Wemby, I doubt Ware has the agility or bulk to compete.

Yeah a lot of people are high on Ware's physical tools, but strength is definitely something he doesn't have atm. I've seen him have difficulty backing down college guards in mismatches.

FarBeyondDriven · Post #1116 » by **FarBeyondDriven** » Fri May 24, 2024 3:26 am

I've never been a huge fan of guys like Poeltl or Nurkic. Whatever either of these guys has done I think Edey is capable of. Problem is people don't think much of guys like this in the league. Even if Edey is better than them, by how much? And how valuable is a slightly better Nurkic? Obviously there's some value there and worth drafting but that's why he should be taken in the late 1st or early 2nd.

Big nick · Post #1117 » by **Big nick** » Fri May 24, 2024 3:32 am

I want okc to draft edey mainly to play as a vw stopper and rebound and set hard screens. The west is full of good bigs and I think edey will shine playing those.

FrodoBaggins · Post #1118 » by **FrodoBaggins** » Fri May 24, 2024 1:09 pm

Check this out:

2004 Dwight Howard lane agility test: 11.21 seconds (240 pounds)
2024 Zach Edey lane agility test: 11.19 seconds (299 pounds)

JMAC3 · Post #1119 » by **JMAC3** » Fri May 24, 2024 1:30 pm

FrodoBaggins wrote:Check this out:

2004 Dwight Howard lane agility test: 11.21 seconds (240 pounds)
2024 Zach Edey lane agility test: 11.19 seconds (299 pounds)

Blake Griffin 6-9 with 35.5 inch Max Vert..
Buzelis 6-10 with 38 inch Max Vert....

Better call up Lob City and let them know they have a new mayor.

or maybe combine measurements aren't a perfect 1:1

JMAC3 · Post #1120 » by **JMAC3** » Fri May 24, 2024 1:32 pm

Rustyman wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Same note I could see a WC team taking Kael Ware as a decent matchup for Wemby.

Ware could not compete with players like Gobert and Joker. Just look at how Chet did against anyone with bulk. Even against Wemby, I doubt Ware has the agility or bulk to compete.

Nobody is stopping Joker.. nobody is stopping Wemby..

Hard to name 5+ guys right now that matchup better than Ware to Wemby.