Kyle Anderson

SelfishPlayer · Post #121 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 4:32 pm

He's a less athletic Lamar Odom. They are from the same basketball pipeline. Kyle Anderson will have to adjust his game. I don't ever see a team making him their "point" player. He just isn't athletic enough or score well enough to make it worthwhile. I see his future being a stretch 4. If he becomes a really good 3 point shooter that can guard low post players then his game will make far more sense. He needs to become good at all of the non glorious parts of the game like setting screens. His drawback besides being slow is that he doesn't do any of the dirty work. He just wants to pass and pound the ball into the floor. That's making him into the sort of player that forces teams to build around him. He's not good enough to be built around. He needs to do more of the "little" things well to become a glue player like Boris Diaw.

atlantabbq99 · Post #122 » by **atlantabbq99** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 5:59 pm

I see him more like Toni Kukoc. Kukoc also had problems with athleticism and defense, but still very effective in the right system.

E-Balla · Post #123 » by **E-Balla** » Sun Jun 8, 2014 12:22 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:He's a less athletic Lamar Odom. They are from the same basketball pipeline. Kyle Anderson will have to adjust his game. I don't ever see a team making him their "point" player. He just isn't athletic enough or score well enough to make it worthwhile. I see his future being a stretch 4. If he becomes a really good 3 point shooter that can guard low post players then his game will make far more sense. He needs to become good at all of the non glorious parts of the game like setting screens. His drawback besides being slow is that he doesn't do any of the dirty work. He just wants to pass and pound the ball into the floor. That's making him into the sort of player that forces teams to build around him. He's not good enough to be built around. He needs to do more of the "little" things well to become a glue player like Boris Diaw.

This is a perfect assessment of him. I do think he'll adjust to the league though and after shoring up his jumpshot (which isn't bad but he has no range) I see him being a 15/9/5 guy. If a team lets him run the second unit from day one I think he'll be fine.

siar617 · Post #124 » by **siar617** » Mon Jun 9, 2014 1:08 pm

GC Pantalones wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:He's a less athletic Lamar Odom. They are from the same basketball pipeline. Kyle Anderson will have to adjust his game. I don't ever see a team making him their "point" player. He just isn't athletic enough or score well enough to make it worthwhile. I see his future being a stretch 4. If he becomes a really good 3 point shooter that can guard low post players then his game will make far more sense. He needs to become good at all of the non glorious parts of the game like setting screens. His drawback besides being slow is that he doesn't do any of the dirty work. He just wants to pass and pound the ball into the floor. That's making him into the sort of player that forces teams to build around him. He's not good enough to be built around. He needs to do more of the "little" things well to become a glue player like Boris Diaw.

This is a perfect assessment of him. I do think he'll adjust to the league though and after shoring up his jumpshot (which isn't bad but he has no range) I see him being a 15/9/5 guy. If a team lets him run the second unit from day one I think he'll be fine.

Diaw all the way just hope he is a better version.

jpengland · Post #125 » by **jpengland** » Mon Jun 9, 2014 1:17 pm

If I am picking at 20+ he is a player I would gamble on.

His ceiling is very high if he can put it together. Adds three point range and starts setting screens. He will be an above average rebounder straight off the bat.

If he ends up on the Spurs, wow.

siar617 · Post #126 » by **siar617** » Mon Jun 9, 2014 1:22 pm

zjl3 wrote:Kyle can be a huge difference maker if he is in the right situation. At the very least, he can grab the rebound and take it coast to coast and lay it in or dish it to a teammate for an assist. As long as he gets stronger, he should have no problem guarding power forwards.

Playing in the triangle off the bench with Melo ahead of him gives him the best chance to succeed.

EvanZ · Post #127 » by **EvanZ** » Mon Jun 9, 2014 8:32 pm

jpengland wrote:If I am picking at 20+ he is a player I would gamble on.

His ceiling is very high if he can put it together. Adds three point range and starts setting screens. He will be an above average rebounder straight off the bat.

If he ends up on the Spurs, wow.

I think the Spurs end up with Anderson or Jordan Adams and somehow 3 years from now every other team is going, what??? Dammit.

Dukenukem23 · Post #128 » by **Dukenukem23** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:54 am

EvanZ wrote:
jpengland wrote:If I am picking at 20+ he is a player I would gamble on.

His ceiling is very high if he can put it together. Adds three point range and starts setting screens. He will be an above average rebounder straight off the bat.

If he ends up on the Spurs, wow.

I think the Spurs end up with Anderson or Jordan Adams and somehow 3 years from now every other team is going, what??? Dammit.

Anderson has no chance at dropping out of the first round so spurs will have trade up to have a chance to draft him.

EvanZ · Post #129 » by **EvanZ** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:35 pm

Dukenukem23 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
jpengland wrote:If I am picking at 20+ he is a player I would gamble on.

His ceiling is very high if he can put it together. Adds three point range and starts setting screens. He will be an above average rebounder straight off the bat.

If he ends up on the Spurs, wow.

I think the Spurs end up with Anderson or Jordan Adams and somehow 3 years from now every other team is going, what??? Dammit.

Anderson has no chance at dropping out of the first round so spurs will have trade up to have a chance to draft him.

You realize the Spurs have the 30th pick right? Here's Ford projecting Anderson at #30.

Anderson's stock remains the toughest to determine. There are teams all over the first-round giving him a look, but no one that seems to have him as one of their top option. If he gets this low, an opportunistic GM like RC Buford could jump. He has the chance to be their next Boris Diaw.

Watch it happen.

doordoor123 · Post #130 » by **doordoor123** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:40 pm

I don't think the Spurs want Anderson without Duncan and Pop if they retire. Actually, Phil Jackson might like him. And the Knicks are looking for picks.

EvanZ · Post #131 » by **EvanZ** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:41 pm

doordoor123 wrote:I don't think the Spurs want Anderson without Duncan and Pop if they retire.

Right...because they want to stop winning when those two retire. Obviously!

whocurrz · Post #132 » by **whocurrz** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:41 pm

If Anderson has a chance to fall into late teens I hope Warriors shop Barnes to try to get him. Not concerned about his athleticism. Besides Griffin most PFs are perimeter oriented and won't be taking it to the rack a lot or forcing Anderson to contest dunks. On offense if Andre Miller can get by PGs with a good handle and defenders having to sag because of his passing, Anderson should be able to do so against PFs. Should be a very useful player throughout his career, especially if he can keep improving his shot

ColdBlooded · Post #133 » by **ColdBlooded** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:04 pm

doordoor123 wrote:I don't think the Spurs want Anderson without Duncan and Pop if they retire. Actually, Phil Jackson might like him. And the Knicks are looking for picks.

Lol Wtf.

Anderson can still have a chance thrive over there. they'll probably replace Pop with one of his old assistants to keep the same system in place.

not to mention collecting young assets is always a good thing, especially if Pop and Duncan retire.

Cavs0623 · Post #134 » by **Cavs0623** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:10 pm

I think what he is trying to say that Duncan and Pop set that tone of helping players maximizing their potential
best I could come up with

E-Balla · Post #135 » by **E-Balla** » Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:28 pm

EvanZ wrote:
jpengland wrote:If I am picking at 20+ he is a player I would gamble on.

His ceiling is very high if he can put it together. Adds three point range and starts setting screens. He will be an above average rebounder straight off the bat.

If he ends up on the Spurs, wow.

I think the Spurs end up with Anderson or Jordan Adams and somehow 3 years from now every other team is going, what??? Dammit.

If that happens everyone in the lottery is beyond dumb. Adams is a top 10 guy and Anderson is a top 14 guy easily.

ManualRam · Post #136 » by **ManualRam** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:53 am

GC Pantalones wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:He's a less athletic Lamar Odom. They are from the same basketball pipeline. Kyle Anderson will have to adjust his game. I don't ever see a team making him their "point" player. He just isn't athletic enough or score well enough to make it worthwhile. I see his future being a stretch 4. If he becomes a really good 3 point shooter that can guard low post players then his game will make far more sense. He needs to become good at all of the non glorious parts of the game like setting screens. His drawback besides being slow is that he doesn't do any of the dirty work. He just wants to pass and pound the ball into the floor. That's making him into the sort of player that forces teams to build around him. He's not good enough to be built around. He needs to do more of the "little" things well to become a glue player like Boris Diaw.

This is a perfect assessment of him. I do think he'll adjust to the league though and after shoring up his jumpshot (which isn't bad but he has no range) I see him being a 15/9/5 guy. If a team lets him run the second unit from day one I think he'll be fine.

i don't think he should run any unit. i know he wants to and he considers himself a PG. i just don't think his style of running an offense would fly in the NBA with a 24 second shot clock. the ball tends to stick in his hands and he wants to have his hand in everything. i don't think he should be the one bringing the ball up and initiating the offense from the perimeter. that's a waste of precious seconds. to me, how diaw is used should be the model for kyle. put him in different spots on the floor. high post, mid post, coming off of curls, side pnr, wing splits, etc. i just don't think he should be starting the majority of his possessions 3 pt line extended. he's not a threat to get into the paint from there, whereas i think he would be if he had to cover shorter distances and was more of an interior hub.

miltk · Post #137 » by **miltk** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:46 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:His drawback besides being slow is that he doesn't do any of the dirty work. .

8.6rpg as a frosh,,,8.8rpg as a soph.
people were criticizing his lack of perimeter shooting, he came in the following year hitting his 3s. if there's one thing kyle is, he's a player who will do anything to contribute to a win and not whine about it. i hope sa DOES draft him. if they do they'll know how to use him.

Orlwillbeback · Post #138 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:15 am

this guy is about a 2 on a scale of 1-10 in terms of athleticism. And he doesnt have bulk to make up for it like diaw. He will need to be an extremely good shooter to stay in the league imo.

ManualRam · Post #139 » by **ManualRam** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:30 am

Orlwillbeback wrote:this guy is about a 2 on a scale of 1-10 in terms of athleticism. And he doesnt have bulk to make up for it like diaw. He will need to be an extremely good shooter to stay in the league imo.

where does this idea that anderson is too thin or doesn't have the frame to put on bulk come from?
he's already 230-235 lbs and his body still looks soft. he's got the frame to work with.

Orlwillbeback · Post #140 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:33 am

ManualRam wrote:
Orlwillbeback wrote:this guy is about a 2 on a scale of 1-10 in terms of athleticism. And he doesnt have bulk to make up for it like diaw. He will need to be an extremely good shooter to stay in the league imo.

where does this idea that anderson is too thin or doesn't have the frame to put on bulk come from?
he's already 230-235 lbs and his body still looks soft. he's got the frame to work with.

I'am sorry but that is not a very impressive physique.