Frank Kaminsky

[brannigan73]

Any clowns still think Spencer Hawes is better then Frank Kaminsky? Hawes has never shot as well as Kaminsky at any level and Kaminsky has rebounded much better this season.

[god4gives]

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time to put money in the bank
and start rooting for frank the tank
the 2nd coming of nowitzki
dont sleep on that boy
kaminsky


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[Kevin Willis]

Kaminsky in that package reminds me of LaMarcus. If he can be just a poor man's LaMarcus he will be a really good pro.

[tmorgan]

Frank sure does love him some spin moves. How is that going to translate?

[teerfour+40LG]

Frank sure does love him some spin moves. How is that going to translate?

He won't be able to whore it as much in the NBA. He will probably turn it over a lot while learning when it can/can't be used. If he finally learns, he should be able to bust it out once every few games when the team has been denied its preferred options on offense.

[Marcus]

I'm pretty sure Frank more than likely won't be put into too many situation where he'll have/get to use that move in general.

[bajrangbali]

Kaminsky looks like he will be either a total bust or a borderline all-star....nothing in between

[Johnlac1]

It's not just one off. move that makes Frank potentially very valuable. Sure, he won't be able to pull off the spin move in the pros as well as he does in college.
But how many pro centers have Kaminsky's off. repertoire. Score inside, score outside, be able to put the ball on the floor, and also see the floor and pass well? Again, maybe Olynyk. Who else? Olynyk had carved out a nice niche in Boston with similar athletic "limitations" like Frank.

I don't anybody expects Frank to be a superstar. But he can certainly be a very valuable player with his all-around game.
Grant Hill said he thinks Frank has the potential to improve. I didn't quite catch what he said Frank would have to improve on (get stronger?), but I'll take him at his word.

[King Ken]

Kaminsky in that package reminds me of LaMarcus. If he can be just a poor man's LaMarcus he will be a really good pro.

Lacks LMA athletic ability and tools to play PF. He's a NBA tweener.

[165bows]

It's not just one off. move that makes Frank potentially very valuable. Sure, he won't be able to pull off the spin move in the pros as well as he does in college.
But how many pro centers have Kaminsky's off. repertoire. Score inside, score outside, be able to put the ball on the floor, and also see the floor and pass well? Again, maybe Olynyk. Who else? Olynyk had carved out a nice niche in Boston with similar athletic "limitations" like Frank.

I don't anybody expects Frank to be a superstar. But he can certainly be a very valuable player with his all-around game.
Grant Hill said he thinks Frank has the potential to improve. I didn't quite catch what he said Frank would have to improve on (get stronger?), but I'll take him at his word.

Olynyk has been able to maintain some use of the spin move in the NBA. I think the fact that a big can shoot and also attack the close-out with the dribble makes it valuable by itself in that it forces everyone to rotate beyond just closing on the shooter. The spin is just an option once the rotation comes. A somewhat risky one, but options are helpful in general.

[No-Man]

Kaminsky is faster without the ball and overall more athletic than Olynyk, he is also longer and a better, much faster, shooter.

[Johnlac1]

Kaminsky is faster without the ball and overall more athletic than Olynyk, he is also longer and a better, much faster, shooter.

I tend to agree.

[tmorgan]

Oh I do think that Kaminsky has a good shot at a long pro career... it's just that he does some things (particularly the spin, sometimes outside the paint) that aren't going to work very well. He'll need to adjust, just like almost everyone else.

He has talent. If a team drafts him outside the lottery, they're very likely to get their money's worth. If he goes too soon with correspondingly high expectations (think Trey Burke), it'll be tougher for him to succeed.

I think he'll be better served on a quality team, coming off the bench initially, as he works on getting his game to a pro speed. If a quality playoff team gets their hands on him and makes him the first big off the bench, he could contribute a solid 15-20 minutes a game next year. If he goes lottery and/or is thrust into a starting role, it could be pretty ugly, particularly defensively.

[165bows]

Kaminsky is faster without the ball and overall more athletic than Olynyk, he is also longer and a better, much faster, shooter.

I tend to agree.

Yeah I don't disagree with it. It will be interesting to see Frank's combine measurements to see where he stacks up.

[Johnlac1]

Oh I do think that Kaminsky has a good shot at a long pro career... it's just that he does some things (particularly the spin, sometimes outside the paint) that aren't going to work very well. He'll need to adjust, just like almost everyone else.

He has talent. If a team drafts him outside the lottery, they're very likely to get their money's worth. If he goes too soon with correspondingly high expectations (think Trey Burke), it'll be tougher for him to succeed.

I think he'll be better served on a quality team, coming off the bench initially, as he works on getting his game to a pro speed. If a quality playoff team gets their hands on him and makes him the first big off the bench, he could contribute a solid 15-20 minutes a game next year. If he goes lottery and/or is thrust into a starting role, it could be pretty ugly, particularly defensively.

Again, look at the success of Olynyk. Olynyk was another "big" man who a number of experts felt wasn't a real big man. I can't see where Olynyk is over Kaminsky in any area.
I think Frank will probably be able to play center better than Olynyk. I don't watch a lot of Celtic games, so I don't know if they play Olynyk at center. But he 's still carved himself a niche thanks to his skills and ability to go outside. Frank can do all those things.
And I'll mention Zaza Pachulia again. He's not the athlete of either Olynyk or Kaminsky yet he's starting on an NBA team. Pachulia's pretty strong and smart, but that's about it. Kaminsky's easily a better athlete and more skilled.

[King Ken]

Oh I do think that Kaminsky has a good shot at a long pro career... it's just that he does some things (particularly the spin, sometimes outside the paint) that aren't going to work very well. He'll need to adjust, just like almost everyone else.

He has talent. If a team drafts him outside the lottery, they're very likely to get their money's worth. If he goes too soon with correspondingly high expectations (think Trey Burke), it'll be tougher for him to succeed.

I think he'll be better served on a quality team, coming off the bench initially, as he works on getting his game to a pro speed. If a quality playoff team gets their hands on him and makes him the first big off the bench, he could contribute a solid 15-20 minutes a game next year. If he goes lottery and/or is thrust into a starting role, it could be pretty ugly, particularly defensively.

Again, look at the success of Olynyk. Olynyk was another "big" man who a number of experts felt wasn't a real big man. I can't see where Olynyk is over Kaminsky in any area.
I think Frank will probably be able to play center better than Olynyk. I don't watch a lot of Celtic games, so I don't know if they play Olynyk at center. But he 's still carved himself a niche thanks to his skills and ability to go outside. Frank can do all those things.
And I'll mention Zaza Pachulia again. He's not the athlete of either Olynyk or Kaminsky yet he's starting on an NBA team. Pachulia's pretty strong and smart, but that's about it. Kaminsky's easily a better athlete and more skilled.

Kelly was much more skilled to me. I always seen Kelly as a poor man's Dirk. I see the center skill-set but I don't see what I want from Kaminsky. I see him as a rich man's Mike Muscala. I honestly think he needs to add bulk or he is going to be without a position. Kelly has a position to me (PF), he just still needs more bulk.

[god4gives]

Kaminsky is faster without the ball and overall more athletic than Olynyk, he is also longer and a better, much faster, shooter.

Oh I do think that Kaminsky has a good shot at a long pro career... it's just that he does some things (particularly the spin, sometimes outside the paint) that aren't going to work very well. He'll need to adjust, just like almost everyone else.

He has talent. If a team drafts him outside the lottery, they're very likely to get their money's worth. If he goes too soon with correspondingly high expectations (think Trey Burke), it'll be tougher for him to succeed.

I think he'll be better served on a quality team, coming off the bench initially, as he works on getting his game to a pro speed. If a quality playoff team gets their hands on him and makes him the first big off the bench, he could contribute a solid 15-20 minutes a game next year. If he goes lottery and/or is thrust into a starting role, it could be pretty ugly, particularly defensively.

Again, look at the success of Olynyk. Olynyk was another "big" man who a number of experts felt wasn't a real big man. I can't see where Olynyk is over Kaminsky in any area.
I think Frank will probably be able to play center better than Olynyk. I don't watch a lot of Celtic games, so I don't know if they play Olynyk at center. But he 's still carved himself a niche thanks to his skills and ability to go outside. Frank can do all those things.
And I'll mention Zaza Pachulia again. He's not the athlete of either Olynyk or Kaminsky yet he's starting on an NBA team. Pachulia's pretty strong and smart, but that's about it. Kaminsky's easily a better athlete and more skilled.

cosign. Kaminsky is a better version of Olynyk with a little bit of pau gasol and nowitzki to his game

[tmorgan]

Fair enough, but notice that Olynyk is currently looking like a league-average player, playing primarily as a reserve, at a little over 20 minutes a game. He's also in his second year at this point, putting up 10 and 5 in 23 minutes. I think most people think Frank can do more than that, so he'll need to be better than Olynyk to do it.

[nicnac215]

Oh I do think that Kaminsky has a good shot at a long pro career... it's just that he does some things (particularly the spin, sometimes outside the paint) that aren't going to work very well. He'll need to adjust, just like almost everyone else.

He has talent. If a team drafts him outside the lottery, they're very likely to get their money's worth. If he goes too soon with correspondingly high expectations (think Trey Burke), it'll be tougher for him to succeed.

I think he'll be better served on a quality team, coming off the bench initially, as he works on getting his game to a pro speed. If a quality playoff team gets their hands on him and makes him the first big off the bench, he could contribute a solid 15-20 minutes a game next year. If he goes lottery and/or is thrust into a starting role, it could be pretty ugly, particularly defensively.

I see Frank as a great fit in Utah. He can practice against Gobert and Favors, 2 big defensive minded players who can help him adjust to NBA length and athleticism all the while Frank packs that offensive scoring punch both Gobert and Favors are missing.

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