Justise Winslow

Cammo101 · Post #121 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Apr 7, 2015 6:41 pm

nickforthreee wrote:I take him over johnson & Oubre with no hesitation

Yeah, I think that ship has pretty much sailed.

Ettorefm · Post #122 » by **Ettorefm** » Tue Apr 7, 2015 6:45 pm

MKG 2.0, without the (totally) broken jumper

Cammo101 · Post #123 » by **Cammo101** » Tue Apr 7, 2015 6:54 pm

Ettorefm wrote:MKG 2.0, without the (totally) broken jumper

I think Winslow has significantly better upside than MKG because he is a better athlete and much more skilled offensively. Nut, he's more raw and up and down than MKG was as a freshman, so you assume some more risk with Winslow than you did with MKG.

nickforthreee · Post #124 » by **nickforthreee** » Tue Apr 7, 2015 6:58 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:I take him over johnson & Oubre with no hesitation

Yeah, I think that ship has pretty much sailed.

it would still be a tough decision for me between him & Hezonja though. I think Justise has a higher floor but Mario might have a higher ceiling. Think they both will be really good.

youngthegiant · Post #125 » by **youngthegiant** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 1:58 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uoQpFONPus[/youtube]

Upperclass · Post #126 » by **Upperclass** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 2:48 am

Next Gerald Wallace. Doubt he goes lower than 5th

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #127 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 5:49 pm

I wonder if there's more wiggle in Winslow's offensive game, as in, will he be able to shoot off the dribble, creating shots for himself on the perimeter, that type of thing. Take Kawhi, for example. He's now able to post up, shoot turnaround Js over defenders, and even shoot pull-ups off the dribble. I wonder if Winslow can develop that sort of game. If he does, his ceiling is pretty high imo.

Neon Keon · Post #128 » by **Neon Keon** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 5:54 pm

j-ragg wrote:Hoping the Magic can nab him at 5, depending on his predraft measurements.

Elfird/Oladipo/Winslow/Gordon/Vucevic

Good defensive team even with our center not playing a lick of it. But Winslow's stock seems to be climbing quite a bit.

Man O Man are you guys really starting to stack some nice players.

Post #129 » by **Marcus** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 6:48 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:I wonder if there's more wiggle in Winslow's offensive game, as in, will he be able to shoot off the dribble, creating shots for himself on the perimeter, that type of thing.

i didn't think so early in the season because i believe he didn't have any threes not come off of assist before the Utah game. Later in the season though he showed a little pension for it. Knew he could handle in transition, attack close outs, and some PnR. He showed a little one on one change direction though, good eurostep, and he uses that Harden driving arm swing to draw fouls which should translate. So there might be tons more he kept hidden due to role on the team. Which to me speaks even higher of the kid. not just because his arsenal is wider than originally thought, but because he had/has no problem with doing what asked first and what he can second. That's big time to a coach and is also something else Kawhi Leonard esque as has been mentioned in this thread regarding Jus.

j-ragg · Post #130 » by **j-ragg** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 9:39 pm

Neon Keon wrote:
j-ragg wrote:Hoping the Magic can nab him at 5, depending on his predraft measurements.

Elfird/Oladipo/Winslow/Gordon/Vucevic

Good defensive team even with our center not playing a lick of it. But Winslow's stock seems to be climbing quite a bit.

Man O Man are you guys really starting to stack some nice players.

Makes the draft more fun but I really hope this is the last damn lotto year lol the losing makes it tough to watch.

Post #131 » by **Marcus** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 9:46 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:I take him over johnson & Oubre with no hesitation

Yeah, I think that ship has pretty much sailed.

yeahhhh thought Oubre might show enough to perhaps sneak in there and be the first wing. Didn't turn out that way at all. lol.

EMG518 · Post #132 » by **EMG518** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 10:58 pm

I am going to be the lone man on an island, not getting off yet either. Have him 9th, behind Hezonja and Johnson still.

Post #133 » by **Marcus** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 10:59 pm

EMG518 wrote:I am going to be the lone man on an island, not getting off yet either. Have him 9th, behind Hezonja and Johnson still.

why is that?

EMG518 · Post #134 » by **EMG518** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 11:05 pm

Marcus wrote:
EMG518 wrote:I am going to be the lone man on an island, not getting off yet either. Have him 9th, behind Hezonja and Johnson still.

why is that?

I think he is pretty close to a finished product. I think offensively he is limited more than both Johnson and Hezonja. Offensively he looks like a role player at best to me. He is not going to be able to attack as well at the next level against grown men, they wont want him to as well with his poot ft shooting. I dont think he will be a good shooter from behind the arc, I dont think he has that kind of range and he would only be good for set shots where he is fed the ball. Defensively I know he is going to be good. That is why I still have him 9th.

Post #135 » by **Marcus** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 11:07 pm

EMG518 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
EMG518 wrote:I am going to be the lone man on an island, not getting off yet either. Have him 9th, behind Hezonja and Johnson still.

why is that?

I think he is pretty close to a finished product. I think offensively he is limited more than both Johnson and Hezonja. Offensively he looks like a role player at best to me. He is not going to be able to attack as well at the next level against grown men, they wont want him to as well with his poot ft shooting. I dont think he will be a good shooter from behind the arc, I dont think he has that kind of range and he would only be good for set shots where he is fed the ball. Defensively I know he is going to be good. That is why I still have him 9th.

fair enough. we'll see how it all shapes up in a few years.

No-Man · Post #136 » by **No-Man** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 11:11 pm

EMG518 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
EMG518 wrote:I am going to be the lone man on an island, not getting off yet either. Have him 9th, behind Hezonja and Johnson still.

why is that?

I think he is pretty close to a finished product. I think offensively he is limited more than both Johnson and Hezonja. Offensively he looks like a role player at best to me. He is not going to be able to attack as well at the next level against grown men, they wont want him to as well with his poot ft shooting. I dont think he will be a good shooter from behind the arc, I dont think he has that kind of range and he would only be good for set shots where he is fed the ball. Defensively I know he is going to be good. That is why I still have him 9th.

I see the point when you compare his offensive ceiling to Hezonja's, but Johnson? really?

Im Your Father · Post #137 » by **Im Your Father** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 11:14 pm

For what it's worth, his freethrow shooting really improved towards the end of season. I also have difficulty believing that a 19 year old can't improve his range or his handles, when he has already shown some raw ability to shoot from deep and to take his man off the dribble.

EMG518 · Post #138 » by **EMG518** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 11:18 pm

Fischella wrote:
EMG518 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
why is that?

I think he is pretty close to a finished product. I think offensively he is limited more than both Johnson and Hezonja. Offensively he looks like a role player at best to me. He is not going to be able to attack as well at the next level against grown men, they wont want him to as well with his poot ft shooting. I dont think he will be a good shooter from behind the arc, I dont think he has that kind of range and he would only be good for set shots where he is fed the ball. Defensively I know he is going to be good. That is why I still have him 9th.

I see the point when you compare his offensive ceiling to Hezonja's, but Johnson? really?

Yea, I think Johnson will be the better shooter behind the arc, at the line, will be able to shoot in other situations other than just being fed the ball for a set shot. I think he has more potential to handle the ball, Im not sure what the word I am looking for is but I am going to say he has looser actions when moving, Winslow is more stiff to me and they are close enough defensively that I want the player that can be put in more situations on offense.

No-Man · Post #139 » by **No-Man** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 11:27 pm

Winslow is a better role player offensively, better shooter, way better finisher, better off theball and more importantly, smarter, works hard to get opportunistic points, Stanley is not going to be a 1st option with the ball in his hands, and quite frankly, due to athleticism, better handling, better p&r play, and better shooting, Stan might have fooled some people but his form and arc are bad, that shot is not going to get it done, Winslow has the higher ceiling both defensively and offensively.
Johnson has no case whatsoever, at all.

EMG518 · Post #140 » by **EMG518** » Thu Apr 9, 2015 11:37 pm

Fischella wrote:Winslow is a better role player offensively, better shooter, way better finisher, better off theball and more importantly, smarter, works hard to get opportunistic points, Stanley is not going to be a 1st option with the ball in his hands, and quite frankly, due to athleticism, better handling, better p&r play, and better shooting, Stan might have fooled some people but his form and arc are bad, that shot is not going to get it done, Winslow has the higher ceiling both defensively and offensively.
Johnson has no case whatsoever, at all.

Lol, alright.