Brandon Ingram

Post #121 » by **Marcus** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:11 pm

EricAnderson wrote:The Tayshaun Prince comparisons are dumb as hell..

think those died a long time ago.

Post #122 » by **Marcus** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:13 pm

The Skyhook wrote:Ingram continues to display that he is not only a scorer but a very capable playmaker as well.

yeah that's what was most surprising for me from jump street. All I knew about the kid coming in was that he could put the ball in the cup. Handle could be tighter but its better than I expected and his vision and pace isn't too bad either. He's shown more patience at times than Thornton who I had high hopes for coming into this season.

Post #123 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:26 pm

Marcus wrote:
The Skyhook wrote:Ingram continues to display that he is not only a scorer but a very capable playmaker as well.

yeah that's what was most surprising for me from jump street. All I knew about the kid coming in was that he could put the ball in the cup. Handle could be tighter but its better than I expected and his vision and pace isn't too bad either. He's shown more patience at times than Thornton who I had high hopes for coming into this season.

I also had high expectations for Thornton coming in, but the game still moves to fast for him for big chunks of the game. He definitely flashes potential though. Ingram's passing and vision has been great the past week or so and continues to get better.

Westbreezy · Post #124 » by **Westbreezy** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:00 pm

Marcus wrote:
The Skyhook wrote:Ingram continues to display that he is not only a scorer but a very capable playmaker as well.

yeah that's what was most surprising for me from jump street. All I knew about the kid coming in was that he could put the ball in the cup. Handle could be tighter but its better than I expected and his vision and pace isn't too bad either. He's shown more patience at times than Thornton who I had high hopes for coming into this season.

Also pretty crazy that he's only 18 and won't be 19 until the beginning of the next NBA season if I recall

Post #125 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:07 pm

Westbreezy wrote:
Marcus wrote:
The Skyhook wrote:Ingram continues to display that he is not only a scorer but a very capable playmaker as well.

yeah that's what was most surprising for me from jump street. All I knew about the kid coming in was that he could put the ball in the cup. Handle could be tighter but its better than I expected and his vision and pace isn't too bad either. He's shown more patience at times than Thornton who I had high hopes for coming into this season.

Also pretty crazy that he's only 18 and won't be 19 until the beginning of the next NBA season if I recall

He'll turn 19 next September. He'll be almost a year younger than Towns and Okafor were this year, since they turned 20 in November and December. He's really young

OrlChamps2030 · Post #126 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:03 pm

i think ingram is going to be a really nice consolation prize for whoever gets the #2 pick

doordoor123 · Post #127 » by **doordoor123** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:14 am

Zmill wrote:i think ingram is going to be a really nice consolation prize for whoever gets the #2 pick

I think the same thing for Ben Simmons.

Post #128 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:00 am

Ingram looked unstoppable for the majority of the first half and then got in foul trouble which took him out of the game

anubis0713 · Post #129 » by **anubis0713** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:49 am

He played roughly 13 or 14 minutes in the second half,
The guy is starting to have a habit of vanishing when things are not going well.

rick_21 · Post #130 » by **rick_21** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:27 am

Maybe is just my perception, but he looks really slow in halfcourt.

He seems to have a below-average first step and looks very slow moving with the ball in his hands. I don't think he can blow by anybody at the NBA level with that unimpressive speed and ball handling.

He's very crafty though, the way he spins and keeps his body between the ball and the defender when driving to the rim but, is that type of moves going to work at the NBA level?

nurseryc · Post #131 » by **nurseryc** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:41 am

rick_21 wrote:Maybe is just my perception, but he looks really slow in halfcourt.

He seems to have a below-average first step and looks very slow moving with the ball in his hands. I don't think he can blow by anybody at the NBA level with that unimpressive speed and ball handling.

He's very crafty though, the way he spins and keeps his body between the ball and the defender when driving to the rim but, is that type of moves going to work at the NBA level?

Yeah i've noticed his below average first step also. I think he is going to struggle against faster quicker players in the nba.

nurseryc · Post #132 » by **nurseryc** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:43 am

anubis0713 wrote:He played roughly 13 or 14 minutes in the second half,
The guy is starting to have a habit of vanishing when things are not going well.

He was virtually non existent in the second half.

doordoor123 · Post #133 » by **doordoor123** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:08 pm

nurseryc wrote:
rick_21 wrote:Maybe is just my perception, but he looks really slow in halfcourt.

He seems to have a below-average first step and looks very slow moving with the ball in his hands. I don't think he can blow by anybody at the NBA level with that unimpressive speed and ball handling.

He's very crafty though, the way he spins and keeps his body between the ball and the defender when driving to the rim but, is that type of moves going to work at the NBA level?

Yeah i've noticed his below average first step also. I think he is going to struggle against faster quicker players in the nba.

His first step is why he's compared more to Antetokoumpo more than Durant. He's so long that it shouldn't matter because he could theoretically pull up from anywhere. He doesn't need to be quick and can pull guys off their feet with his shot. I think he may be exhausted because he was so skinny and isn't used to the workload. His first step has been off recently, but I've seen him explode from time to time. Oubre was the same way in college. He had a great first step, but would often get exhausted.

Ca · Post #134 » by Ca » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:26 pm

His half court game looks sloppy and slow to me. I hope he's not Jon Bender.

The Skyhook · Post #135 » by **The Skyhook** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:14 am

anubis0713 wrote:He played roughly 13 or 14 minutes in the second half,
The guy is starting to have a habit of vanishing when things are not going well.

I've noticed the entire team as a whole looks disinterested in the second half a few times this season. A lot of it has to do with building big lead and not doing the same things that they did to gain such a large lead in the first half. This last game foul trouble really hurt his activity level.

anubis0713 · Post #136 » by **anubis0713** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:43 am

The Skyhook wrote:
anubis0713 wrote:He played roughly 13 or 14 minutes in the second half,
The guy is starting to have a habit of vanishing when things are not going well.

I've noticed the entire team as a whole looks disinterested in the second half a few times this season. A lot of it has to do with building big lead and not doing the same things that they did to gain such a large lead in the first half. This last game foul trouble really hurt his activity level.

He played 34 minutes in the game and only missed 4 in the second half, it's not like he missed 10 or 12. 99% of players sit more than that on a nightly basis.

He didn't even look like scoring in the second half and that had nothing to do with fouls. Unless he is wide open taking jumpshots he isn't doing much on the offensive end.

Teams are focused on stopping Allen not Ingram.

The Skyhook · Post #137 » by **The Skyhook** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:18 am

anubis0713 wrote:
The Skyhook wrote:
anubis0713 wrote:He played roughly 13 or 14 minutes in the second half,
The guy is starting to have a habit of vanishing when things are not going well.

I've noticed the entire team as a whole looks disinterested in the second half a few times this season. A lot of it has to do with building big lead and not doing the same things that they did to gain such a large lead in the first half. This last game foul trouble really hurt his activity level.

He played 34 minutes in the game and only missed 4 in the second half, it's not like he missed 10 or 12. 99% of players sit more than that on a nightly basis.

He didn't even look like scoring in the second half and that had nothing to do with fouls. Unless he is wide open taking jumpshots he isn't doing much on the offensive end.

Teams are focused on stopping Allen not Ingram.

The way those refs were calling fouls I wouldn't be surprised if he was called for an offensive foul. And I disagree about the him not doing much on the offensive end unless he has wide-opn looks. He often sets screens and is always moving the ball within the flow of the offense. Just because he isn't scoring, it doesn't mean that he isn't doing anything on offense.

Post #138 » by **Duke4life831** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:49 am

anubis0713 wrote:
The Skyhook wrote:
anubis0713 wrote:He played roughly 13 or 14 minutes in the second half,
The guy is starting to have a habit of vanishing when things are not going well.

I've noticed the entire team as a whole looks disinterested in the second half a few times this season. A lot of it has to do with building big lead and not doing the same things that they did to gain such a large lead in the first half. This last game foul trouble really hurt his activity level.

He played 34 minutes in the game and only missed 4 in the second half, it's not like he missed 10 or 12. 99% of players sit more than that on a nightly basis.

He didn't even look like scoring in the second half and that had nothing to do with fouls. Unless he is wide open taking jumpshots he isn't doing much on the offensive end.

Teams are focused on stopping Allen not Ingram.

Duke plays 6 guys since Amile Jefferson got hurt. Ingram was on to a very hot start to the game until fouls became an issue. Once Jeter fouled out they were down to just Ingram and Plumlee to play the 4 and 5. It completely took him out of the game, Duke stopped running PnR because they were called for either 3 or 4 illegal screens. If you think all he is doing is taking jumpshots than you havent been watching him for the past month. Just because he didnt sit because of his foul trouble doesnt mean it didnt took him out of the game. He had to be on the court because Duke had no one to sub for him. Fouls was the main reason his numbers died off completely the 2nd half

anubis0713 · Post #139 » by **anubis0713** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:50 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
anubis0713 wrote:
The Skyhook wrote:I've noticed the entire team as a whole looks disinterested in the second half a few times this season. A lot of it has to do with building big lead and not doing the same things that they did to gain such a large lead in the first half. This last game foul trouble really hurt his activity level.

He played 34 minutes in the game and only missed 4 in the second half, it's not like he missed 10 or 12. 99% of players sit more than that on a nightly basis.

He didn't even look like scoring in the second half and that had nothing to do with fouls. Unless he is wide open taking jumpshots he isn't doing much on the offensive end.

Teams are focused on stopping Allen not Ingram.

Duke plays 6 guys since Amile Jefferson got hurt. Ingram was on to a very hot start to the game until fouls became an issue. Once Jeter fouled out they were down to just Ingram and Plumlee to play the 4 and 5. It completely took him out of the game, Duke stopped running PnR because they were called for either 3 or 4 illegal screens. If you think all he is doing is taking jumpshots than you havent been watching him for the past month. Just because he didnt sit because of his foul trouble doesnt mean it didnt took him out of the game. He had to be on the court because Duke had no one to sub for him. Fouls was the main reason his numbers died off completely the 2nd half

Duke has played 5 games that have been decided by 10 points or less. He has vanished offensively in all of them.

He had a great start against Utah then things got tight in the second half and he vanished there as well.

He played 8 minutes in the second half on 3 fouls and didn't score.

Gomes3PC · Post #140 » by **Gomes3PC** » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:26 pm

Definitely have a little concern that Ingram lacks that alpha mentality, which as a Celtics fan I was hoping he had. If he had it, he'd honestly almost be a better fit for Boston given the need for a versatile, go-to scorer who can knock down threes. He'd pair well with a physical, all-around player like Crowder, who could defend the more physical wings that would overpower the scrawny Ingram.