Luka Doncic part II

The-Power · Post #121 » by **The-Power** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:17 pm

narcolepsy wrote:You wont see it in his stats, but every time they double team him on a pick, he finds an open man who makes the extra pass for a wide open shot. They've been getting wide open looks this way whole first half and it all starts with Luka creating advantages.

Yeah, he must have half a dozen hockey assists. Had some good defensive plays and distributed the ball well, while he struggled with his shot and to get into the lane for the most part.

Don7 · Post #122 » by **Don7** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:18 pm

Well he enter the game with 18-16 for Monbus and at halftime score is 52-37 for Real , thats all you need to no about his impact.

narcolepsy · Post #123 » by **narcolepsy** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:25 pm

Yup, he also missed 2 free throws, not a great shooting day today. I'm curious how Monbus are going to try to stop his pick and roll in second half. Double teaming obviously isnt working, he's been abusing them whole second quarter.

Don7 · Post #124 » by **Don7** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:25 pm

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pacersGM · Post #125 » by **pacersGM** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:54 pm

a pick and roll genius, but cant break his man down 1&1. be it a euroleague guy or a acb guy. iso offense seems to be biggest weakness as he cant get by his man by himself.

UcanUwill · Post #126 » by **UcanUwill** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:04 pm

pacersGM wrote:a pick and roll genius, but cant break his man down 1&1. be it a euroleague guy or a acb guy. iso offense seems to be biggest weakness as he cant get by his man by himself.

At least he looks like natural dribble. If he adds few crossovers, could be effective in ISO.

J_T · Post #127 » by **J_T** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:07 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
pacersGM wrote:a pick and roll genius, but cant break his man down 1&1. be it a euroleague guy or a acb guy. iso offense seems to be biggest weakness as he cant get by his man by himself.

At least he looks like natural dribble. If he adds few crossovers, could be effective in ISO.

For some people he could add Allen Iverson's dribbling ability and they would still talk non-sense.

pacersGM · Post #128 » by **pacersGM** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:08 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
pacersGM wrote:a pick and roll genius, but cant break his man down 1&1. be it a euroleague guy or a acb guy. iso offense seems to be biggest weakness as he cant get by his man by himself.

At least he looks like natural dribble. If he adds few crossovers, could be effective in ISO.

i dont know, he tries to put the moves on them but doesnt have enough explosive or burst in the first steps.

iso plus defense seem to be the weakest part.

Don7 · Post #129 » by **Don7** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:13 pm

Solid game even whitout the three fallin , Laso manage to keep his minutes down.Generaly i wouldn't put to much stock in ACB games that he playes.He dosent put the same level of effort like vs Olympiakos(in EL)and it's understandable.The best games in ACB he played against Valencia,Barcelona,Unicaja the euroleague teams,most of the others he coast.

J_T · Post #130 » by **J_T** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:16 pm

It was about time he got a bit of rest.

AJ3 · Post #131 » by **AJ3** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:23 pm

Another solid performance, also Lasso did hold him back a bit they playing Valencia in 2 days in euroleague.

peja_the_legend · Post #132 » by **peja_the_legend** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:27 pm

pacersGM wrote:a pick and roll genius, but cant break his man down 1&1. be it a euroleague guy or a acb guy. iso offense seems to be biggest weakness as he cant get by his man by himself.

IF he is the #1 pick he'll go down in history as the first guard #1 pick who cant beat anyone off the dribble

SportsGuy8 · Post #133 » by **SportsGuy8** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:28 pm

I don't think this was just about rest. Doncic got benched for last 3 or 4 minutes after opposing team came relatively close. It looks like Laso sent a small message to Doncic.

Luka first whined to a teammate for not passing him the ball when he was open (he was correct and while such a thing seems completely normal for the NBA, it's in poor taste in Europe when it's coming from a kid, even though that kid is by far the best player on the team). Then he penetrated into a crowd and tried making a fancy pass, resulting in a turnover ... Benching followed.

It's a minor thing, though, obviously.

pacersGM · Post #134 » by **pacersGM** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:29 pm

J_T wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
pacersGM wrote:a pick and roll genius, but cant break his man down 1&1. be it a euroleague guy or a acb guy. iso offense seems to be biggest weakness as he cant get by his man by himself.

At least he looks like natural dribble. If he adds few crossovers, could be effective in ISO.

For some people he could add Allen Iverson's dribbling ability and they would still talk non-sense.

is it rally non sense that his iso game is pretty much non existent due to the lack of quickness?
or are you watching someone else?

FlorentinoPerez · Post #135 » by **FlorentinoPerez** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:32 pm

SportsGuy8 wrote:I don't think this was just about rest. Doncic got benched for last 3 or 4 minutes after opposing team came relatively close. It looks like Laso sent a small message to Doncic.

Luka first whined to a teammate for not passing him the ball when he was open (he was correct and while such a thing seems completely normal for the NBA, it's in poor taste in Europe when it's coming from a kid, even though that kid is by far the best player on the team). Then he penetrated into a crowd and tried making a fancy pass, resulting in a turnover ... Benching followed.

It's a minor thing, though, obviously.

If it is as you said... i couldnt be more happy.
Laso is a great coach and is managing Luka in a fantastic way.

Don7 · Post #136 » by **Don7** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:36 pm

peja_the_legend wrote:
pacersGM wrote:a pick and roll genius, but cant break his man down 1&1. be it a euroleague guy or a acb guy. iso offense seems to be biggest weakness as he cant get by his man by himself.

IF he is the #1 pick he'll go down in history as the first guard #1 pick who cant beat anyone off the dribble

I would swear he just break someone's ankle not long ago.But hey "cant beat anyone".

Doncic is the only player in history of the game that is dominating europe like no one befor without any athletic ability.

916fan · Post #137 » by **916fan** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:39 pm

BlueSan wrote:For me it would be really interesting to see him at
1. NO Pelicans
2. San Antonio
3. Detroit
4. New York

All of those places except NYK is completely unrealistic. Other teams have no shot at him because they won't be in the lotto.

SportsGuy8 · Post #138 » by **SportsGuy8** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:39 pm

FlorentinoPerez wrote:
SportsGuy8 wrote:I don't think this was just about rest. Doncic got benched for last 3 or 4 minutes after opposing team came relatively close. It looks like Laso sent a small message to Doncic.

Luka first whined to a teammate for not passing him the ball when he was open (he was correct and while such a thing seems completely normal for the NBA, it's in poor taste in Europe when it's coming from a kid, even though that kid is by far the best player on the team). Then he penetrated into a crowd and tried making a fancy pass, resulting in a turnover ... Benching followed.

It's a minor thing, though, obviously.

If it is as you said... i couldnt be more happy.
Laso is a great coach and is managing Luka in a fantastic way.

Yep. And let's face it, Luka needed a bit of a smack in the face. Not just today, his overall demeanor has been getting slightly cocky ... For European standards at least. It's probably not cocky enough compared to many of his American peers, ha.

narcolepsy · Post #139 » by **narcolepsy** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:40 pm

Opposing coaches should really start reading realgm forums - just always switch on Doncic and he wont be able to do anything. Why didnt anyone come up with that, really makes you wonder what kind of people coach Euroleague and ACB teams.

As for Luka, he should be a pretty good player in wheelchair basketball league.

SportsGuy8 · Post #140 » by **SportsGuy8** » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:41 pm

Don7 wrote:
peja_the_legend wrote:
pacersGM wrote:a pick and roll genius, but cant break his man down 1&1. be it a euroleague guy or a acb guy. iso offense seems to be biggest weakness as he cant get by his man by himself.

IF he is the #1 pick he'll go down in history as the first guard #1 pick who cant beat anyone off the dribble

I would swear he just break someone's ankle not long ago.But hey "cant beat anyone".

Doncic is the only player in history of the game that is dominating europe like no one befor without any athletic ability.

And that someone even played in the NBA for 3 seasons. :lol: