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Re: RJ Barrett 

Post#121 » by Alatan » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:38 pm

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Alatan wrote:Bust.

I’m no where near high on R.J. as I was harden or Doncic, but I’m pretty confident he won’t bust. May not be a perennial all star, but he’s too smart, skilled & tenacious not to be a plus-starter for a decade barring injuries.


Starter sure. Plust starter maybe. Perenial allstar? Hahaha. The guy is painfully average. Thats a bust as a high loto pick.
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Post#122 » by cgf » Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:43 pm

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Alatan wrote:Bust.

I’m no where near high on R.J. as I was harden or Doncic, but I’m pretty confident he won’t bust. May not be a perennial all star, but he’s too smart, skilled & tenacious not to be a plus-starter for a decade barring injuries.


Starter sure. Plust starter maybe. Perenial allstar? Hahaha. The guy is painfully average. Thats a bust as a high loto pick.


Re-read my post.
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Post#123 » by 13th Man » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:02 pm

He is elite at finding his way to the basket and is an above average finisher, that alone will almost guarantee that he won't be a bust. He's just not a generational type player as some have touted him to be.
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Post#124 » by Alatan » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:48 pm

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cgf wrote:I’m no where near high on R.J. as I was harden or Doncic, but I’m pretty confident he won’t bust. May not be a perennial all star, but he’s too smart, skilled & tenacious not to be a plus-starter for a decade barring injuries.


Starter sure. Plust starter maybe. Perenial allstar? Hahaha. The guy is painfully average. Thats a bust as a high loto pick.


Re-read my post.


No need. There is 0% chance he will be a perennial allstar so it was funny to even mention it.
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Post#125 » by cgf » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:55 pm

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Starter sure. Plust starter maybe. Perenial allstar? Hahaha. The guy is painfully average. Thats a bust as a high loto pick.


Re-read my post.


No need. There is 0% chance he will be a perennial allstar so it was funny to even mention it.


...you say this as though my posts suggests I think he will be a perennial allstar :lol:
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Re: RJ Barrett 

Post#126 » by orlandomanic » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:11 pm

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Alatan wrote:Bust.

I’m no where near high on R.J. as I was harden or Doncic, but I’m pretty confident he won’t bust. May not be a perennial all star, but he’s too smart, skilled & tenacious not to be a plus-starter for a decade barring injuries.



You contradict yourself here. You say he is not a bust and not a perennial all star. Same thing can be said for a guy like Marvin Williams who has never been an all star but has been a solid starter throughout his whole 15yr career but is still labeled as a bust.

You are mucking the line for what is a bust.

But in the end, i think we three all agree with each other, Barrett because of his shooting will never be an All Star, but will probably have a 10 year career with being a starter for the majority of that time.
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Post#127 » by cgf » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:25 am

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Alatan wrote:Bust.

I’m no where near high on R.J. as I was harden or Doncic, but I’m pretty confident he won’t bust. May not be a perennial all star, but he’s too smart, skilled & tenacious not to be a plus-starter for a decade barring injuries.



You contradict yourself here. You say he is not a bust and not a perennial all star. Same thing can be said for a guy like Marvin Williams who has never been an all star but has been a solid starter throughout his whole 15yr career but is still labeled as a bust.

You are mucking the line for what is a bust.

But in the end, i think we three all agree with each other, Barrett because of his shooting will never be an All Star, but will probably have a 10 year career with being a starter for the majority of that time.


Marvin is a great example of the way the sport has evolved...but he’s never been a plus-starter or even 1-time allstar. He was a bust.

R.J. has a skill level, creativity, & drive that marvin never did; so he should make an all star game or two even if I don’t think he’ll be a perennial all star.
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Post#128 » by CptCrunch » Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:03 pm

RJ reminds of me Kobe mixed with Michael Redd. Has that elite shot jacking instincts and isn't afraid to put up 30 shots if needed.

Plus he seems to have good handles, great passing and above average athleticism for his position in the NBA (SG).

He has been my #1 since his the day he demolished USA basketball. Zion is nice and probably has a higher ceiling but he has a few ???. Cam is probably the one who will challenge RJ for #1.
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Post#129 » by UcanUwill » Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:10 pm

paulbball wrote:RJ reminds of me Kobe mixed with Michael Redd. Has that elite shot jacking instincts and isn't afraid to put up 30 shots if needed.

Plus he seems to have good handles, great passing and above average athleticism for his position in the NBA (SG).

He has been my #1 since his the day he demolished USA basketball. Zion is nice and probably has a higher ceiling but he has a few ???. Cam is probably the one who will challenge RJ for #1.


After that USA video, I rushed to make his highligths edit, but I knew it would be one of my least watched videos, because by the time I finished, many other youtubers already had same videos on their channels. It was that impressive.

Personally, I don't see Kobe tho, way less shot dominant, he is kinda pass first I would even say.
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Post#130 » by Hoopz Afrik » Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:22 pm

I see a lot of Jimmy Butler in him
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Post#131 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:23 pm

The more I watch him the less I like him. As a Duke fan Im really hoping many of you are right with these comparisons.
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Post#132 » by orlandomanic » Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:24 pm

Jimmy Butler wouldn't be a good comparison for Barrett because Butler was an elite shooter as a freshmen and doesn't have a broken jump shot like Barrett. Butler was shooting 50% from three and 79% from the free throw line in his first full season in college. Barrett on the other hand in 3 game shot 19% from three and 48% from the free throw line.

Gerald Wallace or Tyreke Evans as a freshmen would be a good comparison to Barrett, because Wallace and Evans struggled alot with their shot all throughout their freshmen year.
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Post#133 » by UcanUwill » Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:43 pm

Alatan wrote:
cgf wrote:
Alatan wrote:Bust.

I’m no where near high on R.J. as I was harden or Doncic, but I’m pretty confident he won’t bust. May not be a perennial all star, but he’s too smart, skilled & tenacious not to be a plus-starter for a decade barring injuries.


Starter sure. Plust starter maybe. Perenial allstar? Hahaha. The guy is painfully average. Thats a bust as a high loto pick.


how is he average, he destroyed his age competition on world stage.
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Post#134 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:50 pm

orlandomanic wrote:Jimmy Butler wouldn't be a good comparison for Barrett because Butler was an elite shooter as a freshmen and doesn't have a broken jump shot like Barrett. Butler was shooting 50% from three and 79% from the free throw line in his first full season in college. Barrett on the other hand in 3 game shot 19% from three and 48% from the free throw line.

Gerald Wallace or Tyreke Evans as a freshmen would be a good comparison to Barrett, because Wallace and Evans struggled alot with their shot all throughout their freshmen year.


What? Jimmy Butler played 20 minutes a game as a freshman and didn't make a single 3 that season (that is a full season). People say Marvin Bagley didn't have enough attempts for his 39% to mean much. Bagley made more 3s last season than any single season for Butler. Butler in 3 years made 36 3s, for comparison Justise Winslow made 46 3s in his lone season at Duke. Also Butler shot 76% from the line his first 2 years and 78% his junior year.
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Post#135 » by orlandomanic » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:12 pm

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orlandomanic wrote:Jimmy Butler wouldn't be a good comparison for Barrett because Butler was an elite shooter as a freshmen and doesn't have a broken jump shot like Barrett. Butler was shooting 50% from three and 79% from the free throw line in his first full season in college. Barrett on the other hand in 3 game shot 19% from three and 48% from the free throw line.

Gerald Wallace or Tyreke Evans as a freshmen would be a good comparison to Barrett, because Wallace and Evans struggled alot with their shot all throughout their freshmen year.


What? Jimmy Butler played 20 minutes a game as a freshman and didn't make a single 3 that season (that is a full season). People say Marvin Bagley didn't have enough attempts for his 39% to mean much. Bagley made more 3s last season than any single season for Butler. Butler in 3 years made 36 3s, for comparison Justise Winslow made 46 3s in his lone season at Duke. Also Butler shot 76% from the line his first 2 years and 78% his junior year.


Jimmy Butler's freshmen year was spent in junior college bro... :roll:
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Post#136 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:20 pm

orlandomanic wrote:
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orlandomanic wrote:Jimmy Butler wouldn't be a good comparison for Barrett because Butler was an elite shooter as a freshmen and doesn't have a broken jump shot like Barrett. Butler was shooting 50% from three and 79% from the free throw line in his first full season in college. Barrett on the other hand in 3 game shot 19% from three and 48% from the free throw line.

Gerald Wallace or Tyreke Evans as a freshmen would be a good comparison to Barrett, because Wallace and Evans struggled alot with their shot all throughout their freshmen year.


What? Jimmy Butler played 20 minutes a game as a freshman and didn't make a single 3 that season (that is a full season). People say Marvin Bagley didn't have enough attempts for his 39% to mean much. Bagley made more 3s last season than any single season for Butler. Butler in 3 years made 36 3s, for comparison Justise Winslow made 46 3s in his lone season at Duke. Also Butler shot 76% from the line his first 2 years and 78% his junior year.


Jimmy Butler's freshmen year was spent in junior college bro... :roll:


Kind of proves my point even more then. As a Sophomore playing 20 minutes a game he didnt make a single 3pt shot. As a Soph/Junior/Senior combined he only made 36 3s. So please tell me how that is an elite shooter as a freshman while as a sophomore he didnt make a single 3 and shot 76% from the line?
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Post#137 » by orlandomanic » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:27 pm

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What? Jimmy Butler played 20 minutes a game as a freshman and didn't make a single 3 that season (that is a full season). People say Marvin Bagley didn't have enough attempts for his 39% to mean much. Bagley made more 3s last season than any single season for Butler. Butler in 3 years made 36 3s, for comparison Justise Winslow made 46 3s in his lone season at Duke. Also Butler shot 76% from the line his first 2 years and 78% his junior year.


Jimmy Butler's freshmen year was spent in junior college bro... :roll:


Kind of proves my point even more then. As a Sophomore playing 20 minutes a game he didnt make a single 3pt shot. As a Soph/Junior/Senior combined he only made 36 3s. So please tell me how that is an elite shooter as a freshman while as a sophomore he didnt make a single 3 and shot 76% from the line?



Butler as a freshmen was shooting 50% from three and 79% from the free throw line. Then transferred to Marquette and only average 6 minutes per game riding the bench and getting multiple DNPs and suffered an injury that kept him out the last 18 games of the year. As a junior, he then moved into the starting line up for Marquette where he shot 51% from three.

Butler has always been an elite shooter, shooting 50% from three his freshmen year, being injured his sophomore year, then shooting 51% from three in his Junior year. This is nothing like Barrett... :roll:
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Post#138 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:39 pm

orlandomanic wrote:
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Jimmy Butler's freshmen year was spent in junior college bro... :roll:


Kind of proves my point even more then. As a Sophomore playing 20 minutes a game he didnt make a single 3pt shot. As a Soph/Junior/Senior combined he only made 36 3s. So please tell me how that is an elite shooter as a freshman while as a sophomore he didnt make a single 3 and shot 76% from the line?



Butler as a freshmen was shooting 50% from three and 79% from the free throw line. Then transferred to Marquette and only average 6 minutes per game riding the bench and getting multiple DNPs and suffered an injury that kept him out the last 18 games of the year. As a junior, he then moved into the starting line up for Marquette where he shot 51% from three.

Butler has always been an elite shooter, shooting 50% from three his freshmen year, being injured his sophomore year, then shooting 51% from three in his Junior year. This is nothing like Barrett... :roll:


Where are you getting these stats from? This doesnt show an injury riddled season

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jimmy-butler-1.html

I cant find a single article about him being injured while at Marquette. From everything I have read, Butler played his freshmen year at Tyler Junior College. After his freshman year, he signed with Marquette and as a sophomore played 35 games while getting 20 minutes a night.

Im not seeing this 50% from 3 that youre talking about as a freshman, also on what volume are we talking about. I also dont see the 51% from 3 as junior either, I see 50% on just 32 attempts.

I mean one of Butler's biggest knocks coming out of college was his lack of a consistent 3pt shot. He was not viewed as an elite shooter.
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Re: RJ Barrett 

Post#139 » by nybluemeadow » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:43 pm

Alatan wrote:Bust.


I don't see Barrett ever being an all star, but i think he can be a solid NBA starter like Deng but without the jump shot.
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Post#140 » by nybluemeadow » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:46 pm

Just so you know, the scouting report for Jimmy Butler in junior college when he was in Tyler, was that he was a high motor 3D player who was considered a very good shooter but with poor handles. Alot of D1 schools at the time just saw him as 3D role player with a good work ethic.

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