Darius Garland

[No-Man]

Garland scares me to project. Seems so small. And then you realize that if we all saw him do his thing 30+ times this year he would have done so much amazing stuff that he’s have a huge base here as a 2-5 pick.


If you are Chicago or whoever how do you look at garland vs Coby White ?

He's basically Steph-sized with longer wingspan. It's not thaaaat small.

Steph is a legit 6-3, Garland is and inch to an inch and a half shorter (6-1 barefoot tops) and he has a way worse frame than Steph did in Davidson, he is a tad longer

[tundraknight]

Kemba Walker 2.0?

[Hoopz Afrik]

Kemba Walker 2.0?

That's how I see it

[No-Man]

Kemba Walker 2.0?

He doesn't really have that quickness, Kemba is a different player physically, much more incisive, had to improve his shooting to get his game to translate, Garland is the opposite, has the shooting but not really the game

[doordoor123]

i like Coby for Memphis...can play off-ball considerably well and is a good fit w/ JJJ. Romeo makes sense for them too.

He’s another I think could be a good fit, Coby. He has the size and IQ defensively to help defend against teams and he’s just a smart player.

[GimmeDat]

I'd be pretty impressed if Garland becomes a Kemba, that's an absolute ceiling right there. But I think his archetype is somewhere between a Kemba type and a Lillard.

It's a fine line between sparkplug scoring PG and top tier guy.. Garland will need to prove that he can't just create and shoot but do it efficiently both on the ball and off, he needs to have a solid level of dynamism as an athlete, especially in the way he handles and manipulates defenders, I think he'll need to find at least some value defensively, and though he's unlikely to ever be a standout play-maker, at least be passable at running an offense and making the right plays.

Also very interested to see how he measures.

I do believe in his jumper, it looks sharp, and the handle is tight and quick, but I do agree with the lack of relative 'incisiveness'. You watch a guy like Kemba, and the handle is not just sharp, but the actual movements he makes offensive have such staggeringly explosive changes of pace and direction that he is a nightmare to guard and create his shot at will against NBA defenders. Lillard has a highly functional release, insane range, a high quality 1st step, and is a quality athlete who is strong and explosive with space, not to mention a crafty finisher.

I watch the footage and he ticks most of the boxes, but I'm not going to project him too highly with so little a college sample, because he needs to be elite at his skill-set to be a high level success, because otherwise the lack of quality 'PG' skills and defense are flaws that will really hurt him.

[No-Man]

He is much more like a higher volume from 3 Jeff Teague than anything to me, or a smaller CJ

[King Ken]

Kemba couldn't shoot out of UCONN. Can we just compare him to guys who were prospects and not polished NBA stars please?

He is an unique prospect. He compares offensively favorable to C.J. McCollum and DeAaron Fox. Defensive, he has the prospect of your average PG prospect. Nothing stands out but nothing too bad either.

He clearly needs more development. I am buying his stock

[clyde21]

incisive is typically a way to describe forwards in soccer

hmmm, i don't see how Garland isn't incisive? especially when you look at his HS tape.

Kyrie is probably his best comp, but not as dynamic obviously at the rim.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Can’t remember where I saw this.

Mo Williams comp?

[CoreyVillains]

DP

[CoreyVillains]

incisive is typically a way to describe forwards in soccer

hmmm, i don't see how Garland isn't incisive? especially when you look at his HS tape.

Kyrie is probably his best comp, but not as dynamic obviously at the rim.

Kinda off topic but I think Kyrie is kind of overrated as a finisher. He’s certainly the flashiest and he’s certainly very good. But it isn’t like he shoots a super high % of his shots there and his %’s aren’t mind boggling in comparison to his peers.

[bigworld2017]

incisive is typically a way to describe forwards in soccer

hmmm, i don't see how Garland isn't incisive? especially when you look at his HS tape.

Kyrie is probably his best comp, but not as dynamic obviously at the rim.

Kinda off topic but I think Kyrie is kind of overrated as a finisher. He’s certainly the flashiest and he’s certainly very good. But it isn’t like he shoots a super high % of his shots there and his %’s aren’t mind boggling in comparison to his peers.

A once top tier player who now thinks he's better than he really is. I'd steer clear of him at this point. He will not provide the value of his high price tag.

[916fan]

incisive is typically a way to describe forwards in soccer

hmmm, i don't see how Garland isn't incisive? especially when you look at his HS tape.

Kyrie is probably his best comp, but not as dynamic obviously at the rim.

Kinda off topic but I think Kyrie is kind of overrated as a finisher. He’s certainly the flashiest and he’s certainly very good. But it isn’t like he shoots a super high % of his shots there and his %’s aren’t mind boggling in comparison to his peers.

Sorry, but I/stats have to disagree. This year among ALL NBA players who've play at least 25mpg and average at least 3 drives a game, Kyrie ranks 12th overall in FG% at 54.1%. If you look at just PGs, he's 3rd overall.

Here's the FG% list for PGs:
1. Bledsoe 56.9
2. Lowry 54.4
3. Irving 54.1
4. Harden 52.8
5. Rose 52.7
6. Dinwiddie 52.1
7. Holiday 52.0
8. Simmons 51.7
9. D'Russell 50.8
10. Young 50.2
11. Westbrook 50.2
12. Curry 50.0
13. Walker 49.8
14. SGA 49.7
15. DJ 49.2
16. Rubio 49.2
17. Doncic 48.7
18. Lillard 48.1
19. DSJ 47.1
20. Mudiay 46.9

(omitted Brogdon and White who are actually 4&5)

https://stats.nba.com/players/drives/?sort=DRIVE_FG_PCT&dir=1&CF=DRIVES*GE*3:MIN*G*25:GP*G*41&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

He definitely excels among other PGs in the NBA and even more so against everyone else.

[916fan]

Kinda off topic but I think Kyrie is kind of overrated as a finisher. He’s certainly the flashiest and he’s certainly very good. But it isn’t like he shoots a super high % of his shots there and his %’s aren’t mind boggling in comparison to his peers.

A once top tier player who now thinks he's better than he really is. I'd steer clear of him at this point. He will not provide the value of his high price tag.[/quote]
This narrative is such an overreaction to a poor playoff series. When was he "a once top tier player"? He still is top tier.

[CoreyVillains]

incisive is typically a way to describe forwards in soccer

hmmm, i don't see how Garland isn't incisive? especially when you look at his HS tape.

Kyrie is probably his best comp, but not as dynamic obviously at the rim.

Kinda off topic but I think Kyrie is kind of overrated as a finisher. He’s certainly the flashiest and he’s certainly very good. But it isn’t like he shoots a super high % of his shots there and his %’s aren’t mind boggling in comparison to his peers.

Sorry, but I/stats have to disagree. This year among ALL NBA players who've play at least 25mpg and average at least 3 drives a game, Kyrie ranks 12th overall in FG% at 54.1%. If you look at just PGs, he's 3rd overall.

Here's the FG% list for PGs:
1. Bledsoe 56.9
2. Lowry 54.4
3. Irving 54.1
4. Harden 52.8
5. Rose 52.7
6. Dinwiddie 52.1
7. Holiday 52.0
8. Simmons 51.7
9. D'Russell 50.8
10. Young 50.2
11. Westbrook 50.2
12. Curry 50.0
13. Walker 49.8
14. SGA 49.7
15. DJ 49.2
16. Rubio 49.2
17. Doncic 48.7
18. Lillard 48.1
19. DSJ 47.1
20. Mudiay 46.9

(omitted Brogdon and White who are actually 4&5)

https://stats.nba.com/players/drives/?sort=DRIVE_FG_PCT&dir=1&CF=DRIVES*GE*3:MIN*G*25:GP*G*41&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

He definitely excels among other PGs in the NBA and even more so against everyone else.

People consistently call him the best guard finisher of all time. Your list alone shows that’s not true for even this year. And that’s just based off of the NBA.com numbers, go use other metrics from elsewhere and it says the same. He’s very very good, does it in spectacular fashion, however his finishing is a bit overrated in the broader sense when looking at what others are also capable of.

[BostonCouchGM]

He's a Lillard clone. It's uncanny. But Lillard had four years in college. He could go anywhere from #3 to #10 depending on team needs. And if is near what Lillard became it's just more proof this draft class is much better than most think.

[Ruzious]

He's a Lillard clone. It's uncanny. But Lillard had four years in college. He could go anywhere from #3 to #10 depending on team needs. And if is near what Lillard became it's just more proof this draft class is much better than most think.

Lillard's a bit quicker and a more explosive finisher, but yeah, there are similarities - Garland has that same deep 3 range and might be more consistent with his shot, and he has that same type of tremendous ball-handling ability. He's a special offensive talent who I have as the 3rd best prospect in the draft.

[Dr Aki]

if the lakers don't manage to get davis, garland is the kid i want.

everyone knows the lakers need more speed, handles and shooting on the perimeter

[baldur]

feels like a lock for the suns to me unless they trade for conley. in that range, it is full of wings, which the suns dont need at all.