Aleksej Pokusevski

[No-Man]

Poku isn't getting stashed, he doesn't want that

Source?

Me

[clyde21]

none of these euro guys that declare and get drafted high *want* to be stashed

[getrichordie]

none of these euro guys that get declare and get drafted high *want* to be stashed

Yup.

As I understand it, it’s all about the NBA buyout cost vs. NBA contract.

[No-Man]

Young dudes never to very rarely have buyouts who are not easy to get done, so nope that ain't it

[getrichordie]

Young dudes never to very rarely have buyouts who are not easy to get done, so nope that ain't it

Guess it is one of those "very rare" instances because I'm hearing Serbia wants upwards of $1-$1.5M depending on how high he is selected.

[No-Man]

Young dudes never to very rarely have buyouts who are not easy to get done, so nope that ain't it

Guess it is one of those "very rare" instances because I'm hearing Serbia wants upwards of $1-$1.5M depending on how high he is selected.

Serbia? He plays for Olympiakos dude

Also, NBA teams can pay up to 750k without dipping into their cap, it won't be an issue whatsoever

[getrichordie]

Young dudes never to very rarely have buyouts who are not easy to get done, so nope that ain't it

Guess it is one of those "very rare" instances because I'm hearing Serbia wants upwards of $1-$1.5M depending on how high he is selected.

Serbia? He plays for Olympiakos dude

Also, NBA teams can pay up to 750k without dipping into their cap, it won't be an issue whatsoever

Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry I made a mistake.

Yeah, but the rest comes out of his salary.

[No-Man]

Dude, don't pretend to know

And not necessarily, the team likely will forfeit the rest to be able to keep his rights if he comes back to Europe for example

[getrichordie]

Dude, don't pretend to know

And not necessarily, the team likely will forfeit the rest to be able to keep his rights if he comes back to Europe for example

Pretend to know what? That is usually what happens. Teams cover a portion of the buy out and the player is responsible for the rest, but it gets deducted from his paychecks.

[UcanUwill]

Knowing his role in Olympiacoos, he is second team player, even if hes drafted 30th. in the draft, his NBA rookie salary would be much higher than his Olympiacos one, so I can see him coming over right away and cowering part of his own buyout.

[Mickey8]

I thought there was a wide range of values associated with him. As I seen him mocked all the way from late teens to late 20s

It's just a question of which teams are patient enough to develop him for 2 - 3 years before they get anything in return.

denver is patient and Poku is also from Serbia like Jokic

Also, member Klyde something, obviously tries to look silly in few years

Bender? Because he is 7 foot tall?

Pokusevski is definitely a Durant type of player, and don't be surprised if some team gets him in top 10

He better get physically stronger because he was even weak for the junior level , at the previous u18 European tournament it was so obvious , he had a hard time to finish around rim, weak shot releases etc , thats his biggest issue right now and I really cant see him contribute at the NBA level anytime soon.

[Catchall]

It's just a question of which teams are patient enough to develop him for 2 - 3 years before they get anything in return.

denver is patient and Poku is also from Serbia like Jokic

Also, member Klyde something, obviously tries to look silly in few years

Bender? Because he is 7 foot tall?

Pokusevski is definitely a Durant type of player, and don't be surprised if some team gets him in top 10

He better get physically stronger because he was even weak for the junior level , at the previous u18 European tournament it was so obvious , he had a hard time to finish around rim, weak shot releases etc , thats his biggest issue right now and I really cant see him contribute at the NBA level anytime soon.

He might be able to contribute by his second season now that the NBA season schedule has been pushed back by 2 months. See what he's like in 18 months. The skill level is there for the most part, it's just his body that's holding him back. Adding 20 lbs in 20 months is doable.

[getrichordie]

Knowing his role in Olympiacoos, he is second team player, even if hes drafted 30th. in the draft, his NBA rookie salary would be much higher than his Olympiacos one, so I can see him coming over right away and cowering part of his own buyout.

How much does the 30th pick make and how much is he making on Olympiacos to the point where they are potentially asking a $1.5M buyout?

[UcanUwill]

Knowing his role in Olympiacoos, he is second team player, even if hes drafted 30th. in the draft, his NBA rookie salary would be much higher than his Olympiacos one, so I can see him coming over right away and cowering part of his own buyout.

How much does the 30th pick make and how much is he making on Olympiacos to the point where they are potentially asking a $1.5M buyout?

I believe 30th. pic makes 1.3 Million dollars. I dont know how much Aleksei makes right now, but it must a ton of less, with 1.3 million you can buy a very good Euroleague caliber player, where this guy is on their junior team. He would probably broke even if he spent most of his year one NBA salary on his buyout himself, and if he sticks around (which is not given, high bust potential IMO), getting in the league as soon as possible is better financial decision than spending extra 2 years in Greece playing for much less and delaying your second NBA contract at the same time.

[No-Man]

Again Oly ain't asking for a 1.5m buyout

[getrichordie]

Again Oly ain't asking for a 1.5m buyout

You keep spewing stuff as if it’s fact but you never provide any evidence.

via EuroHoops

Serbian prospect Aleksej Pokusevski may even reach the number of 1.5 million according to Novasports. Pokusevski’s multiyear contract with Olympiacos includes an NBA buyout clause with a sum that may change depending on how high the player will be picked in the upcoming Draft. If Pokusevski is selected among the first 20 picks then, then his buyout will be set above 1 million and may even be increased to 1.5 million under specific circumstances: Pokusevski becoming a lottery pick.

[No-Man]

Again, I got sources and I know how euro clubs work, used to work for one, Poku will be able to get a discount plus make the payment staggered over time as well, not at once, the buyout won't be a problem in his case whatsoever it's a moot discussion

[getrichordie]

Again, I got sources and I know how euro clubs work, used to work for one, Poku will be able to get a discount plus make the payment staggered over time as well, not at once, the buyout won't be a problem in his case whatsoever it's a moot discussion

Again? How the hell am I supposed to know you used to work for a euro club? In what capacity? Selling tickets?

But it’s whatever, I’ll take your word for it.

I knew he didn’t have to pay it all at once. That would be absurd.

[No-Man]

Nah, basketball ops

Anyway, it's a moot point, buyouts are only a thing for guys like Campazzo, younglins very very rarely got issues to come over due to them

Some guys want to get stashed to avoid the rookie scale, or because they want to compete/improve in Europe before, all I was saying is that even if some may think Poku should, he isn't interested in that and wants to come over right away, same for Bolmaro

From what I heard it's pretty straight forward, guys like Eboua, N'Doye, Rokas etc will do whatever the NBA team wants (come over or be stashed) and the other higher touted guys (Deni, the frenchis, Poku, Bolmaro etc) all want to come over right away

[BlazersBroncos]

He doesn't really have a ideal comparison. His scoring game is going to be close to Kaminsky IMO, but his straight line fluidity is on a whole different level. Who knows if he can translate that to attacking the basket, taking contact, etc but if he can, it could be pretty special to watch. Its blasphemy, but some of his offensive game reminds me of Garnett. Late Boston years KG, not the prime. But that high post passing, straight line fluidity, ballhandling. A odd combination of Kaminsky and late KG would what I could see his offensive ceiling as. On defense he seems like the type of help defender that could steal a good number of blocks but I am hesitant on his lateral ability on switches (He should be good for his size, but not someone you talk about like Zach Collins or JJJ as good young switch guys) and clearly he would get steamrolled as a traditional post.

He certainly has intrigue, lots of it. The issue will be, is there a middle ground. He has some unicorn skills and maybe he shows out enough to justify high usage, handling the rock, etc. But that's pretty unlikely to happen. Other end of the spectrum, he is clearly in the mold of many twigy bigs who have busted (Thon, Bol, Bender). But the real way he carves a niche in the league will likely be as a complimentary player and to do that he is going to have to develop in a lot of areas that are not currently flashing as much.

I still love the potential. I wouldn't balk at him going top 20. His ability to square up on a 3PT shot at his height while coming around a screen or on the move is borderline special. That's more intriguing to me than him handling the rock all the way down the floor and instigating the play.

And to me the main difference between Poku and Bol is the mobility. Poku isn't a twitchy guy, but his body control and ease of movement is on the ABSOLUTE opposite side of the spectrum as Bol. I think Bol can be a rotation big, but he is limited to C and unless he get tougher, bigger and more passionate he is going to be steamrolled there IMO. I don't trust his conditioning one bit either and that's going to take lots of time w/ a offseason trainer to correct, but I am not sure he is the type to put the work in to do so. I hate commenting on young guys commitment to the game, but there was never more smoke in this regard than w/ Bol, so while I generally dismiss this, I am assuming there is fire there as well.