Zach Edey, 7-4

[ItsDanger]

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Everyone had a chance this draft, will be interesting next year to see what happens. Missed opportunity.

[EvanZ]

He can’t do much about getting faster but he could improve his playmaking and shooting.


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[CP War Hawks]

I mean I'd suspect he could get late 1st rd consideration in 2024. Not feeling weight coming in over 300 at the combine. 275 and lower would make it hard to past on him in the later rd. Also needs to avoid significant injury obviously.

[clyde21]

he would've gotten late 1st consideration this year too, don't think him coming back is him trying to position himself to get drafted higher next year, I think there is a ceiling on how a guy like this can get drafted. he probably got paid good $ to go back and instead of spending most of next year spending the entire year on someone's bench.

[azcatz11]

Anyone think he can be a top 10 pick this season?

[Chuck Everett]

Anyone think he can be a top 10 pick this season?

Nope. However, for teams that have multiple firsts, I do think someone could take a flyer on him in the bottom third of the first round. There are a lot of bad backup 5's in the NBA. He can definitely find a role somewhere.

[TheDraftGuy]

Anyone think he can be a top 10 pick this season?

He won't but I think he should be.

As someone who identified Kessler, Duren, and Gobert and felt, at the time, that they should've gone much higher (also had Chet easily above Jabari when there was much debate about Top 3 order)....I do think he is worthy of being Top 10-15 in a more average to below average draft like this one. In that sense, he's a GM's career saver if they acquire him in the first round.

Otherwise, I get the feeling this draft will be similar to 2014 but not as talented.

My hot take is that Clingan is going to be the Embiid of this draft (not as talented obviously but has slight injury concern despite tremendous skills, projected to go Top 10 atm, resembling something like Daugherty mixed with Ewing) and Edey will be the Jokic (again, not as talented or skilled but hyperefficient numbers and advanced stats prior to draft, front offices say he's too slow and not mobile enough to last in the NBA, Yao Ming and Gobert put together).

[TheSuzerain]

I think he's easy top 10.

A big part of that is that you people overrate how good a late lottery pick actually is (read: not good/valuable).

Even good drafts very quickly hit the point of "chaff" pretty quickly. And this year is not a good draft seems to me (given how bad the American frosh seemingly are).

[crows2]

I think he's easy top 10.

A big part of that is that you people overrate how good a late lottery pick actually is (read: not good/valuable).

Even good drafts very quickly hit the point of "chaff" pretty quickly. And this year is not a good draft seems to me (given how bad the American frosh seemingly are).

I think it’s less overrating the value of the pick, and more misunderstanding the kind of player that most teams should be looking for at that pick.

You look at someone like Jamie Jacquez, who most people thought the Heat reached for at pick 18. Yes, he’ll likely never be a star, but he’s already putting up decent production as a rookie and looks capable of being a good role player in the league.

That’s the kind of standard you should be looking for at that point in the draft. If you’re expecting a potential star, you’ll be disappointed 9 times out of 10.

[TheSuzerain]

I think he's easy top 10.

A big part of that is that you people overrate how good a late lottery pick actually is (read: not good/valuable).

Even good drafts very quickly hit the point of "chaff" pretty quickly. And this year is not a good draft seems to me (given how bad the American frosh seemingly are).

I think it’s less overrating the value of the pick, and more misunderstanding the kind of player that most teams should be looking for at that pick.

You look at someone like Jamie Jacquez, who most people thought the Heat reached for at pick 18. Yes, he’ll likely never be a star, but he’s already putting up decent production as a rookie and looks capable of being a good role player in the league.

That’s the kind of standard you should be looking for at that point in the draft. If you’re expecting a potential star, you’ll be disappointed 9 times out of 10.

To me, landing a star is unlikely but that remains a big part of the 'value' of such picks.

And if Edey has a higher chance of having star-level impact then he should be drafted over most of the other guys who are milquetoast trait guys.

The point is scarcity. There are Jett Howards, Jarace Walkers nearly every draft. Edey is one of one with his physical profile/skillset.

I like Jaquez a lot though.

[Hal14]

Anyone think he can be a top 10 pick this season?

He won't but I think he should be.

As someone who identified Kessler, Duren, and Gobert and felt, at the time, that they should've gone much higher (also had Chet easily above Jabari when there was much debate about Top 3 order)....I do think he is worthy of being Top 10-15 in a more average to below average draft like this one. In that sense, he's a GM's career saver if they acquire him in the first round.

Otherwise, I get the feeling this draft will be similar to 2014 but not as talented.

My hot take is that Clingan is going to be the Embiid of this draft (not as talented obviously but has slight injury concern despite tremendous skills, projected to go Top 10 atm, resembling something like Daugherty mixed with Ewing) and Edey will be the Jokic (again, not as talented or skilled but hyperefficient numbers and advanced stats prior to draft, front offices say he's too slow and not mobile enough to last in the NBA, Yao Ming and Gobert put together).

You identified Duren?

Thousands of people knew he was a stud when he was dominating at Montverde and on Team Final over a year before he was drafted.

[Hoopz Afrik]

Anyone think he can be a top 10 pick this season?

Top 10 might be a bit rich but he'd definitely be a first rounder for me.

[ItsDanger]

I'm very optimistic of his chances in the right system but I wouldn't spend high draft capital on him. Maybe early 20s but more likely in the 31-40 range. Players like this don't have a good injury history. People tend to overrate a single player's defensive issues when its the 5 man unit that matters. No team is recording shutouts in NBA. Some mention weight but at that frame, he's not getting below 285.

[TheSuzerain]

35 points on 20 shots with only 2 TOs against Bama.

Fouled out both of their centers.

Also did well to limit Bama at the rim (Sears went off from 3 though).

Very fun game.

[MemphisX]

Edey or Clingan?

[TheDraftGuy]

Edey or Clingan?

You'll be happy with either. The Duren and Kessler of this draft, imo

[azcatz11]

Edey or Clingan?

You'll be happy with either. The Duren and Kessler of this draft, imo

Edey can’t move at all. I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 ft pole

[FarBeyondDriven]

I see Zubac and Adams are your likely ceilings for guys like Edey and Clingan. Certainly worth drafting as early as the late 1st but likely mid to late 2nd.

[MemphisX]

I see Zubac and Adams are your likely ceilings for guys like Edey and Clingan. Certainly worth drafting as early as the late 1st but likely mid to late 2nd.

A starting center to me is worth lottery consideration. Even someone like Zubac and Adams.

[BlazersBroncos]

I see Clingan as a sort of super-Zubac and a starting caliber guy.

Edey to me is a upper tier bench C - probably worth a pick in the 25-40 range. A guy that can give you 15-20mpg and change the flow of a game just due to his post gravity. Its hard to find a comparison for him, offensively he is a lot like Yao w/o that sweet midrange shot.

Further, I think a team takes him far earlier than is expected (Middle teens IMO) - and I think unlike most players he has a huge variance in what he ends up as in the NBA - I can see him as a 20/10 hulk of a big or a guy that is out of the league when his rookie deal is up. I just have no idea on him.