Shaedon Sharpe - Kentucky

[Duke4life831]

That all sounds bad, but remember it's from an article written on January 8th. Hopefully a lot has changed since then.

Yes, and a month later on February 7, what article came out then? Was at an article about Sharpe dominating the SEC, dropping 30 points in a win over Alabama?

Nope, it was this:
https://www.si.com/college/2022/02/07/shaedon-sharpe-will-not-play-for-kentucky-this-season

Okay but that was literally the plan from the time Sharpe signed on to go to UK. Again Sharpe went to UK to get paid to train at a world class facility. Everything else is just Cal and company spinning things so UK fans dont get pissed off.

Its not like the original plan was for Sharpe to come in midseason and play, but once he got to UK they realized he wasn't good enough to even get minutes for a team with a banged up backcourt. If that was the case then ya I would say that would be some red flags. But no the plan from the start was for him not to play this year. Some UK fans bought the idea that Sharpe would be back next year. But the majority of people realized what was going on. Sharpe went there to get money and train for the draft.

[Ruzious]

That all sounds bad, but remember it's from an article written on January 8th. Hopefully a lot has changed since then.

Yes, and a month later on February 7, what article came out then? Was at an article about Sharpe dominating the SEC, dropping 30 points in a win over Alabama?

Nope, it was this:
https://www.si.com/college/2022/02/07/shaedon-sharpe-will-not-play-for-kentucky-this-season

Well yeah, we know he didn't play, but that article says nothing about his progress or lack thereof.

[Hal14]

That all sounds bad, but remember it's from an article written on January 8th. Hopefully a lot has changed since then.

Yes, and a month later on February 7, what article came out then? Was at an article about Sharpe dominating the SEC, dropping 30 points in a win over Alabama?

Nope, it was this:
https://www.si.com/college/2022/02/07/shaedon-sharpe-will-not-play-for-kentucky-this-season

Well yeah, we know he didn't play, but that article says nothing about his progress or lack thereof.

Well that article doesn't exactly inspire confidence, does it?

January 8 article = Cal says "he's out of shape, not showing enough fight, not anywhere close to being able to play in a game, not playing at a fast enough speed"

February 7 article = sharpe will not play this season

I'm putting 2 and 2 together here. Based on how he performed in practice, they decided to shut him down on February 7. if all you do is read the 2 articles i posted, you would think that if sharpe was in good shape, playing at a fast enough speed, showing enough fight in practice that he would have possibly played..

[Hal14]

That all sounds bad, but remember it's from an article written on January 8th. Hopefully a lot has changed since then.

Yes, and a month later on February 7, what article came out then? Was at an article about Sharpe dominating the SEC, dropping 30 points in a win over Alabama?

Nope, it was this:
https://www.si.com/college/2022/02/07/shaedon-sharpe-will-not-play-for-kentucky-this-season

Okay but that was literally the plan from the time Sharpe signed on to go to UK. Again Sharpe went to UK to get paid to train at a world class facility. Everything else is just Cal and company spinning things so UK fans dont get pissed off.

Its not like the original plan was for Sharpe to come in midseason and play, but once he got to UK they realized he wasn't good enough to even get minutes for a team with a banged up backcourt. If that was the case then ya I would say that would be some red flags. But no the plan from the start was for him not to play this year. Some UK fans bought the idea that Sharpe would be back next year. But the majority of people realized what was going on. Sharpe went there to get money and train for the draft.

Maybe that was the plan initially. But 2 things changed later on...

1) He was ruled eligible to play for kentucky this season on November 9: https://dknation.draftkings.com/2021/11/9/22772361/shaedon-sharpe-kentucky-early-enrollee-january-eligibility-ncaa-class-of-22-nba-draft-status-bbn

2) It's announced that Sharpe is eligible for 2022 NBA Draft on january 20, 2022

It was November 9 when it was announced Sharpe would be eligible to play for kentucky in january. Calipari didn't just flat out say "he's not playing this season" on november 9. He left the door open. He said "i don't think he's gonna play - I don't think he'll be in good enough shape to play". Again, this was on November 9. If Sharpe showed up in kentucky in better shape and if he looked beter in those first few practices, who knows, maybe he would have played and made his debut in that first vanderbilt game. We'll never know..

[Ruzious]

Yes, and a month later on February 7, what article came out then? Was at an article about Sharpe dominating the SEC, dropping 30 points in a win over Alabama?

Nope, it was this:
https://www.si.com/college/2022/02/07/shaedon-sharpe-will-not-play-for-kentucky-this-season

Well yeah, we know he didn't play, but that article says nothing about his progress or lack thereof.

Well that article doesn't exactly inspire confidence, does it?

January 8 article = Cal says "he's out of shape, not showing enough fight, not anywhere close to being able to play in a game, not playing at a fast enough speed"

February 7 article = sharpe will not play this season

I'm putting 2 and 2 together here. Based on how he performed in practice, they decided to shut him down on February 7. if all you do is read the 2 articles i posted, you would think that if sharpe was in good shape, playing at a fast enough speed, showing enough fight in practice that he would have possibly played..

Again... the second article didn't say anything we already knew. I completely agree with you on the first article.

[Duke4life831]

Yes, and a month later on February 7, what article came out then? Was at an article about Sharpe dominating the SEC, dropping 30 points in a win over Alabama?

Nope, it was this:
https://www.si.com/college/2022/02/07/shaedon-sharpe-will-not-play-for-kentucky-this-season

Okay but that was literally the plan from the time Sharpe signed on to go to UK. Again Sharpe went to UK to get paid to train at a world class facility. Everything else is just Cal and company spinning things so UK fans dont get pissed off.

Its not like the original plan was for Sharpe to come in midseason and play, but once he got to UK they realized he wasn't good enough to even get minutes for a team with a banged up backcourt. If that was the case then ya I would say that would be some red flags. But no the plan from the start was for him not to play this year. Some UK fans bought the idea that Sharpe would be back next year. But the majority of people realized what was going on. Sharpe went there to get money and train for the draft.

Maybe that was the plan initially. But 2 things changed later on...

1) He was ruled eligible to play for kentucky this season on November 9: https://dknation.draftkings.com/2021/11/9/22772361/shaedon-sharpe-kentucky-early-enrollee-january-eligibility-ncaa-class-of-22-nba-draft-status-bbn

2) It's announced that Sharpe is eligible for 2022 NBA Draft on january 20, 2022

It was November 9 when it was announced Sharpe would be eligible to play for kentucky in january. Calipari didn't just flat out say "he's not playing this season" on november 9. He left the door open. He said "i don't think he's gonna play - I don't think he'll be in good enough shape to play". Again, this was on November 9. If Sharpe showed up in kentucky in better shape and if he looked beter in those first few practices, who knows, maybe he would have played and made his debut in that first vanderbilt game. We'll never know..

Okay but what I'm saying is Sharpe never intended on playing for UK. The only reason he went to UK was to cash in on a ton of money and to train at a world class training facility to get ready for the draft.

The whole "he's not in good enough shape" is the definition of coach speach. It's to downplay any hope from the fanbase that he might end up playing. And it's nothing negative that would hurt Sharpe drafts position because no one expects a freshman to be able to step in the middle of a season and after one practice he in game shape. It's the same when a player returns after a long injury, what do we always hear? We're going to rev him up slowly in practice over the next couple weeks to get him in game shape.

Again the only reason Sharpe was at UK was to collect big NIL dollars and train in a world class facility to get ready for the draft. He never intended on playing and definitely didn't intend on returning next year like they continually have reported for months. That's just spin. Sharpe was at UK for the cash, that's the end of it. No need to look deeper into it.

[Big J]

Yea, I don't think that Cal really thought Sharpe was coming back after finding out he was eligible for the 2022 draft. Probably just saw he didn't look great in practice and didn't want an Emoni Bates type showing from him and have his draft stock slip. NBA teams love gambling on the unknown dudes so better for him to just sit out.

[clyde21]

Yea, I don't think that Cal really thought Sharpe was coming back after finding out he was eligible for the 2022 draft. Probably just saw he didn't look great in practice and didn't want an Emoni Bates type showing from him and have his draft stock slip. NBA teams love gambling on the unknown dudes so better for him to just sit out.

there u go on that practice nonsense again

[Duke4life831]

I like how people are focusing on quotes about Sharpe from his first day of practice. Why aren't people posting the quotes from later practices where they were saying the players were practically begging Cal to play him because of how great he looked in practice. Or quotes from Cal saying he's in awe of some of the things he sees from him during practice?

Again this was a mutual agreement from the beginning from both Cal and Sharpe, there was never going to be a situation where Sharpe played.

For Sharpe:
Got big endorsement deals (for instance his Porsche endorsement)
Got to train in a world class training facility
Kept his name in the media

For Cal:
Got the buzz of landing the #1 recruit.
Gets to include Sharpe in future pitches of the number of former UK players that got drafted top 10

Everything else is just media spin of Cal trying not to get his fanbase to completely turn on him. Cal is much more of a salesman than a coach.

[Big J]

Yea, I don't think that Cal really thought Sharpe was coming back after finding out he was eligible for the 2022 draft. Probably just saw he didn't look great in practice and didn't want an Emoni Bates type showing from him and have his draft stock slip. NBA teams love gambling on the unknown dudes so better for him to just sit out.

there u go on that practice nonsense again

Ok A.I.

[clyde21]

I like how people are focusing on quotes about Sharpe from his first day of practice. Why aren't people posting the quotes from later practices where they were saying the players were practically begging Cal to play him because of how great he looked in practice. Or quotes from Cal saying he's in awe of some of the things he sees from him during practice?

Again this was a mutual agreement from the beginning from both Cal and Sharpe, there was never going to be a situation where Sharpe played.

For Sharpe:
Got big endorsement deals (for instance his Porsche endorsement)
Got to train in a world class training facility
Kept his name in the media

For Cal:
Got the buzz of landing the #1 recruit.
Gets to include Sharpe in future pitches of the number of former UK players that got drafted top 10

Everything else is just media spin of Cal trying not to get his fanbase to completely turn on him. Cal is much more of a salesman than a coach.

i mean, even so, the idea that Cal isn't playing a top recruit a single minute because he 'hasn't looked great in practice' is just brutally laughable...complete kneeslapper

[Duke4life831]

I like how people are focusing on quotes about Sharpe from his first day of practice. Why aren't people posting the quotes from later practices where they were saying the players were practically begging Cal to play him because of how great he looked in practice. Or quotes from Cal saying he's in awe of some of the things he sees from him during practice?

Again this was a mutual agreement from the beginning from both Cal and Sharpe, there was never going to be a situation where Sharpe played.

For Sharpe:
Got big endorsement deals (for instance his Porsche endorsement)
Got to train in a world class training facility
Kept his name in the media

For Cal:
Got the buzz of landing the #1 recruit.
Gets to include Sharpe in future pitches of the number of former UK players that got drafted top 10

Everything else is just media spin of Cal trying not to get his fanbase to completely turn on him. Cal is much more of a salesman than a coach.

i mean, even so, the idea that Cal isn't playing a top recruit a single minute because he 'hasn't looked great in practice' is just brutally laughable...complete kneeslapper

Yup. Even guys that were flat out horrible like a Cliff Alexander back in the day for Kansas. He still got minutes. There was a stretch where TyTy was hurt. There is no way that Sharpe is so bad that he still couldn't get minutes during that time, not a single minute.

[clyde21]

I like how people are focusing on quotes about Sharpe from his first day of practice. Why aren't people posting the quotes from later practices where they were saying the players were practically begging Cal to play him because of how great he looked in practice. Or quotes from Cal saying he's in awe of some of the things he sees from him during practice?

Again this was a mutual agreement from the beginning from both Cal and Sharpe, there was never going to be a situation where Sharpe played.

For Sharpe:
Got big endorsement deals (for instance his Porsche endorsement)
Got to train in a world class training facility
Kept his name in the media

For Cal:
Got the buzz of landing the #1 recruit.
Gets to include Sharpe in future pitches of the number of former UK players that got drafted top 10

Everything else is just media spin of Cal trying not to get his fanbase to completely turn on him. Cal is much more of a salesman than a coach.

i mean, even so, the idea that Cal isn't playing a top recruit a single minute because he 'hasn't looked great in practice' is just brutally laughable...complete kneeslapper

Yup. Even guys that were flat out horrible like a Cliff Alexander back in the day for Kansas. He still got minutes. There was a stretch where TyTy was hurt. There is no way that Sharpe is so bad that he still couldn't get minutes during that time, not a single minute.

or in garbage time...a #1 overall recruit

[clyde21]

that's definitely a good way to guarantee Kentucky never gets another top recruit again, maybe that's the plan tell us more

[Goldbum]

Can he play the 3 effectively? What I really mean is can he switch up and down 1 position defensively and rebound like a SF...

[Roddy B for 3]

Can he play the 3 effectively? What I really mean is can he switch up and down 1 position defensively and rebound like a SF...

No one has seen him since high school. He definitely has the physical tools to do these things. He can fly, and he is built very sturdy. His YouTube videos of his high school play remind me of T-mac. Just easy, smooth, freak show, athletisism.

His interviews make me trust his personality of wanting to be a baller rather than a celebrity. He seems down to earth and mature. If he came out fresh fro high school back during the Kobe, KG, McGrady, Rashad Lewis, Jr Smith, Tyson Chandler days I think he would've been an easy top 10 pick. Easy top 10 generally equates to potential top 5 or top 3 type. In this week draft he might be #2 for me (after Jabari)

I think Sharpe will even have some of that Dwade type of rimprotection form the SG spot stuff. Just freaky athlet.

[Duke4life831]

Calling it now.

Since Sharpe has now declared for the draft but is maintaining his eligibility. This is what's going to happen.

No doubt he stays in the draft, I don't think anyone doubts that at this point. But this is how Cal is going to sell it. This will be Cal's statement.

"He was planning on returning next year and wanted to go through the draft process to learn what he needed to work on. But while going through the draft process he was told about how high he could go. He really wanted to play for UK next year, but both his family and I agreed he shouldn't pass up this opportunity to fulfill his dream of playing in the NBA. It's been an honor just to have him be apart of big blue nation and from here on out he will have big blue nation supporting him!"

Calling it right now, that will be almost word for word what Cal will say. All with the hope that some UK fans will buy it and not realize this was the plan for the beginning haha.

[clyde21]

Calling it now.

Since Sharpe has now declared for the draft but is maintaining his eligibility. This is what's going to happen.

No doubt he stays in the draft, I don't think anyone doubts that at this point. But this is how Cal is going to sell it. This will be Cal's statement.

"He was planning on returning next year and wanted to go through the draft process to learn what he needed to with on. But while going through the draft process he was told about how high he could go. He really wanted to play for UK next year, but both his family and I agreed he shouldn't pass up this opportunity to fulfill his dream of playing in the NBA. It's been an honor just to have him be apart of big blue nation and from here on out he will have big blue nation supporting him!"

Calling it right now, that will be almost word for word what Cal will say. All with the hope that some UK fans will buy it and not realize this was the plan for the beginning haha.

they should just stop gaslighting and tell people what it is. we all know what it is.

[Duke4life831]

Calling it now.

Since Sharpe has now declared for the draft but is maintaining his eligibility. This is what's going to happen.

No doubt he stays in the draft, I don't think anyone doubts that at this point. But this is how Cal is going to sell it. This will be Cal's statement.

"He was planning on returning next year and wanted to go through the draft process to learn what he needed to with on. But while going through the draft process he was told about how high he could go. He really wanted to play for UK next year, but both his family and I agreed he shouldn't pass up this opportunity to fulfill his dream of playing in the NBA. It's been an honor just to have him be apart of big blue nation and from here on out he will have big blue nation supporting him!"

Calling it right now, that will be almost word for word what Cal will say. All with the hope that some UK fans will buy it and not realize this was the plan for the beginning haha.

they should just stop gaslighting and tell people what it is. we all know what it is.

Agreed 100%.

I think only people with limited knowledge on college ball or die hard UK fans actually was buying this story of him returning to play next year.

[Hal14]

Calling it now.

Since Sharpe has now declared for the draft but is maintaining his eligibility. This is what's going to happen.

No doubt he stays in the draft, I don't think anyone doubts that at this point. But this is how Cal is going to sell it. This will be Cal's statement.

"He was planning on returning next year and wanted to go through the draft process to learn what he needed to work on. But while going through the draft process he was told about how high he could go. He really wanted to play for UK next year, but both his family and I agreed he shouldn't pass up this opportunity to fulfill his dream of playing in the NBA. It's been an honor just to have him be apart of big blue nation and from here on out he will have big blue nation supporting him!"

Calling it right now, that will be almost word for word what Cal will say. All with the hope that some UK fans will buy it and not realize this was the plan for the beginning haha.

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