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Post#121 » by MemphisX » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:44 am

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His best comp Frank Ntilikina was in the lotto, so yea, he could easy.


Terry is 3" taller and seems much twitcher athletically.

I think he is 100% a FR talent. Seems like the type of low usage, smart, do-it-all type combo guard that most teams at the end of R1 will be looking for.

Every team from 25-29 should be looking at him (BRK, MIL, GSW, MIA, MEM).


So like Kyle Anderson then?


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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#122 » by azcatz11 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:17 am

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Terry is 3" taller and seems much twitcher athletically.

I think he is 100% a FR talent. Seems like the type of low usage, smart, do-it-all type combo guard that most teams at the end of R1 will be looking for.

Every team from 25-29 should be looking at him (BRK, MIL, GSW, MIA, MEM).


So like Kyle Anderson then?


The only time Kyle Anderson has been described as twitchy is after drinking too much coffee.

I think Delon Wright with a motor is a good comp. Wright has a lot of similarities stylistically and in terms of frame, but he is asleep 75% of the time.


Rondae Hollis-Jefferson is who he reminds me of...but RHJ was a better prospect because he was a better scorer. But Terry has an edge that RHJ never had and is super competitive so that could be the difference.

Terry greatly improved through-out the season also. He literally went from having 0 offensive game to being somewhat of a factor on offense especially with open 3's and put backs. You can't teach size though and he has ideal wing size at the next level
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#123 » by clyde21 » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:50 am

Terry is kinda like a less athletic, less wiry Iguodala
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Post#124 » by The Moose » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:57 am

Terry fits a very useful archetype, that being a young 6'7 wing who can pass, has a high bball iq and plays defense.
This archetype pretty rarely is a bust, 20%+ AST rate, 2%+ steal rate in the NCAA as an underclassman.
Looking at freshman/sophomores who have been drafted that met that criteria shows a very solid but short list of useful players.

Ben Simmons, Cade, Paul George, Kyle Anderson, Royce White, Khris Middleton, Patrick McCaw, Scottie barnes, Daniel Hamilton, Draymond Green is the entire list.

I watched hardly any Arizona games so I see I'm very late to the party here lol, but based off his stats + physicals (age/height/wingspan) alone, he definitely seems like a first round talent
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Post#125 » by jezzerinho » Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:31 am

The one real criticism i have of Mathurin - that he tends to shrink when he's been needed most in big games/losses - is maybe Dale Terry's biggest plus. The kid really stands up to be counted and fights to the end in games with the limited minutes he has. He's got that competitive edge.

I can't see him failing and there's a good chance he turns into a really good player. I'm rooting for him to succeed, that's for sure. He's very likeable.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#126 » by The Moose » Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:37 am

The Moose wrote:Terry fits a very useful archetype, that being a young 6'7 wing who can pass, has a high bball iq and plays defense.
This archetype pretty rarely is a bust, 20%+ AST rate, 2%+ steal rate in the NCAA as an underclassman.
Looking at freshman/sophomores who have been drafted that met that criteria shows a very solid but short list of useful players.

Ben Simmons, Cade, Paul George, Kyle Anderson, Royce White, Khris Middleton, Patrick McCaw, Scottie barnes, Daniel Hamilton, Draymond Green is the entire list.

I watched hardly any Arizona games so I see I'm very late to the party here lol, but based off his stats + physicals (age/height/wingspan) alone, he definitely seems like a first round talent


I should also add (since he was being discussed earlier), Dyson Daniels actually meets all these statistical standards as well, and is producing them at the G-League level.
Though he might be more of a guard atm, he seems like he could slide around 1-3, and has legit wing size
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Post#127 » by Nuntius » Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:00 am

The Moose wrote:
The Moose wrote:Terry fits a very useful archetype, that being a young 6'7 wing who can pass, has a high bball iq and plays defense.
This archetype pretty rarely is a bust, 20%+ AST rate, 2%+ steal rate in the NCAA as an underclassman.
Looking at freshman/sophomores who have been drafted that met that criteria shows a very solid but short list of useful players.

Ben Simmons, Cade, Paul George, Kyle Anderson, Royce White, Khris Middleton, Patrick McCaw, Scottie barnes, Daniel Hamilton, Draymond Green is the entire list.

I watched hardly any Arizona games so I see I'm very late to the party here lol, but based off his stats + physicals (age/height/wingspan) alone, he definitely seems like a first round talent


I should also add (since he was being discussed earlier), Dyson Daniels actually meets all these statistical standards as well, and is producing them at the G-League level.
Though he might be more of a guard atm, he seems like he could slide around 1-3, and has legit wing size


Daniels is pretty intriguing. I hope he is there for the Cavs pick, if my Pacers get it this year.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#128 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:29 pm

The Moose wrote:
The Moose wrote:Terry fits a very useful archetype, that being a young 6'7 wing who can pass, has a high bball iq and plays defense.
This archetype pretty rarely is a bust, 20%+ AST rate, 2%+ steal rate in the NCAA as an underclassman.
Looking at freshman/sophomores who have been drafted that met that criteria shows a very solid but short list of useful players.

Ben Simmons, Cade, Paul George, Kyle Anderson, Royce White, Khris Middleton, Patrick McCaw, Scottie barnes, Daniel Hamilton, Draymond Green is the entire list.

I watched hardly any Arizona games so I see I'm very late to the party here lol, but based off his stats + physicals (age/height/wingspan) alone, he definitely seems like a first round talent


I should also add (since he was being discussed earlier), Dyson Daniels actually meets all these statistical standards as well, and is producing them at the G-League level.
Though he might be more of a guard atm, he seems like he could slide around 1-3, and has legit wing size


I actually think Dyson is more of a SF than Terry is, albeit both may be better at SG.

I think Dyson has the frame to add more mass over Terry.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#129 » by Ruzious » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:24 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
The Moose wrote:
The Moose wrote:Terry fits a very useful archetype, that being a young 6'7 wing who can pass, has a high bball iq and plays defense.
This archetype pretty rarely is a bust, 20%+ AST rate, 2%+ steal rate in the NCAA as an underclassman.
Looking at freshman/sophomores who have been drafted that met that criteria shows a very solid but short list of useful players.

Ben Simmons, Cade, Paul George, Kyle Anderson, Royce White, Khris Middleton, Patrick McCaw, Scottie barnes, Daniel Hamilton, Draymond Green is the entire list.

I watched hardly any Arizona games so I see I'm very late to the party here lol, but based off his stats + physicals (age/height/wingspan) alone, he definitely seems like a first round talent


I should also add (since he was being discussed earlier), Dyson Daniels actually meets all these statistical standards as well, and is producing them at the G-League level.
Though he might be more of a guard atm, he seems like he could slide around 1-3, and has legit wing size


I actually think Dyson is more of a SF than Terry is, albeit both may be better at SG.

I think Dyson has the frame to add more mass over Terry.

I see Daniels as more of a combo guard type in the NBA. It seemed like he improved quite a bit all-around during the season. I'd be surprised if he isn't a lotto pick.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#130 » by Big J » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:34 pm

Beauchamp could easily be a Thybull with a better handle. His body & athleticism is elite.
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Post#131 » by The Moose » Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:00 pm

Franz Wagner is another name recently that fits the young tall/long wing with +passing, +defense +bball iq archetype, he fell a marginally short of the 20%AST rate, but guys like that can really fit with any team and provide great value.

In this class I would be thinking Terry, Daniels and potentially even someone like Wendell Moore (would like him a lot more if he was 2" taller) are these types of guys that could provide great value for their pick position.
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Post#132 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:56 pm

The Moose wrote:Franz Wagner is another name recently that fits the young tall/long wing with +passing, +defense +bball iq archetype, he fell a marginally short of the 20%AST rate, but guys like that can really fit with any team and provide great value.

In this class I would be thinking Terry, Daniels and potentially even someone like Wendell Moore (would like him a lot more if he was 2" taller) are these types of guys that could provide great value for their pick position.


Moore is a guy that has a style that fits basically any team, but I think he is more of a SG. If he was 6'8 he probably would go in the 10-14 range IMO. Right now I think he is more late teens'.
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Post#133 » by JRoy » Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:54 pm

I really don’t like Moore as a pro. He looks pretty mediocre at everything. Fair athlete though.
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Post#134 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:08 pm

I think Moore is a Josh Hart level talent, albeit not sure he is as tough.
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Post#135 » by BostonCouchGM » Sat Apr 2, 2022 2:17 am

Jaylin Williams from Arkansas will be a damn good starting 5 in the NBA. He's moved up to the mid-late teens for me. Elite BBIQ, passing and plays both ends at a legit 6'10" 240 lbs. He reminds me of Al Horford.
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Post#136 » by SelfishPlayer » Sat Apr 2, 2022 2:43 am

There are just so many interesting good sized perimeter players in the draft. Guys like Wendell Moore, Dalen Terry, Jalen Williams, and Kendall Brown all have a great feel for the game. They can really get up and down and pass the ball.
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Post#137 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Apr 2, 2022 6:02 am

Im very curious to see how the Duke guys measure out. Im curious if all of them are exaggerated by an inch or two, or if they're pretty spot on.

Is Paolo a legit 6'10
Is AJ a legit 6'6-6'7
Is Moore a legit 6'5

Because if Moore is a legit 6'5, then ya I think he is a lock for the 1st round. You take him with the idea of him being this super versatile guard off your bench that can defend 1-3 and put the ball down a little and shoot a little. But if he ends up being only say 6'3, well that kind of hurts the chances of him being a guy that can play 1-3 and really limits him to a combo guard kind of role.
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Post#138 » by MemphisX » Sat Apr 2, 2022 6:10 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Im very curious to see how the Duke guys measure out. Im curious if all of them are exaggerated by an inch or two, or if they're pretty spot on.

Is Paolo a legit 6'10
Is AJ a legit 6'6-6'7
Is Moore a legit 6'5

Because if Moore is a legit 6'5, then ya I think he is a lock for the 1st round. You take him with the idea of him being this super versatile guard off your bench that can defend 1-3 and put the ball down a little and shoot a little. But if he ends up being only say 6'3, well that kind of hurts the chances of him being a guy that can play 1-3 and really limits him to a combo guard kind of role.


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Among the younger players among the top-100 prospects in the class of 2019, Wendell Moore won't turn 16 until September, but standing 6'4.5 with a 6'11 wingspan and a 200 pound frame, the Cox Mill (NC) standout has one of the more mature frames among wings at the prep level. He isn't overly tall for a small forward, but his age leaves room for optimism in that regard and the 10 pounds he shed since winter is a positive sign as he continues to improve his already chiseled frame. He made the initial cut and is now among the 16 players competing for the final 12 spots. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/usa-basketball-u16-training-camp-measurements-released-5979/ ©DraftExpress
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Part II 

Post#139 » by clyde21 » Sat Apr 2, 2022 7:04 am

Paolo 6-8.5 without shoes
AJ 6-4.5 without shoes
Moore 6-4.5 without shoes

is my prediciton
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Post#140 » by pad300 » Sat Apr 2, 2022 8:37 pm

clyde21 wrote:...
AJ 6-4.5 without shoes
Moore 6-4.5 without shoes
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You think AJ and Moore are the same height? I don't get that from the eye test...

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