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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#121 » by clyde21 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:54 pm

it's just hard to tell if Reed is not shooting much is because he's incapable of creating for himself or just because there were a lot of mouths to feed on Kentucky...Dilly has zero issues creating his own shots and he himself only took 4.5 3s a game and only got to the line 3 times a game, Wagner was in the same boat with 3.3 3s per game and 2.2 FTAs.

even senior year Reeves shot under 6 3s a game and only got the line 3 times a game. so a likely scenario is that all of these guys just ended up suppressing each other's production which is why it's mindboggling all these dudes went to the same school which many of us brought up here.

i don't think Reed has elite on ball juice by any stretch but there is a scenario in which raw volume numbers would've been higher on most other college teams where he didn't have to share all this usage with 3 other guards in the same type of role.

how high are you willing to make that bet? for me 4th overall is the highest I'd go, but don't have issues if someone wants to make that bet in the top 3 especially in a flat class like this.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#122 » by azcatz11 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:57 pm

clyde21 wrote:it's just hard to tell if Reed is not shooting much is because he's incapable of creating for himself or just because there were a lot of mouths to feed on Kentucky...Dilly has zero issues creating his own shots and he himself only took 4.5 3s a game and only got to the line 3 times a game, Wagner was in the same boat with 3.3 3s per game and 2.2 FTAs.

even senior year Reeves shot under 6 3s a game and only got the line 3 times a game. so a likely scenario is that all of these guys just ended up suppressing each other's production which is why it's mindboggling all these dudes went to the same school which many of us brought up here.

i don't think Reed has elite on ball juice by any stretch but there is a scenario in which raw volume numbers would've been higher on most other college teams where he didn't have to share all this usage with 3 other guards in the same type of role.

how high are you willing to make that bet? for me 4th overall is the highest I'd go, but don't have issues if someone wants to make that bet in the top 3 especially in a flat class like this.


What are the odds Reed is going to be better than Trae Young?
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#123 » by clyde21 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:58 pm

one of these guys will be really good in the NBA, either Dilly, Reed or Wagner next year. make your bets.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#124 » by SeattleJazzFan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:27 pm

clyde21 wrote:one of these guys will be really good in the NBA, either Dilly, Reed or Wagner next year. make your bets.


Dillingham.

Wagner is going to be very interesting to watch next season, but i wouldn't be shocked if he is never drafted. just never at any point last season looked like a potential nba player.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#125 » by Colbinii » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:45 pm

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clyde21 wrote:it's just hard to tell if Reed is not shooting much is because he's incapable of creating for himself or just because there were a lot of mouths to feed on Kentucky...Dilly has zero issues creating his own shots and he himself only took 4.5 3s a game and only got to the line 3 times a game, Wagner was in the same boat with 3.3 3s per game and 2.2 FTAs.

even senior year Reeves shot under 6 3s a game and only got the line 3 times a game. so a likely scenario is that all of these guys just ended up suppressing each other's production which is why it's mindboggling all these dudes went to the same school which many of us brought up here.

i don't think Reed has elite on ball juice by any stretch but there is a scenario in which raw volume numbers would've been higher on most other college teams where he didn't have to share all this usage with 3 other guards in the same type of role.

how high are you willing to make that bet? for me 4th overall is the highest I'd go, but don't have issues if someone wants to make that bet in the top 3 especially in a flat class like this.


What are the odds Reed is going to be better than Trae Young?


Super low. I don't think the odds of anyone in this draft being an All-NBA player is remotely close to realistic.

Trae Young is also a weird comp. Trae is like a super-duper passer who is a high-volume passer and scorer but mediocre 3P shooter.

Reed is a glue-piece who has outlier shooting potential and shot making ability.

Reed is like an undersized Manu Ginobili.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#126 » by The-Power » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:00 pm

clyde21 wrote:it's just hard to tell if Reed is not shooting much is because he's incapable of creating for himself or just because there were a lot of mouths to feed on Kentucky...

That's fair and to be honest it's probably a mix of both. I don't think he has it in him to bomb 3s like Steph but I also see no reason why he can't increase his volume by just being more aggressive.

Also, Wagner remained in the draft? Completely forgot about him. He was pretty underwhelming in terms of production at Kentucky but I'd still use a SRP on him. Maybe even one in the 30s.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#127 » by clyde21 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:11 pm

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clyde21 wrote:it's just hard to tell if Reed is not shooting much is because he's incapable of creating for himself or just because there were a lot of mouths to feed on Kentucky...

That's fair and to be honest it's probably a mix of both. I don't think he has it in him to bomb 3s like Steph but I also see no reason why he can't increase his volume by just being more aggressive.

Also, Wagner remained in the draft? Completely forgot about him. He was pretty underwhelming in terms of production at Kentucky but I'd still use a SRP on him. Maybe even one in the 30s.


nah Wagner is going to Arkansas, just saying the one of these guards was probably being suppressed by the other two, and think at least one of the 3 will be a lot better in the NBA than they were in college.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#128 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:58 pm

If the Spurs are feeling froggy they should approach Atlanta about the 1 for 8 and ATL’s ‘26 returned, maybe the 4 if necessary, and take Reed.

He’s not going to be there at 4 and he’s like the picture perfect fit with Wemby.

Atlanta probably can’t trade Trae if they wanted right now and should be improved, so let them keep the ‘25(which San An would probably prefer to hold anyway).
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#129 » by CptCrunch » Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:51 am

I've seen enough Isiah is better than Curry at shooting
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#130 » by clyde21 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:27 am

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unrelated note: anybody with Bronny's talent level would still be playing at USC...just wild that he's getting this many mins and coverage. embarrassing for the league and it's not doing Bronny any favors.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#131 » by The Moose » Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:10 am

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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#132 » by bucknut » Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:16 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:If the Spurs are feeling froggy they should approach Atlanta about the 1 for 8 and ATL’s ‘26 returned, maybe the 4 if necessary, and take Reed.

He’s not going to be there at 4 and he’s like the picture perfect fit with Wemby.

Atlanta probably can’t trade Trae if they wanted right now and should be improved, so let them keep the ‘25(which San An would probably prefer to hold anyway).


Spurs could of gotten durisic too. That pairing would of been epic. Really love watching those 2 play more then any other players
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#133 » by K_chile22 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 3:12 pm

Yeah he's looking like the next Kentucky guard that has more to him than Cal let him show. That possession where he put the defender in jail for a bit, retreat dribbled then hit him with a lightning quick cross over to rise up for a middy was impressive
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#134 » by facothomas22 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:45 pm

Too early to tell, but based on last night, he looks like a future all star. The Hawks and Wizards could end up regretting passing up on this kid.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#135 » by babyjax13 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:52 pm

This draft definitely has a potential to teach us about advanced metrics as indicators of NBA success lol. I had Reed 6th, behind such greats as Kyshawn George, Tyler Smith, and Matas Buzelis. Had Edey, 16th? I think. We will see what happens when real NBA basketball starts, woupd love this draft to have some guys that seriously outperform expectations.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#136 » by atlantabbq99 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 7:12 am

I'm very happy with the Hawks taking Zac #1 but Reed looks legit.

Before the draft I said he looked like Bruson 2.0 and he showed it in his first SL game.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#137 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:44 pm

He’s too good a shooter not to be successful.

Like worst case you’re probably looking at some form of D’Angelo Russell, but Russell’s first step is like Anthony Morrow in snow shoes. Sheppard doesn’t have the greatest first step, but it’s serviceable and his change of direction/pace is quite good. Give him a few seasons to tighten up his handle, get NBA man strength and acclimate to the speed of the game and he’s going to beast.
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#138 » by King Ken » Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:11 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:If the Spurs are feeling froggy they should approach Atlanta about the 1 for 8 and ATL’s ‘26 returned, maybe the 4 if necessary, and take Reed.

He’s not going to be there at 4 and he’s like the picture perfect fit with Wemby.

Atlanta probably can’t trade Trae if they wanted right now and should be improved, so let them keep the ‘25(which San An would probably prefer to hold anyway).

That would be terrible for the Hawks
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#139 » by clyde21 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:20 pm

i love how we're ONE game into SL Vegas and people are already talking about who won/lost the draft

jfc lmao
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Re: Isiah Reed Sheppard, #1 pick for 2024 

Post#140 » by Colbinii » Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:32 pm

clyde21 wrote:i love how we're ONE game into SL Vegas and people are already talking about who won/lost the draft

jfc lmao


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